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Secularism Always Leads to a Hopeless Dead End

Faith and Freedom with Liberty Counsel’s Mat Staver and Holly meade, and Founder Matt Barber… An 11-minute weekday radio program discussing hot topics in the area of religious liberty, the sanctity of human life and the family.

‘Secularism always leads to a hopeless dead end.’ That’s the title of an article written by the Benham brothers and it’s about a story that took place in a McDonald’s. It’s a shocking story of a woman who actually walks into the restroom several times, causing some of her co-workers to notice, and then she does something that is absolutely unthinkable. We’re going to be talking about it on Faith and Freedom.

I’m Mat Staver, Founder and Chairman of Liberty Counsel, joining me is the Founder of, Matt Barber, and Holly Meade, the Director of Communications for Liberty Counsel.

Mat Staver: Matt, this case took place just a few weeks ago. And it has the venue of a McDonald’s restaurant, in which this person walks into the restroom several times, complaining of stomach pains, basically raises the attention of some of the co-workers. And at some point one of the co-workers goes in. They see blood on the floor and then they peer over the restroom stall, and here’s this woman, 25 year old individual who apparently visits this restroom multiple times, goes into the restroom. She’s actually got her hand on the back of her baby that she gave birth to trying to flush it down the toilet…



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