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Godlessness, Safety Nail Polish and ‘Rape Culture’

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By now you may have heard about the new nail polish, called Undercover Colors, developed by four young scientists at North Carolina State University.  It was designed to be used by women to detect whether or not certain “date rape” drugs are in their drinks.  The girl simply swirls her polished fingernail in the drink, and if the color of the polish changes, then it means someone has slipped her a mickey.  It sounds like a handy tool for our Godless, sex-obsessed, “modern” culture, right?  Well, not if we forget to factor in the lunacy of “political correctness.”

While doing yard work on Wednesday, I had Rush Limbaugh on my portable radio.  He mentioned this story and said that the feminazis are in an uproar over it.  In case you’re unfamiliar with Rush’s word, feminazi, that’s his term of endearment for men-hating, radical feminists.  He explained why they’re irked about the new nail polish (that’s not even on the market yet), which, as usual, is a lot of complaining about men and the terrible burdens women are expected to carry to hopefully avoid getting raped.  Naturally, Rush’s analysis of the silliness of the feminazi ire was spot-on.

Then on Thursday, I came across a Huffington Post column that may have been part of what inspired Rush’s monologue.  Written by Sophia Kerby, “What ‘Undercover Colors’ Gets All Wrong About Date Rape” is a typical feminist missive, misguidedly taking the nail polish’s developers to task.

She writes:

Thanks to four male college students from North Carolina State University, you may soon be able to add a new accessory to your outfit and tool in combating date rape: nail polish.

… While I applaud their efforts to prevent sexual assault among college students, after reading their product description, it’s pretty clear that these male students know little rape culture and even less about plausible solutions.

I read the product description, and it in no way broadcasts her assertions.  Of course, she simply must point out that the young scientists are “male college students,” as if the fact that they’re male automatically detracts from the credibility of their invention.  Then she goes off the rails when she claims,“… it’s pretty clear that these male students know little rape culture and even less about plausible solutions.”  Putting aside the obvious contradiction to reality here—that these guys clearly did recognize the need for such a product and then labored to create it—how many of us “know rape culture” or even want to?  How do you become knowledgeable of “rape culture”?  By “rape culture,” I assume she means the prevalence of rape, rather than a culture that embraces rape.  Is it not enough to study the statistics?  Is it not enough to be bombarded with countless media stories lamenting it, endless politicians denouncing it and numerous public service announcements promoting awareness of it?  It would seem to me that if these young men truly knew “little rape culture,” then it would not have occurred to them to develop this product.

To defend her assertions, Ms. Kerby points out that not all sexual assaults happen at bars but on college campuses, as well.  I would contend that almost none of them happen at bars, but at other locations after the bar.  She notes that alcohol is just part of the problem.  Alcoholic drinks are available everywhere, not just bars, and wherever a girl is, her nail polish is there with her.  As a criticism of the “male” developers, her argument is a dud.

So, what does Ms. Kerby consider “plausible solutions”?  She gives three main points:  stop blaming the victim, educate men on how not to rape, and hold colleges accountable for how they deal with sexual assaults on campus.

Why do you suppose that there might be a “blame the victim” mentality today?  Do women ever bear any responsibility for putting themselves in potentially dangerous places and situations, like drunken frat parties?  Do they bear no responsibility for the outrageous “fashions” they choose to wear nowadays, clothing that makes them look like prostitutes and porn “stars,” clothing that arguably feeds the “rape culture”?  Yes, we know that a man who sexually assaults a woman is always wrong, but why is it considered just fine for a woman to present herself in a hyper-sexual, sleazy way and then expect men to treat her with the dignity and honor she imagines she deserves?  The disconnect from reason is palpable.

To many on the Left, the answer to most problems is “education,” but what young man doesn’t already know that it’s wrong to sexually assault another person?  Who is unclear that “no” means “no”?  There again, can it be argued that a woman dressed like a strumpet, yet saying “no” to unwanted sexual advances, sends a mixed message?  Yes, I know it’s outrageous, but this is what our Godless culture has wrought.  There are a lot of bad people out there, and no amount of “education,” telling them it’s wrong (they already know this), will change their evil hearts.

Another favorite tactic of the Left is to hold the powers-that-be responsible for the protection and safety of the people.  Colleges can only do so much to protect their students from danger, but Ms. Kerby expects colleges to be held accountable and to enact policy changes that will better punish rapists.  For this to happen, a man must be convicted in a court of law to legally be considered a rapist.  What about false accusations?  What about accusations with no convictions?  Should a man be punished only on being accused of rape?  How far does Ms. Kerby believe colleges (whose main function is supposed to be schooling) should go in becoming anti-rape squads?  She seems to acknowledge the difficulty in this as she writes:

While such policy changes will put more of the burden on the perpetrator, such disciplinary hearings have led to wildly inappropriate questions for survivors and light punishments for perpetrators found guilty of assault, such as expulsion after graduation (who knew that was even a thing). Policy changes need to not only hold the perpetrators accountable, but the school’s handing [sic] of these hearings as well.

She concludes her column with this:

It’s pretty terrible that in 2014, that these kinds of products even need to exist, but the reality is that they do exist. Instead of funneling money into making gadgets that help prevent women from being raped, let’s talk about solutions to shifting rape culture where consent, on both sides, is seen as the norm.

Yes, it is indeed a shame that there is a “need” for a product like this nail polish, and for a morally diseased culture such as ours, there is nothing to criticize about these young scientists’ ingenious invention.  But, there will be no shifting of any rape culture by throwing money at more “rape culture awareness,” or telling young men that it’s wrong to rape, or holding colleges accountable, or not “blaming the victim.”  Our nation has turned its back on God.  We have kicked Him out of our schools and out of the public square.  We have raised several generations of Godless, self-centered, sex-obsessed kids, and the truth is that there can be no positive transformation of any sick culture without the saving power of the Spirit of God through Jesus Christ to change people’s hearts of stone into new hearts of flesh.

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  • tomd

    Ahh, apparently we’re starting the right-wing “let’s say stupid things about rape” contest.

    Gina here jumps on the usual “blame the victim” train, and quotes Limbaugh – the voice of sensitivity about women who probably cost the GOP more votes in 2012 than any ad campaign from the left.

    The way to stop rape is to get men to stop raping women. Period. It doesn’t matter what a woman is wearing, or whether she’s had a drink. Men need to act like responsible adults. Silly articles like this don’t help.

    • WXRGina

      Apparently you missed the message and meaning of the column. Naturally, you knee-jerked that I “blamed the victim,” which is not what I did. However, I did point out that women DO bear responsibility for how they conduct themselves and present themselves. In our juvenile, nanny-state-mentality nation today, personal responsibility is a rare commodity.

      The meaning of the column is that evil is in the hearts of people, and there will be no stopping bad men from raping until or unless the evil hearts are changed. And that’s not going to happen without a true transformation by God, period.

      • tomd

        No. When you state that “women bear some responsibility”, you are blaming the victim. Especially where you trot out the tired ” it’s what she was wearing” or “she had a drink” tropes. *None* of these give permission to men to have unwanted sex.

        And your “solutions”? Put God back in the schools – that’s a joke. Women were raped long before 1963. As for God, consider the rape issues we’re seeing in Christian colleges and abuse issues with big-name pastors. Religion will not cure the problem. And then you laugh at programs that try to raise men’s awareness about rape, when these actually show some concrete effects.

        But I agree with you that this is a matter of personal responsibility. It’s high time that men started to demonstrate that responsibility. Until that happens, rape will continue to be an issue, regardless of what women decide to wear.

        • JuvieRecord

          These rapists in colleges and churches would they be confirmed christians or closeted left wing homosexuals? Have you ever looked at a rapist under a microscope? You might be surprised when hold the rapist accountable for his actions rather than the organisation he conceals his evil intent with.

          • Cyn

            Are you pushing the myth, that was debunked years ago, that pedophiles are homosexual?

          • JuvieRecord

            I’m saying you can judge a coloured person by his skin colour, a christian by his compassion and a homosexual by his wife, kids and regular church attendance?! 99.9% of all homosexuals are closeted so you really have to look hard before you can remove the possibility from the equation.

          • MynameisBlarney

            So, you’re a racist, homophobe AND a misogynist?
            A triple threat I see.

          • JuvieRecord

            Wait, wait… You forgot one how about calling me a hitler loving fascist nazi, cos we all know how totally ‘NOT’ gay those people are, right?

          • Frito Pendejo

            I dunno what the heck he’s saying

          • MynameisBlarney

            He doesn’t either.

          • MynameisBlarney

            ” You might be surprised when hold the rapist accountable for his actions
            rather than the organisation he conceals his evil intent with.”

            No. Not when these organizations go out of their way to cover up the crimes.

          • JuvieRecord

            I have been to churches where 30% of the total congregation is closeted gay but the eldership alone is 50% gay. If you make it your business to conceal yourself in a church or educational institution wouldnt it make sense to control it through its administration or from the top? Again, lets then look at the admin of these organisations under the microscope, you might find homosexuals covering for their brothers or sisters in crime.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Homosexuals are not pedophiles.

          • helligusvart

            A good deal of them are. This is common knowledge.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Cites?

      • JPT

        Judges 5:30
        Judges 21:10-24
        Numbers 31:7-18
        Deuteronomy 20:10-14
        Deuteronomy 21:10-14
        Deuteronomy 22:23-24
        Deuteronomy 22:28-29
        2 Samuel 12:11-14
        Exodus 21:7-11
        Zechariah 14:1-2

      • http://www.facebook.com/emsternberg E. Mathieu Sternberg

        Miller says “What young man doesn’t know that it’s not okay to sexually assault someone?” Lots of them. Study after study, survey after survey, indicates that young men and women at university don’t have a clear idea of consent and honestly believe that a woman who drinks is consenting to sex. They don’t believe “no means no.”

        We educate our young men that they “deserve sex” and that women “want it” and that all the intervening “no” and “don’t” messages are just filler and delay.

        Miller also asks, “Can it be argued that a woman who dresses [however she likes] yet saying ‘no’ is sending a mixed message?” Miller can argue that all she wants, but that is rape culture in a nutshell. The answer is NO, she is NOT sending a mixed message. She is saying “no.” Period. End of sentence. And young men must be taught to respect women as much as they respect other men.

        • James Lopure

          Perfectly said. Miller is facilitating rape by even suggesting a rape victim bears responsibility for the sexual assault because her skirt was two inches too short or her blouse too tight.

          • Michex

            Don’t walk alone in Detroit at 3AM.

          • http://www.facebook.com/emsternberg E. Mathieu Sternberg

            Fine. I won’t. On the other hand, absolutely every crime is perpetrated by a criminal. A man who robs is a thief. A man who ignores a woman’s “no” is a rapist. Too many young men don’t understand that last part. They should. And we as a culture have to teach them that.

            Miller’s embrace of “No means ‘maybe’ if she’s dressed a certain way” is why evangelical churches are losing members. There is no respect for people.

        • acmavm

          ‘Men’ like Elliott Rogers.

        • helligusvart

          I agree with you that we teach young men to expect sex, and that is something we need to speak out strongly against. But that still doesn’t negate female responsibility. If I walk into a gay bar looking like a Chippendale man should I be surprised if some of the young gentlemen there think I’m easy?

          • WhoMe?

            If you walk into a gay bar looking like a Chippendale, should you then expect to be raped? I guess it would depend on your attire. … Yes, that’s as messed up as it sounds.

          • http://www.facebook.com/emsternberg E. Mathieu Sternberg

            Should you be surprised? No. Should you be shocked, horrified, and angry if some of them indulge in assault? Yes, and you should call the cops.

            Look, the only thing that makes this complicated is the excuses we make for young men who commit rape and sexual assault. “It’ll haunt him his whole life.” “He was young. It’s what boys do.” As if somehow this crime is acceptable because the victim was a woman and it was “just sex.”

            The accusation that “brutes” do it is also misguided. In the real world, in church groups, college campuses, and professional settings, casual misogyny is a recreational activity. Every “her clothes were asking for it,” every “I’m so drunk” “sorority mating call” joke, every rape joke, makes the rapist feel like he’s welcome among his fellow men, that his desires are acceptable.

          • helligusvart

            Your second and third paragraphs I agree 100% with. Your first paragraph is hopelessly naïve. No, I wouldn’t be shocked because I would expect it from them. That’s what they’re like.

          • http://www.facebook.com/emsternberg E. Mathieu Sternberg

            Think about what you’re saying. “Aw, c’mon, isn’t it okay if men are allowed to assault people they find sexually attractive? Just a little?”

            No.

      • Patrick

        Gina, remember when you wrote this part:

        “There again, can it be argued that a woman dressed like a strumpet, yet saying ‘no’ to unwanted sexual advances, sends a mixed message?”

        That’s an example of blaming the victim. Whether or not you realize it, you are essentially saying that even if a woman says ‘no’, what a woman wears can make that ‘no’ ambiguous. You’re weakening, if not completely contradicting your other point that all men fully understand that no means no by feeding the idea that the way a woman is dressed has any bearing on her ability to consent.

        I’m willing to meet you part-way and say that it’s potentially unwise for young women to dress in a way that will make men notice them. However, even if a woman dresses in a way to attract male attention, every man needs to know that it does not mean she dressed that way to attract THEIR attention.

        • Opposition Research

          A mere up-vote won’t suffice.

          Excellent comment!

        • Trey

          Your last sentence made no sense at all

          • MynameisBlarney

            And therein lies the problem.
            Just because you can’t understand it doesn’t mean it doesn’t make sense.

          • Frito Pendejo

            Seems clear enough to me…

          • Patrick

            A man sees a woman dressed a certain way, assumes that she’s “asking for it”, and rapes her. Even on the off-chance he is correct in his assumption, and the woman chose her outfit and went out that night with the intent of finding a guy to hook up with, that does not mean HE is the guy she wants to do it with.

            Of course, the notion that a woman’s outfit can in any way be interpreted as consent or even an unambigious signal that she wants to have sex is completely absurd. If you disagree, I have one question for you: if a straight man is wearing tight jeans or walking around shirtless, can a gay man take that as a signal that the straight man is “asking for it”?

          • Trey

            Some people are sick and twisted yes, but what about the all to real scenario where a woman goes out dressed a certain way gets trashed, hooks up with someone and then the next day regrets it and goes to claim “rape” because cause she either regretted it or more commonly got so drunk she doesnt remember the night before nor does she remember giving concent though she did

          • Patrick

            To be clear, we’re talking about a man meeting a woman while she’s drunk and sleeping with her, at best without getting to know her in the slightest, at worst legitimately taking advantage of her. That’s the “victim” in your scenerio, right? Someone who is not taking the time to find out if that’s what the woman really wants?
            If she’s that drunk, she’s legally incapable of consent, something the man would know if properly educated. Frankly, I don’t have a huge amount of sympathy for the man in your scenerio. If he’s hooking up with a stranger who is clearly intoxicated, he’s making a morally dubious decision at best.
            Your scenerio still leaves the major question of this article unadressed. What difference does it make how she’s dressed?

          • Trey

            It would depend soley on how drunk she was and how well she can hold her liqour. When I said she was “trashed” i left it open to interpritation. Consent is consent. Yes means yes and no means no. She is still responsible for her actions as is the guy. The most common scenario are the two that I laid out. Take them however you want but we have to stop living in a world where when a woman cries rape, we automatically believe her without any rape kits being done. The which hunts for potentially innocent men need to stop. Is the guy who takes home a woman to have sex with her after she gives consent despite drunk a douche bag? Absolutely. But not a criminal. Like it or not buddy, women can and do fake rape claims when they regret one night stands

          • Patrick

            I’m sure there are fake rape claims, although I’m equally sure the number of fake claims is dwarfed by the number of unreported rapes. The latter is so high largely due to the social stigma our culture places on female sexuality and due to people who insist that no discussion of rape is not complete without railing against all the false claims that are made against men. Never any mention of false claims being the exception, or even a minority of accusations. No, it has to perpetuate the narrative that this is such a common phenomenon that any specific case can be assumed to be a false report of a woman who was “asking for it”. Talking about it as if it needs to be part of the main discussion is just another form of slut-shaming.

      • Dawn1257

        “……..women DO bear responsibility for how they conduct themselves and present themselves.”

        Soooo, what’s your solution Gina? Burkas for all women? Walk five steps behind their man? Complete submission to male dominance?

        • Marita

          Considering rape still occurs in countries where women are forced to walk around in burkas, one would wonder if according to Gina, we should all be walking around in Hazmat suits.

      • Marita

        You’re completely misguided about the psychological reality of rape. Rape is not an act fraught from Sexual Desire. Rapists use sex as a weapon to inflict pain, violence and humiliation upon their victims. It has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the victims physical appearance or behavior. Perpetrating the stereotype that women can somehow control mens urge to commit rape negatively affects the psychological well-being and self-esteem of all women. What you’re arguing isn’t empowering, it’s oppression in its most basic form.

      • Rob T

        Gina, can you specify the “mixed messages” a woman sends by dressing like a “strumpet” and which of them says, “Please rape me!”

      • ZnSD

        You’re a hypocrite, lady. You wear suggestive clothing all the time. But I guess all those raped children shouldn’t have worn suggestive clothes, right? Because holding rapists accountable is nanny-state. You’re a moron.

      • NavyBlues05

        You seem to be finding fault with all who are not as “christian” as you. This ain’t a theocracy, lady. I didn’t sacrifice 20 yrs of service to protect those seeking the establishment of religion based authoritarian rule.

        • WXRGina

          That’s an ignorant “analysis” of the column, dead-wrong.

          • NavyBlues05

            Oh nay, nay… the ignorance lies in the tone with which you end this ersatz and puerile essay. Last paragraph negates any and all points you were struggling mightily to make.
            When you base your argument on a mythical being derived from long dead unknown authors, you’ve lost.

          • helligusvart

            So the 80+% of Americans who believe in God have no right to open their mouths, huh?

          • NavyBlues05

            *headdesk* Open and shout away but quit insisting others bend to your will based on how a 2000 year old manuscript is interpreted. I have to say back up when it comes to using a poorly translated book to establish public policy for the nation.

          • Trey

            On the flip side of that, why should we bend to you and your ilk’s will when you insist? i can think of half a dozen instances where the far left losers have demanded we Christians keep our mouths shut when it suits them

          • NavyBlues05

            You don’t have to bend. Just leave those who are different the heck alone. Address issues within your own tax subsidized church and other protected entities.
            Christians act like they’re being persecuted and marginalized… they’re in the majority! All their grandstanding and profiteering comes at the expense of atheists, agnostics…etc. If majority rule means Christianity trumps all, then this is a theocracy and all others suffer.

          • Cyn

            No one said that.

          • helligusvart

            “When you base your argument on a mythical being derived from long-dead unknown authors, you lose.”

          • Dawn1257

            There’s a distinct difference between believing in invisible friends (Gods) and having the right to make such claims.

            The both are protected by 1st Amendment guarantees, But, neither one gives you the right to be taken seriously.

          • NavyBlues05

            Exactly. When this manuscript is used as the sole justification for an argument, the discussion ends. It’s NOT a factual/proven document. It’s fiction, this is reality.

          • helligusvart

            Reality is eternal hellfire for those who deny Christ.

          • NavyBlues05

            … and you just proved my point. You’ve consigned me to a mythical place because I do not believe as totally as you. Yet megalomaniac, religion besotted politicians see nothing wrong with establishing national/state laws that conflict with my right to avoid religion.

          • http://victimsofgaybullying.wordpress.com/ JBenning

            you will get the point in due time. Try telling THAT to the BIG MAN upstairs.

          • MynameisBlarney

            That really doesn’t help your case in the slightest, lol.

          • helligusvart

            Straw man argument. And you have no Constitutional right to avoid religion.

          • Cyn

            LOL!

            There was a reason Jesus specifically told the boys not to spread the word among the Gentiles. Statements like the one you just made proves he was right.

          • helligusvart

            Please explain.

          • Cyn

            Without having a deep understanding of Judaism and the Torah, they would only have a superficial understanding of the teaching.

          • WhoMe?

            Erm, what? Let’s let that soak in. “Reality is eternal hellfire for those who deny Christ.” So the rest of us live in reality, while Christians live in… [gulp] … fantasy?
            Can it be that you’ve actually. albeit unintentionally, seen the light?

          • Grizzly Adams

            …it’s a dry heat

          • helligusvart

            Touche, pussycat!

          • MynameisBlarney

            Oh yeah?
            Prove it.

          • Cyn

            So where do you get the “have no right to open their mouths” from that?

            Have you bought into the looney idea of “Christian persecution”?

            You can say what you want, but with whatever you say the consequences are yours. People laughing at your ideas or being appalled by your beliefs, is not silencing you. Believe what you want, just don’t push your beliefs on others, like ‘this country can only be saved by coming to Jesus’ and trying to make laws that conform to your religion or sect of your religion. That is unconstitutional.

          • Trey

            How could Christian persecution possibly be a “looney idea”?

          • MynameisBlarney

            Not getting your way is not persecution, genius.

          • Trey

            Tell that to the gays. But look at the broader picture. Christians may not be as persecuted in the US but we aint that far off. but in other countries the persecution against Chrisitans is unbearable

          • MynameisBlarney

            They are humans, and deserve the very same rights as you and I.
            To deny them that, well, then you can’t really call yourselves Christians then, can you?

          • Trey

            they have and are entitled to the very same rights as anyone else. What they are trying to do is change things to suit their selfish desires

          • MynameisBlarney

            You just invalidated your own argument.

            “they have and are entitled to the very same rights as anyone else.”

            Then stop persecuting them.

          • Cyn

            Because there is no such thing happening here, it’s just the Christian right playing at being victims.

            No one is stopping them from speaking their minds.
            No one is making them use birth control or have abortions.
            No one is making them marry someone of the same sex.
            No one is making their churches perform gay weddings.
            There is no “War On Christmas”….

            Get it?

          • helligusvart

            Catholic Charities in Boston was forced to shut down for not placing children in same-sex households. Cakemakers, florists, etc. have been fined and shut down for not enabling same-sex couples in their sin. Cynthia and Robert Gifford were fined and forced to stop hosting weddings in their barn because they wouldn’t host a lesbian wedding. Brendan Eich was forced out of Mozilla, a company he helped create, because he supported Proposition 8. These are all examples of anti-Christian persecution. Problem is, you don’t care because you are an arrogant bigot who hates anyone who’s not like you!

          • Cyn

            Boston Catholic Charities shut down their adoption biz, because they couldn’t get free government money if they discriminated and their faithful failed to make up the difference.

            Most cake makers, florists, etc. just lost business, because tolerant folks did not want to have anything to do with their intolerance. If any were fined it would be due to anti-discrimination laws of the states they do business.

            The Giffords broke New York’s anti-discrimination law and paid the price. They weren’t forced to stop hosting weddings, they chose to stop hosting weddings. They still host receptions for straight and gay couples in their barn.

            you reap what you sow — intolerance begets intolerance

            Mozzilla couldn’t afford to be seen as intolerant when they needed to renew a major deal with Google, who is a strong supporter of gay rights, and Google had let it be known that an intolerant CEO as head of Mozzilla could put the deal in jeopardy.

            Again, you reap what you sow.

          • helligusvart

            Yes, you do reap what you sow. People like you sow immorality and hatred of God’s laws, and you will reap eternal hellfire as a result.

          • Cyn

            hahahahaha

          • MynameisBlarney

            Yeah? And?
            What’s wrong with that statement?

          • WhoremonalCrazyLotusSlugalo

            You’re confused. Of the 86% of Americans who identify as Christian, only 7% identify as practicing, church-going Christians. It comes to about 20% of the Christian population. So… the other 66% of Christians aren’t even “fighting” for fundamentalism. They are those “kinder, gentler, Christians” you and Gina evidently hate…cuz we all know Christ was about hate. Hate hate hate…It’s all he talked about… oh wait…nope.

          • helligusvart

            You are off your rocker. Go take your meds.

          • WhoremonalCrazyLotusSlugalo

            What, no counter? More lame than I thought.

          • helligusvart

            I can’t seem to get a counter in. Gina didn’t say that women who wear lipstick are asking to be raped.

          • MynameisBlarney

            A brilliant rebuttal.

          • helligusvart

            Thank you. I thought so too.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Of course you did.

          • thisoldspouse

            Christ never talked about hate? Thus you show yourself to be a Biblical illiterate.

          • WhoremonalCrazyLotusSlugalo

            Is that what I said? He never talked about it? I don’t think that’s what was implied in any way. I understand if you’re not bright enough to grasp broader implications of snark. It’s cool.

          • Grizzly Adams

            Pew research shows 20% of the population identifying their religion as none 2 years ago, the study also showed an average annual increase of “nones” at about 1%. So, today in the US, you’ve the “nones” at about 22% of the population and all believers (Christians, Muslims etc) combining for a total of 78%…Therefore, the 86% christian assertion is shall I say a tad exaggerated

          • Trey

            On the topic of kinder, gentler CHristians, I believe we should be somewhere in the middle. Maybe not in the middle but we should know there is a time to be kind and charitable and a time to fight injustice such as feminazism and gay marriage and the like

          • MynameisBlarney

            Can you provide cites to that stat?
            And sure, you can open your mouths, and the rest of us have every right to harshly ridicule you for your archaic beliefs when you try to shove them down our throats.

          • http://victimsofgaybullying.wordpress.com/ JBenning

            Then we who don’t believe in queerdom can,are and will continue to do the same thing when you (or them) try to shove that crap down our throats. Go away little troll toads. You’ve worn out your welcome here.

          • MynameisBlarney

            You can sure try, but when you use words like “queerdom”, I seriously doubt you have the mental and intellectual capacity to do anything other than make yourselves look even more backward, ignorant and bigoted.
            That said. Bring it.

          • Trey

            How is it that Christians who oppose homosexual behavior are mentally and intellectually bankrupt, backward, ignorant and bigoted for not approving such a lifestyle and using words like queerdom?

          • MynameisBlarney

            You don’t know, do ya?

          • Trey

            I thought you were blowing a ton of hot air. That is the primary reason i asked you to explain further. I mean I could easily explain how disapproval of the homosexual lifestyle is not discrimination, and i would have no problem doing so. i figured you would have no problem explainng further your claims of what is really false bigotry

          • MynameisBlarney

            Disapproval is fine. Your approval is neither sought, nor required
            Legislating your archaic beliefs onto those who don’t hold to those beliefs is not.
            That is what you don’t get.
            You don’t want to get “gay married”. awesome. You don’t get to decide that other people can’t.

          • Trey

            Isn’t that what other people are trying to do to Christians?

          • MynameisBlarney

            Really?
            As Jon Stewart once said, you’re confusing not getting your way, with being oppressed.

          • Trey

            As so are the gays. That is not an admission that you are right. You still havent answered my original question. Not very tactfully either

          • MynameisBlarney

            But the LGBT community in this nation actually have, and ARE still being persecuted. By folks like you.

            And no. No one is trying to persecute Christians. We just aren’t taking any more of your bronze age bullshit.

          • helligusvart

            Oh, I know, the poor widdoo gays are being so-o-o persecuted. Give me a break.

          • MynameisBlarney

            No.

          • Frito Pendejo

            Trying to “legislate their archaic beliefs” onto Christians, you mean? No, they’re not trying to make their beliefs the law of the land. They’re just trying to ensure that homosexuals and others have the rights they’re entitled to under the Constitution.

          • helligusvart

            Tell that to Cynthia and Robert Gifford, the New York couple forced to stop hosting weddings unless they host same-sex weddings.

          • Frito Pendejo

            Their business is a place of public accommodation. State law in New York prohibits discrimination based on race, creed, color, national origin, disability, or sexual orientation. Many states have similar laws and they are long settled matters of law.

            The Giffords were fined $13,000 for refusing to host a wedding. If they continue to break the law they presumably would be fined for each occurrence. They could lobby the New York legislature to change the law, or they could move to a state that allows them to discriminate against gays.

            We went through this years ago with African Americans. People who objected to doing business with them trotted out the same argument you did: that it violated their beliefs to do business with African Americans, and the government was unfairly infringing on their rights by forcing them to do so.

          • Trey

            “We went through this years ago with African Americans.” you are like everyone else on the pro gay agenda side are confusing skin color which is decided through genetics with a chosen lifestyle. Choose carefully your response. I am ready and armed to dismantle any claims you make

          • Kara Connor

            So should members of the old Dutch Reform Church be allowed to ignore racial discrimination laws?

          • helligusvart

            Depends on exactly what they believe. If they believe that it is wrong for a black person to marry a white person and a member of this church privately owns a farm and hosts weddings at it, he does have the right to turn down a black and white couple. Private property. And by the way, I am a white man married to a black woman.

          • Kara Connor

            Were talking about a public accommodation. A public accommodation can be a private business, such as a hotel or restaurant. So if you and your spouse traveled through a town where DRC wass predominant, shoidl it be legal for all the restaurants, hotels, bars and shops to refuse you service because you, as a mixed race couple, somehow offend their sincerely held religious beliefs?

          • helligusvart

            First of all, what is DRC? However, to answer your question, if such a scenario happened, we’d be out of that town pronto, and we’d make sure that it would be all over the web. However, we would not sue.

          • Kara Connor

            So you support legalizing racial discrimination again. It’s Dutch Reform Church, btw.

          • kissyface

            who is forcing you into a same sex marriage? who is denying you the right to marry whomever you choose?

          • Trey

            That isn’t thepoint. We are steadily being forced to accept a degenerate lifestyle that we do not wish to accept. This is just the tip of the iceberg

          • MynameisBlarney

            Oh, but that IS the point.
            How is LGBT equality forcing you to do anything other than stop being intolerant pricks, that is?

          • Trey

            There is nothing eqaul about it

          • MynameisBlarney

            Explain that please.
            You just contradicted what you said in a previous post about how the LGBT community deserves the same rights as everyone else.

          • kissyface

            you do not have to accept it, you just can’t block their constitutional rights. you do realize that 50 years ago bigots like you were saying the same thing about interracial marriage? why do you conservatives claim you believe in freedom then try to take away everyone else’s freedom?

          • Trey

            No body is trying to take away anyone’s freedom. Everyone has the freedom to marry someone of the opposite sex. No freedoms being taken there! There is nothing bigoted about dosapproving of a degenerate lifestyle. if we dont haveto accept their degenerate lifestyles as you say we don’t whats it matter to you? And none and I mean NO ONE can explain how Christians are bigoted. No one has even attempted to

          • kissyface

            its not our fault you are too stupid to understand our explanations. the bible i have read promoted love not hatred. god is going to judge you by the way you treat your neighbors and i would not want to be in your shoes when that day comes

          • Trey

            You call me stupid yet you call me hateful. Pot meet kettle. When I am standing before God he is not going to ask me if i was nice to fags. He is going to ask me if i lived by his word. All of it. That includes not approving of homosexual behavior. He is going to ask if I defended him to the likes of true bigots such as yourself. I will be rewarded

          • kissyface

            god commanded you to love thy neighbor, he told you to judge not lest ye be judged, he told you to care for people, he never said to discriminate and hate

          • Trey

            He also commanded that man shall not lie with man as he lies with woman did he not? Disapproval is not hate

          • MynameisBlarney

            He also said that wearing mixed fibers is punishable by death. And eating shellfish.

          • kissyface

            he also commanded you to render unto Caesar the law belongs to Caesar. it disgusts me when people twist god’s love into hate..

          • Trey

            do you even know what he meant by render to Caesar what belongs to Caesar?

          • kissyface

            he was speaking taxes and obeying laws

          • Trey

            exactly. He was also speaking on giving offerings to God as well. But going back to obeying laws. Why should we not obey laws that had said gays are not to marry?

          • kissyface

            in the US, those laws violate the Constitution. we are not a theocracy

          • Trey

            A federal judge meddling in religious affairs violates the constitution as well

          • kissyface

            marriage is a legal contract, not a religious affair. no judge has ordered churches to marry gay people nor will they but some churches have chosen to perform gay marriages

          • MynameisBlarney

            No, it doesn’t when it stops you from discriminating.
            And, this is a SECULAR nation. Your archaic religion has NO place in the making of law here.

          • Trey

            Yeah a secular nation… that is why our money says in God we trust. You must hate your money. I’ll take it off you rhands

          • Sarah Sahasbeen

            Do you really not know that it has only said that on money since the 1950s? Is God backing up the value of our money or is it the US government?

          • Trey

            doesnt matter how long it has said that. it says it. end of story. it says in Godwe trust even today

          • Frito Pendejo

            Until 1956 the motto was E pluribus unum. Guess your dad hated his money!

          • Trey

            My dad was born in 59and he is a buddhist. doubt he cares about God. Probably cares less than you do

          • Frito Pendejo

            You know what I meant. The point is that “In God We Trust” is just a recent slogan. It has no special significance just because it’s printed on paper bills.

          • helligusvart

            “In God We Trust” is our national motto now. End of story.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Really? lol

          • Trey

            Yes really. How would you like to make arriangements to have all your monies tranfered to me?

          • MynameisBlarney

            Yeah, hold your breath.

          • kissyface

            you are the reason young people are running from religion

          • Trey

            Actually it is because people like who who romanticise debauchery that make young people turn from religion

          • kissyface

            no we are running from people like you who twist god’s words for your own agenda. we were raised in the church and have all run from the hatred hypocrites like you are spouting in the name of the lord

          • Trey

            you dont really claim to knowmuch about God

          • kissyface

            no that would be you. i would hate to be in your shoes on judgement day

          • Trey

            Oh please, enlighten me. I am sure you have spent time in church and currently attend regularly and read your bible every single day

          • kissyface

            no i don’t anymore. i grew up in the church and ran from it because of people like you using the bible to justify denying people their basic human rights. when i do attend services its at a church that has an openly gay female pastor who uses god’s world to promote love. churches are going to die if they can’t bring my generation back to it

          • Trey

            i am pretty sure i pam part of “your generation” as well… you have a verydistorted view of God. I agree that he has the love attribute but if you deny God’s hatred for sin, andwhat God counts as sin, you just arent getting it and therefore have no right to speak on God’s character

          • kissyface

            i very much doubt you are part of my generation

          • Trey

            I’m only 28, probably about a 10 year difference, but its close enough to be in your generation. Let me ask you, what is it that makes certain things clearly stated in the bible by God so hard to accept? I mean I have a ton of Calvinist friends and I cannot find a single supporting scripture to support Calvinism, so i sympathize with you to a point. But to say that God does not approach homosexuality with a deep hatred, as it is sin, is plain ignorance. So why is that impossible for you toaccept?

          • Frito Pendejo

            Well, no, it’s the opposite. To this point the laws have unfairly discriminated against gays, largely for religious reasons. That is to say, to date the gov’t has been meddling for religious reasons, and that’s clearly unconstitutional.

            So what the federal judiciary is doing is correcting that — they’re putting a stop to gov’t meddling for religious reasons.

          • Frito Pendejo

            Why do we not obey all those bizarre laws in Leviticus? Mixing threads, growing crops of the wrong kind together, eating fat and shellfish, etc. etc.

            We have over the centuries gotten adept at ignoring whole chunks of the Bible. We’re highly selective as to which parts we insist are important, aren’t we?

          • MynameisBlarney

            Yeah, pay the damn taxes and, more importantly, live by the law of the land.

          • Trey

            Why couldn’t the gays live by the law of the land that saidthey were not to mary? Why did they have to fight it and lobby and threaten until they got their way?

          • kissyface

            the law of the land is the Constitution and the Constitution says everyone has EQUAL rights

          • MynameisBlarney

            Your religious beliefs are NOT law.

          • Trey

            maybe they should be. America would be a much better place if they were

          • MynameisBlarney

            You want a Theocracy, move to Iran.

          • Frito Pendejo

            Because the law of the land was (and still is in many places) unjust. Same as with the civil rights movement in the early ’60s.

          • Trey

            How dare you compare the civil rights movement of the 60s with the gay agenda

          • Frito Pendejo

            I merely pointed out that the law of the land once denied fundamental rights to black people. Today it denies a fundamental right to gays. Those are matters of record.

          • Trey

            A few months ago I read an article, i dont remember where, and it said 100 black preachers held a rally to decry the claims of the gay agenda saying gay marriage was not a civil right. now i know they are a bit biased because they were preachers, but if you remove that once aspect and say 100 black people held a rally saying gay marriage was not a civil right, given history of the treatment of blacks in this country, dont you think we should shut up and listen?

          • Frito Pendejo

            100 black preachers don’t speak for the whole African American population, which strongly favors gay rights.

            But yes, I think we should listen to their opinions, just as we would 100 white preachers or 100 or any other group. We all get our say, right?

            At the end of the day, though, it’s still a matter of rights under the Constitution. It’s not a matter that can be decided by the feelings or religious convictions of 1 person or 100 or a million or even the majority. Rights are not subject to public opinion, not of the majority and certainly not of a minority’s religious belief.

          • kissyface

            so woman lying with women is fine? god is such a perv

          • MynameisBlarney

            The words you choose to use make it clear that you are indeed, a bigot.

          • Trey

            Hardly

          • MynameisBlarney

            Oh, but they do. That you deny it is irrelevant. It IS quite clear.

          • Trey

            And I suppose you are not a bigot because you fight against the big bad Christian (sarcasm should be noted) who wants to kill everyone?

          • kissyface

            you are not christian. you are twisting Christianity into something ugly

          • Trey

            I am, not that i need to defend myself to you. but let me ask you this. do you approve of murderers? theives? rapists? child molesters?

          • kissyface

            so now you are comparing law abiding citizens with criminal? wow i would hate to be in your shoes on judgement day. murderers, thieves, rapists, and child molesters harm people. two people being married regardless of their sex harms no one

          • Trey

            i am not comparinggays to anyone i simply asked if you approve of those people as well as the gays and would love and show them compassion as you say we should to the gays

          • kissyface

            of course i don’t approve of criminals. they belong in prison. it has nothing to do with gay people.

          • Trey

            perhaps i should ask this another way,, would you love and show compassion upon murderers theivesrapists and child molesters? these things hold a moral wrong just like homosexuality. the thing is Christians do love and show compassion upon homosexuals as well that is why we tell them of the dangers of their chosen lifestyle. but thiss a yes or no question. would you show the same love and compassion to murderers theives rapists and child molesterthat you demand Christianss show gays? yes or no

          • kissyface

            there is a huge difference between a moral wrong and a criminal act that destroys the victim you sick, twisted excuse for a human being. i equate your bigotry as a moral wrong but i would never compare your moral failures to child molesters, murderer, thieves, and rapists

          • MynameisBlarney

            Fail.
            You fail, so hard.

          • MynameisBlarney

            I never said anything about you guys wanting to kill everyone.
            Something you need to get off your chest, son?

          • MynameisBlarney

            We have, you just aren’t comprehending it, or you are ignoring it.

          • Trey

            Not even close. You not so tactfully avoid the question by doing exactly whatyou are trying to speak against. you are bigoted to anyone who disapproves of a chosen lifestyle. That is why you trolls come out in droves to this log. you claim that gays deserve extra rights but cannot defend it. you cannot defend your claim that anyone disapproving of such a chosen lifestule is a bigot

          • kissyface

            when did you choose to be straight? your sexual orientation is not a choice, its how you are born. over 1,500 species have homosexuals and only one has homophobes so are you saying God made a mistake when he created 1,500 species that have homosexuals?

          • Frito Pendejo

            “you claim that gays deserve extra rights”

            What extra rights are those?

          • Trey

            marying someone of the same gender. Marriage is not only about love. if it was there are plenty of 22 year olds who are married to 80 year olds for the sole purpose of collecting money. Should we void those marriages since you seem to believe love is the only reason one should be married

          • kissyface

            love is not the ONLY reason for marriage but everyone should be free to marry who they love. marriage is abut stability, property rights, medical rights, and a million other things. we should all have choice. how does gay marriage effect you? do you treat divorced people with the same contempt you treat gay people?

          • Trey

            As a product of a divorced mother and father, yes.

          • kissyface

            do you deny divorced people equal rights like gay people?

          • Frito Pendejo

            “marying someone of the same gender. Marriage is not only about love.”

            That’s right, marriage is about more than just romantic love. It’s about raising a family; it’s about an enduring commitment; it’s about being there for your spouse through thick & thin.

            The sex of the partners is not relevant to those commitments. It doesn’t interfere in any way. For us to prohibit people by law on the basis of their downstairs plumbing just because “we’ve always done it that way” and some verses in a religious text say it’s wrong is arbitrary and unconstitutional.

            And it’s just plain wrong on fairness grounds.

          • Trey

            It;s also about glorifying God if you ever cared to read Song of Solomon. Gay marriage does not in any way shape or form glorify God. That is the #1 reason people SHOULD be married

          • MynameisBlarney

            LOL
            Wow.
            Not everyone cares about what you say your bearded sky fairy wants.
            Get it?

          • Trey

            Not everyone cares about what the gays want. get it?

          • MynameisBlarney

            Of course, But the LGBT community isn’t pushing their beliefs onto you, They just want what you have already agreed they should have. Equal rights.
            Get it?

          • Trey

            uh…. yes they are pushing their beliefs on us

          • MynameisBlarney

            Explain in detail, just exactly how they’re doing that.
            Wanting equal rights as provided by the Constitution is NOT pushing their beliefs onto you, no matter how much you whinge about it.

          • Frito Pendejo

            “Gay marriage does not in any way shape or form glorify God.”

            Sure it can. There are lots of gay Christians.

          • Russell Sayce

            “There are lots of gay Christians.”

            I nominate this sentence as the understatement of the blog.

          • helligusvart

            Even if this were true, homosexuality can never glorify God, because it is abominable to Him. (Leviticus 18:22)

          • MynameisBlarney

            “Everyone has the freedom to marry someone of the opposite sex”

            Again, you contradict yourself.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Who the hell said anything about EXTRA rights?
            They demand, and bloody well deserve the same rights you and I enjoy. you said it yourself.

          • MynameisBlarney

            “Everyone has the freedom to marry someone of the opposite sex”

            No they don’t.
            That’s one of the rights they’re fighting for.
            I thought lying was a sin.

          • helligusvart

            They don’t have the right to marry someone of the OPPOSITE sex? In what state?

          • MynameisBlarney

            I misread it. Apologies.

          • Frito Pendejo

            That very argument was used just fifty years ago in opposition to outlawing states’ miscegenation laws.

          • Trey

            The difference as you may have been told thousands of times is sexual orientation is not the same as skin color

          • kissyface

            they are both traits you are BORN with. why don’t you follow god’s word and love thy neighbor and JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED

          • Trey

            Disapproving of a chosen lifestyle is not hate. I have gay friends. I have a gay cousin. None of who I hate Hate would be what happened to blacks for centuries. Gays were not taken against their will to be sold into slavery. Gays have not been lynched. Gays have not been denied the right to vote. Apples and oranges.

          • kissyface

            Gays are raped for being gay. gays are denied services for being gay, gays are fired for being gay, denied housing, denied housing, denied help from charities, imprisoned, beaten and murdered. all gays want is equal protection and equal rights under the law

          • helligusvart

            This is crap. It’s not happening now. Maybe at one time, but not now. Get off the sob story. Homosexuals themselves are the persecutors now.

          • Frito Pendejo

            There’s no law against disapproving of gay marriage. It’s just that it’s unjust to enshrine that disapproval in law, and prohibit gays from doing what they by rights ought to be able to do, based on nothing more than some Christians’ interpretation of the Bible. (There are many knowledgeable Christians who do not object on biblical grounds.)

            And of course beside the biblical justification the only other reasons people offer are “ewww, it squicks me out” and “we never allowed it before.” Which aren’t reasons at all.

          • Frito Pendejo

            Y’all believe that now, but at the time Christians (and, to be fair, the majority of Americans) firmly believed that race mixing was as wrong and undesirable as homosexuality.

            Preachers and theologians back then found biblical support for their belief that race mixing was wrong, just as believers today find scriptural support for their views against homosexuality.

          • Trey

            Yes, but we have always known that race is not something that is unnatural or can be changed. We may not have always cared but We realize we were wrong to hate people of color. Most of us anyway. There is conclusive evidence that race is not chosen. there is not conclusive evidence that homosexuality is not chosen. apples and oranges still.

          • Frito Pendejo

            “there is not conclusive evidence that homosexuality is not chosen”

            Not true. It’s not yet known whether it’s purely genetic like racial characteristics are, but that’s still on the table.

            And even if it isn’t purely genetic — if it has to do with, say, gene expression in the early years of life — it still is not merely a conscious choice. That much has been proven conclusively.

            And even if it were purely a choice (which it isn’t), that still wouldn’t justify discriminating against them in the law by preventing them from marrying.

          • MynameisBlarney

            What a steaming load of bullshit.
            When did you decide to become a heterosexual?

          • tomd

            As a Christian you enjoy protection against eviction and firing due to your religion, yet religion is just an idea. It can be changed in seconds.

            If we can protect an idea, why not sexual orientation, which is far more hardwired into us?

          • helligusvart

            Charles Manson “found” biblical support for his murders. So what? There are always crazies out there who will find a way to justify anything. Homosexuality is clearly condemned in scripture. Marrying someone outside of your race isn’t. And you know that. So why don’t you just admit that Trey and I are right and move on?

          • MynameisBlarney

            LGBT is the new black.

          • Trey

            and this exactly why i hate the so called gay rights movement

          • MynameisBlarney

            Because you hate black people too?

          • Trey

            Nope who said that

          • helligusvart

            I’m sure the majority of blacks will just love that, considering they tend to run rather anti-homosexual.

          • MynameisBlarney

            We’re not the ones stuck in the bronze age. Clinging to a book written 300 years after the time your deity was allegedly walking around doing things you’d now consider to be Socialist and goawd forbid, Liberal. You know, feeding the poor, taking care of the sick.
            Things that so called modern Christians care to bother with.

          • Trey

            I agree whole heartedly that we need to be feeding poor and taking care of the sick. but that is just one of many facets of Christianity. Another facet is defending the faith. Being kind to one another is great, and many liberal atheists on here would do well to adhere to that. But we also must protect and defend our beliefs. The majority of modern Christians do not go around killing gay people. We just speak in favor of our beliefs that homosexuality is wrong.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Perhaps, if you Christians started feeding the hungry and taking care of the sick, like that guy you all claim to worship, and worry less about what people do in their own homes, this world would be a much better place.
            But no…you guys cherry pick the bible like you do the Constitution, and try to legislate your beliefs onto everyone.
            This is not, and never has been a Christian nation.
            We are not a Theocracy.
            If you want to live in a Theocracy, move to Iran.

          • helligusvart

            Such as Franklin Graham’s Samaritan’s Purse? By the way, Space Ghost is a dumb show.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Another brilliant rebuttal. LOL

          • helligusvart

            Thank you. I thought so too.

          • kissyface

            they can open their mouths, the just can’t make laws based on their beliefs

          • http://victimsofgaybullying.wordpress.com/ JBenning

            But queers and unbelievers can? Yeah, that’s what I thought. See, you are as lame as Navyblues05 is.

          • Trey

            God Bless you for this

          • MynameisBlarney

            LOL
            Yes. How dare people want equality!

          • Frito Pendejo

            False analogy. Laws that protect the rights of Christians, homosexuals, unbelievers, or any other group of Americans against infringement by the majority are constitutional. Laws that elevate or enshrine the religious beliefs of any group, Christian or otherwise, are unconstitutional.

            That a majority of Americans self identify as Christian is irrelevant. What Christians often do, as you did here, is to conflate beliefs with rights.

          • MynameisBlarney

            +1000 ^

          • helligusvart

            Beliefs are rights. Read the First Amendment.

          • Frito Pendejo

            I have, but you seem unclear as to its meaning. Because if you were familiar with it you’d immediately recognize that what I wrote:

            “Laws that elevate or enshrine the religious beliefs of any group, Christian or otherwise, are unconstitutional.”

            is the first clause — the Establishment Clause — reworded:

            “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”

            We’re all entitled to free exercise of our beliefs, but that doesn’t include the right to impose our beliefs on others, or to limit or restrict the constitutional rights of others.

          • helligusvart

            Yet Gina proposed no such thing, so where is this coming from? Did she call on government to dictate to women what to wear? No.

          • kissyface

            no, sorry bigot, we just believe in equal rights for EVERYONE. no one is passing a law that you must become gay, no one is beating you because you are straight, no one is murdering you because you are straight. everyone has the right to voice their beliefs, they do not have a right to force their beliefs on others. more people would believe in religion if it wasn’t people like you twisted religion into dirty hate

          • NavyBlues05

            Lame…why yes I am a disabled vet. “Queers and unbelievers” have been persecuted and marginalized for decades in this country… so yeah, time they had a voice in overturning laws that oppress them.

          • WhoMe?

            Open away. Is somebody stopping you? People aren’t required to be in lockstep with you.

          • tomd

            It’s 77%, and you actually think that a majority of that 77% are not “true Christians”. If you want to include them in your numbers, you also have to admit that many of them disagree with you on just about everything.

          • http://victimsofgaybullying.wordpress.com/ JBenning

            NavyBlues05….your day is coming my friend. If you think God is dead, then you have to admit He once lived. God is eternal. WE are not. your own argument is about as lame as dog on one leg.

          • kissyface

            says the ignorant woman blaming women for getting raped

          • MynameisBlarney

            Nay verily.
            The entire premise of your article is what is ignorant and dead wrong.

          • gransview

            You are on a roll!

          • MynameisBlarney

            *bows*

          • Cyn

            It is not an “ignorant analysis” when you end with “the truth is that there can be no
            positive transformation of any sick culture without the saving power of
            the Spirit of God through Jesus Christ to change people’s hearts of stone into new hearts of flesh.”.

        • helligusvart

          Where did you find this in the article?

          • CandaceTX

            The Onion.

          • NavyBlues05

            HEY CANDACE!

          • CandaceTX

            #terroristfistjab HEY YOURSELF! ☺

          • NavyBlues05

            Did you read her summation?

          • helligusvart

            She’s not talking about a theocracy. She’s talking about Americans accepting the truths of the Bible. That can’t be forced by government.

          • FieryLocks

            It washed up out of a sewer

      • acmavm

        Yes Toots, that’s EXACTLY what you did. And like people who do that and get called on it, you’re going to try to tell every one else that read what you said that they’re stupid and they didn’t ‘understand’ what you really meant.

        Happens all the time. Generally on men’s rights websites. But I have heard some women are just as nuts as they are.

      • eyelashviper

        Wow, disputing those who actually read your words and dare to repeat them back to you……
        Again, and again, and again, below, also too..

      • kissyface

        women are not responsible for being raped. the rapist is the responsible party. i sincerely hope you are never raped and have to deal with women like you shaming you for the act of a criminal. how dare you?

      • Cyn

        An imaginary being doesn’t make people good, just as and imaginary being doesn’t make people evil.

        Some of the worst atrocities that have ever been committed were done in the name of “God”, by people who claimed their hearts were filled with the “Holy Spirit”, i.e., Christians.

      • CandaceTX

        Yup… because you never hear of members of clergy acting with sexual inappropriateness.

      • tes

        Of course you don’t mention anything about the men who dress and act provocatively. Women are always the easy target. Grow up.

      • Grizzly Adams

        Last I checked, most rapists had already been transformed by god…at least that what the incarceration statistics tell us…the majority prisoners were indeed people of god before they got arrested

      • Grizzly Adams

        So when a rapist marries his victim as commanded by god in
        Deuteronomy 22:28–29 he’s no longer a rapist because of a “true transformation by God”…thanks, I knew that passage was sick, now I understand why I felt that way

    • Michex

      So you are going to educate a brute not to rape, huh? By what, an anti-bullying class? Typical head in the clouds.

      • tomd

        Well, your idea of chaperones and suggesting that women stay home all the time doesn’t appear to have much merit.

        Do you really think that men are so dumb that they can’t understand this issue better? Most men who rape are not the extreme sociopaths you’re thinking of. Awareness campaigns have had measurable results, and recognition that “rape culture” exists – that there is a systemic thing in our culture that makes rape more acceptable – is a first step.

        • Michex

          How about mandatory anti-rape programs starting in kindergarten, along with LGBTQ clubs, homosexual books, and a Day of Silence to start the tykes off right in life?

          • tomd

            Part of age-appropriate sex education should be the importance of consent before and during sex. If you don’t teach this part, you are leaving out a key component.

    • helligusvart

      You are right. Men do need to act like responsible adults. But so do women.

      • kissyface

        she deserved to be raped because she had the nerve to think she could go to a party

        • helligusvart

          This is exactly the kind of emotionalist drivel I am railing against here. Grow up!

          • kissyface

            you get raped then come tell me about it. i am sick of people telling me i am responsible for a criminals action. you grow up

          • helligusvart

            No one said women ask to be raped because they go to a party! NO ONE! You are a liar!

          • kissyface

            read the article. she is saying women shouldn’t go to frat parties, or wear the clothing they wish, or go to bars. YOU ARE THE LIAR. ITS RIGHT THERE IN PRINT

          • helligusvart

            You’re hopeless. This is my last response to you unless you stop slandering people.

          • kissyface

            slandering people? you are so funny. you might want to get out a dictionary and look up slander since you obviously don’t know what it means

          • kissyface

            “Do women ever bear any responsibility for
            putting themselves in potentially dangerous places and situations, like
            drunken frat parties? Do they bear no responsibility for the
            outrageous “fashions” they choose to wear nowadays, clothing that makes
            them look like prostitutes and porn “stars,” clothing that arguably
            feeds the “rape culture”

      • tomd

        I personally know women who were raped by men. I don’t know any men who were raped by women. Do you?

        Wearing a short skirt is not equivalent to raping someone.

    • Trey

      You have a point but the question is how are you going to get men to stop raping women? It would be near impossible. The best way is to not jump on the feminist bandwagon and teach women how to defend themselves. THAT is true feminism. Showing women a REAL way to be strong and independent. Not this men are evil bull that feminism represents today

  • TruthDetector

    Yeah, Gina, sheesh. tomd is right. If sluts wanna be sluts, they shouldn’t be blamed when things that happen to sluts happen to them. I mean, it’s just like with our “burglary culture.” If homeowners in high crime areas want to leave their front door open with pricy jewelry and a flat-screen in in plain sight for all to see, and then leave the house for a week, they should be able to do so and fully expect that their personal items will still be there when they return, untouched. The way to stop burglary is to get burglars to stop burgling. Period. The homeowner should bear no responsibility for being a stupid idiot. Likewise, slutty little trollops who send mixed signals to men, get wasted, go topless and pass out at a frat party bear no responsibility if something terrible (and criminal) happens to them. I mean, they’re liberals! You know that liberals can’t be held responsible for anything. That whole “taking responsibility for your own actions” nonsense is so antiquated.

    • Octoberfurst

      Let me guess—you were once charged with date rape and just “know” it wasn’t your fault. After all she was dressed like a slut and was drunk so what’s a guy supposed to do? She was practically begging for it! My heart bleeds for ya!

      • Michex

        There was a good reason that women had chaperones years ago.

        • tomd

          Women had chaperones because they were essentially property and loss of virginity lessened their value.

          You consider this a “good” reason?

          Why not chaperone men now? They appear to need it more.

          • Michex

            Some men may need it.

          • MynameisBlarney

            What men need, is to stop raping.
            Period.

          • WhoMe?

            If men – some men, as you say – need chaperones, then we should just lock them up. Oh, but wait, we don’t do that in this country, right? We just blame the vic instead, after these ill-bred criminals commit their crimes. SMH.
            How about we change the dialogue. How about we raise better men? HMMM? How about that?

    • Rob T

      Right, and if you openly your views, you shouldn’t complain when someone hits you upside the head with a shovel. I mean, if you think a decent socieity means you should be able to speak without being physically assaulted, you’re just not taking responsibility for your own actions and the way you contributed to getting yourself beaten up!

      • Michex

        Especially if the person who speaks out is against the homosexual agenda. Homosexuals direct hate at them.
        Homosexuals have thrown feces at churches. They shout down speakers. They make obscene gestures.
        They are the biggest bullies.

        • Rob T

          Are you now just issuing replies at random, even if they have nothing to do with what you’re replying to?

          • acmavm

            I’m glad you asked. I was starting to get confused and I was wondering if I missed something.

        • ZnSD

          Lol the minute you trot out “homosexual agenda” you lose because the only agenda is equality. You’re just another moron screaming in the wind. People have thrown feces at churches? Maybe churches should stop lying about gay people.

        • IslandTyger

          Would the homosexual who allegedly did that be a gay bishop? Perhaps a lesbian priest?

          The Bible has a prohibition on lying, you know.

        • MynameisBlarney

          What a steaming load of BS.
          That is typical of the ridiculous homophobic drivel that we’ve come to expect from the Talibangelical Frightwingers.

    • tomd

      “If sluts wanna be sluts, they shouldn’t be blamed when things that happen to sluts happen to them.”

      Congratulations. You are the problem.

      You are claiming that rape (“things that happen to sluts”) is acceptable if a woman matches *your* specific definition of a ‘slut’.

      Why do you think this is acceptable? Explain exactly why *you* feel you have the right to rape someone based on this? Why should a specific blouse, or having had multiple partners, make this OK in your view?

    • CandaceTX

      taking responsibility:
      the burglar is responsible for their acts of burglary
      the rapist is responsible for their acts of rape.

    • eeyore

      In point of fact, TruthDetector, yes. In each case the criminal is entirely responsible for, and guilty of, the crime. People may use more or fewer defensive measures as circumstances occur, but in every case, the criminal is 100% responsible. In every case, the victim is simply the victim, the person who has been wronged. A tempting target does not make the victim guilty, and every non-criminal will decline to commit a crime. There is no negotiating the location of guilt. In every case it is the criminal.

  • Opposition Research

    Take out the scapegoating of “godlessness,” and this becomes a starting point for a heck of an interesting discussion.

  • James Lopure

    Women’s sexual power is a threat to any culture based upon a puritanical patriarchy and therefore that culture will respond with various devices to control and repress that power. “Slut Shaming,” forcing young women to make “purity pledges” to their fathers, blaming the victim for her rape, anti-choice legislation, etc. are all aimed at placing women’s sexuality under the control of men (and bluenoses like Miller). But I wonder, just what would a Christian burqa look like?

    It is the sole responsibility of men to stop rape. Period.

    • Michex

      Sometimes men rape other men, under unusual circumstances.

      • WhoMe?

        Yeah, and? Wait, let me help you. And … they should stop doing that, too.

      • MynameisBlarney

        And?

  • maccamcfc

    If you quote Rush Limbaugh on any women’s issue you lose the argument right away

    • IslandTyger

      Especially considering that his values are drug addiction and multiple marriages.

      • MynameisBlarney

        And Dominican boys.

  • Layla13

    I’m surprised Gina didn’t flat out say we should stone rape victims to death. It’s in that old book she loves so much, along with selling your daughter and smashing infants against rocks….

    • Michex

      There were chaperones in past times. Why do you think that was?

      • Layla13

        To keep those slutty slutty sluts from smashing infants against rocks and make sure they marry their rapist the way God intended.

  • Rob T

    Oh, this is awful:

    There again, can it be argued that a woman dressed like a strumpet, yet saying ‘no’ to unwanted sexual advances, sends a mixed message?

    Can you specify the mixed messages? More exactly, can you specify how dressing like a “strumpet” says, “Please rape me!” Because I’m pretty sure even “strumpets” don’t want to be raped.

  • JohnBryansFontaine

    What about all of the supposedly Conservative Women who dress like strumpets and the like on FOX ?

    • WXRGina

      What about them? Did you miss one of the central messages of the column–that we are living in a diseased, over-sexed, immoral culture?

      • Freedonian

        Freedom includes sexual freedom as a fundamental right, your opinion on the matter really does not count for much.

        • Michex

          What age does “sexual freedom” start, Freedonian?

      • Dawn1257

        I would then expect that your wardrobe is being expunged now, only to be repopulated by head to toe coverings?

      • Marita

        I agree with you on one thing. We are living in a diseased culture. I blame the Anti-Vaccination movement for the resurgence of diseases we eradicated decades ago.

      • JohnBryansFontaine

        As Conservatives, isn’t FOX supposed to be opposing this ‘ diseased, over-sexed, immoral culture ‘ ? Unless, of course, they’re just a bunch of hypocrites.

        Furthermore, I don’t believe that the majority of Americans would support the Christian Theocratic State that you would have our Country turned into.

        • WXRGina

          No one advanced a “theocratic state.” You’re imposing your false interpretation on the column. As for FOX News, since when is it the bastion of morality you seem to believe it is?

          • JohnBryansFontaine

            “…Our nation has turned its back on God. We have kicked Him out of our schools and out of the public square. We have raised several generations of Godless, self-centered, sex-obsessed kids, and the truth is that there can be no positive transformation of any sick culture without the saving power of the Spirit of God through Jesus Christ to change people’s hearts of stone into new hearts of flesh….” This viewpoint is identical to Christian Nationalism. Moreover, whenever I read or hear of a fundamentalist Christian commenting in this fashion, I wonder if they mean their ( underlined ) view of Christ.

            As for ‘ Godlessness ‘;perhaps only 10 percent of the population is actually atheist. I myself believe that yes, there is a God, and I also happen to believe in the Resurrection of Christ. But I do not believe that Human Nature is basically Evil. I believe that most people of other faiths are Good. Conceivably even atheists.

            As for FOX, since they preach Conservatism, aren’t they supposed to be a ‘ bastion of morality ‘ ?

            Lastly, the phrase ‘ feminazi ‘ is Orwellian doublespeak since Hitler believed that feminism was another Jewish conspiracy.

          • helligusvart

            One need not be an atheist to be godless. A godless person is one who doesn’t have Jesus Christ in his life, which will necessarily entail a belief in the Bible as the absolute, inerrant, verbally inspired Word of God.

          • WhoMe?

            Do you think god is only for Christians?

          • helligusvart

            You need to accept Christ in order to know God. “There is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.” (Acts 4:12)

          • WhoMe?

            Christ is not the only path to god. You are arrogant to think so. You need to stretch your brain a little more. I don’t deny you your Jesus path. Must you deny others their path to their god?

          • Grizzly Adams

            Actually to “know” god, he’d need to show up at my house for a spliff and a beer and we could talk about a few things. I invited him years ago, he has yet to show. Until such time that he does show, I can only assume that he doesn’t exist, or doesn’t care

          • MynameisBlarney

            But what about all those other religions that say the same thing about their sky fairy?

          • JohnBryansFontaine

            ” I know in my heart that man is good. ” – Ronald Reagan

          • helligusvart

            So?

          • JohnBryansFontaine

            Reagan, ironically the icon of Conservatives, was agreeing with a basic Liberal philosophy with that quote. Also, by stating that ‘ man is good ‘ , Reagan, though a Christian himself, was at odds with the Bible.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Ah…so…if someone doesn’t believe in your particular mythological deity, they’re godless.
            Got it.

          • Sarah Sahasbeen

            Who or what proves that it is the absolute, inerrant, verbally inspired word of God? The ancient Greeks believe in Zeus and Neptune among others, and there are certainly documents that prove their existence too. Same with the ancient Egyptians. If he’s as all powerful, all knowing, everywhere present, then tell him to come down and prove it in a court of law.

          • helligusvart

            He doesn’t have to. He’s not beholden to you.

        • helligusvart

          There’s nothing wrong with the way Fox women dress. You simply criticize their mode of dress because they are conservatives. Tell me, do you watch R-rated movies with sex and nudity?

          • JohnBryansFontaine

            I criticize FOX’s women because of their Hypocrisy. Their politics is at complete odds with how they dress and these are also the outrageous fashions which Ms. Miller describes.

            And why should I reveal my viewing habits when you will reveal neither your face nor your name ?

      • tomd

        So it’s OK for men to rape women because you think our current culture is somehow “immoral”? What about all the rapes in past generations when things were supposedly “moral”?

        • WXRGina

          Is that it, Tom? Where did you find any hint in the column that it is “OK for men to rape women”? Answer: you didn’t.

          • NavyBlues05

            When haven’t we been living in a diseased, over sexed, immoral culture?
            Seriously, when haven’t we?

          • helligusvart

            For most of American history up until the 60’s. Yes there has always been sexual immorality, but not at today’s levels.

          • NavyBlues05

            The increase in levels is due to the increase in population. Also, immoral behavior is widely reported, more so than ever before. If you doubt me…review the biographies of US presidents from Kennedy on back. The depraved acts of service members during WW II you make your ears bleed.

          • tomd

            Funny. You’re getting put through the wringer on this one and you respond to *this* comment?

            When you tell men that they aren’t responsible for their actions; that it’s even partly the woman’s fault because of totally unrelated things like what they’re wearing – you are sending the message that it’s at least partially OK.

            If that’s not what you want to say (and I’m sure it isn’t) – then stop repeating this garbage. You aren’t helping.

        • NavyBlues05

          That’s the very point I don’t understand. The year they stopped forcing kids to pray and read bible stories in public school, religion infatuated conservatives think that was the beginning of immoral behavior.

          • tomd

            I think it’s now an automatic reflex. 30 seconds of reflection will reveal why evangelical Christians should not want this to happen. Exhibit A: I used to be a public school teacher. I assure you that under *no* circumstances would they want me teaching religion to their kids:

            “The Flood. Boys and girls – do you think children should be punished for what their parents did? No? Well God did. He got so angry that he drowned all the kittens and babies one time and put only one family in a boat.”

            Religion is best done at home and Church.

        • helligusvart

          Where did Gina say that rape is ever OK?

          • tomd

            I’m sure she doesn’t. But she seems determined to lay blame for it on anyone or anything that doesn’t have a penis.

    • helligusvart

      They don’t.

    • tes

      I always think Sarah Palin would look and sound better in a tied off large garbage bag.

  • NavyBlues05

    “Our nation has turned its back on God. We have kicked Him out of our schools and out of the public square. We have raised several generations of Godless, self-centered, sex-obsessed kids, and the truth is that there can be no positive transformation of any sick culture without the saving power of the Spirit of God through Jesus Christ to change people’s hearts of stone into new hearts of flesh.”

    Since you brought your “god” and insistence of it being inflicted upon the nation in a THEOCRATIC manner, does this mean you will begin addressing the Christian based rapists who prey upon their innocent supplicants? I do believe Florida just busted a 30 year old youth church minister for child porn. What say you here?

    POLICE YOUR PREDATORY CHRISTIAN LEADERS AND YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME DEGREE OF CREDIBILITY!!

  • NavyBlues05

    All of us speaking against your warped, bible blinded ideology are going to force you to martyr yourself upon your own cross. Tell me I’m wrong. That’s patterned behavior for all those who can’t force others to bend to authoritarian theocratic rule.

  • NoseSduf

    I hadn’t hear the word strumpet since 1947. What I got out of this is more “blame the victim.”

  • D_C_Wilson

    Hey, did you know that there are countries where women are legally forbidden to even leave their homes unless they are covered from head to toe? And the authorities there are even more uptight about sex than you are? Do you what that does to reduce the prevalence of rape in those countries?

    Nothing!

  • The Ogre

    “but what young man doesn’t already know that it’s wrong to sexually assault another person? Who is unclear that “no” means “no”?”
    Ms. Miller, I’m having a hard time grasping that you are really this stupid. The answer to your question is self-evident: “The ones that commit rapes.” As to your assertion that our so-called “permissive” society is to blame, or that *anyone* (really – not even people like you or the owners of this site, who are so blissfully hateful) should not be treated with dignity and honor because they don’t fit your right-wing WASP definition of what *you* think they should wear is ludicrous. And yes, I’m sure you’ll go look me up and find out that I’m a leftist/queer/atheist/fat-guy and use that to discount my words – but that will not change the fact that You.Are.Wrong. The people who commit rapes are the *only* people responsible for those acts, and it is *their* worldview that needs to change.

  • Jonas Grumby

    Only a knuckle dragging sub-human thinks that “no” means ANYTHING but “no”.

    So I guess this means that you are advocating the burka? Please do us a favor and get a blood test to see if you are a human being.

  • eyelashviper

    Wow, the censorship here is thick….not liking a real dialogue, huh?

    • Cyn

      ZAP! Now you see it…now you don’t.

      It’s crazy!

  • MynameisBlarney

    Hi, card carryin’ godless heathen here. *waves*
    A few things…
    Godlessness huh? What about all those pedo priests diddling kids in their congregations?
    Why do you hate your own gender?
    And why in your deities name do you listen to that misogynistic pervert Limbaugh?
    That fact alone invalidates any further argument you might attempt.

    All your ridiculous article is, is a really ham-handed attempt to sell your patriarchal religion.

    LOL

    • WhoremonalCrazyLotusSlugalo

      Hi Blarney! I up voted your comment before I read it… then I read it and I was right!

      • MynameisBlarney

        Hiyas! Thanks!

  • eyelashviper

    Proud “Strumpet’ here…do I have to wear an “S” on my chest, and bring a body guard to go out in public ???
    Please advise, just trying to keep up with the Gawdwits of our times.

    • kissyface

      no you just need to wear a burka, otherwise you are asking for it

      • eeyore

        Since I’m an animal, I guess I’m not eligible…always this human-centric bias….

        • kissyface

          oh poor eeyore, i’ll make you an eeyore shaped burka so you can join us strumpets

    • MynameisBlarney

      hiya!
      Godless heathen here! Nice ta meetcha!

      • eyelashviper

        Join the Strumpets of the World Association….growing in numbers by the second.

        • MynameisBlarney

          Woot!

  • IslandTyger

    I presume you live in a tar paper shack in order to prevent your home from being burglarized, right?

    • MynameisBlarney

      She must drive around in an old beater toyota pickup so it won’t get stolen.

  • Cyn

    Is that why all these “Pastors” and “Youth Pastors”, are raping kids – the kids go to these churches dressed like “strumpets”?

  • kissyface

    this article is nothing but victim shaming drivel. women have a right to go to parties without a rapist drugging their drinks. women have a right to go to bars without someone drugging their drinks. women have a right to wear anything they choose without getting raped. rape is about power and control. rapist rape people of all ages. this article disgusts me

  • eyelashviper

    Strumpets of the World, Unite!!!!
    We have nothing to lose but our push up bras!!!!

    • kissyface

      ooooh take it off baby

  • Thomas Klausen

    There’s a “blame the victim” mentality today because people like this columnist blame the victim. This much should be obvious.

    Being a man, I find the idea that women should dress and behave in ways so as not to unwittingly inflame my XY chromosome rather offensive. The clear implication is that men are drooling half-wits controlled by nothing but their ids, and how insulting is that? “can it be argued that a woman dressed like a strumpet, yet saying “no” to unwanted sexual advances, sends a mixed message?” No, it bloody well can’t. No is not a mixed message. And it doesn’t matter if the woman saying it is wearing a burka or her birthday suit.

    • kissyface

      thank you

  • CandaceTX

    Yeah, those religious countries where women cover themselves from head to toe? Those women don’t have to worry about rape…oh, wait.

    • Marita

      I think Gina is advocating for the extra step in modesty. Anything less than a Hazmat Suit is apparently indecent.

  • CandaceTX

    Putting god back in schools will protect women from rape, the same way having god in churches protected all of those kids.

  • kissyface

    Gina why are you wiping out all of Nancy’s posts? do you not believe in freedom of speech?

  • eyelashviper

    Supporting this theory, of course, and showing that modesty and godliness are what is needed from women, we have the fact that no nuns have every been raped….oh, wait, hmmmmmm…

  • MsBJns

    Gina, this is the 21st Century, not the 14th. Strumpets? Really? When will you stop blaming women for rape? Because no matter how you try to explain yourself, you actually do when you say something like this:

    “There again, can it be argued that a woman dressed like a strumpet, yet
    saying ‘no’ to unwanted sexual advances, sends a mixed message?”

    Rape is not about sex, it’s about power and control over a woman. It doesn’t matter how conservative she dresses, if she runs into a man that wants control over her, for whatever he sees in her, he may try to take it if she doesn’t willingly give it up. What about a teenager who gets gang raped at a party, was it her outfit that caused that or should we maybe make it our mission to teach MALES from the time they can understand, that women are human beings deserving to be more than a playpen for a males desires or control?

    If you don’t support your sisters unconditionally when it comes to rape and stop slut shaming them, then you need to turn in your Vagina, because you don’t deserve to have one..

  • eyelashviper

    Sheesh, can’t take the consequences of writing such drivel…modding posts, banning comments…pretty sad little website here, and even sadder article and author…
    PLEASE BAN ME…

  • cognachas4paws

    Stop blaming the victim. Rape is about violence and power – it has nothing to do with what someone is wearing.

    • The Dead Dude

      I LOL’d at the Gary dude on RawStory going crazy about his tutti fruitti 16 buddy offing himself. LMAO!

    • The Dead Dude

      I lol’d at Gary on RS! That was funny his friend died.

  • majorwiblit

    If there are gawd-less heathens here,,, then I’ve landed in the right place…

    • eyelashviper

      Welcome, you’ve arrived just in time…

      • majorwiblit

        do they have cookies??
        other places have cookies…

        • eyelashviper

          Saw a pile of stale cheetos in the corner, with a sign “reserved for trolls”…

          • majorwiblit

            lol,,
            well,, I’m no troll…
            but nancy told me to come on over,,and ck it out…

          • eyelashviper

            shulda been clearer, by troll, I always mean those factless, feckless, reich wing god smoochers…

  • Rod

    “…but why is it considered just fine for a
    woman to present herself in a hyper-sexual, sleazy way and then expect
    men to treat her with the dignity and honor she imagines she deserves?
    The disconnect from reason is palpable.”

    Indeed it is. Women don’t necessarily expect to be treated with “dignity and honor” – they’re not all the Queen of England. What they expect, and what anyone should minimally expect, is not to be violently assaulted. Are you really saying women must avoid attracting attention to themselves in order to avoid being raped?

    • eyelashviper

      Yep, that’s what she said.

  • CandaceTX

    Is it weird that the whole time while reading this article, in my head all I heard was
    “bow-chicka-baw-baw”

    • NavyBlues05

      LOL!! Explains the track that playing through mine as I tried to digest this drivel.

  • majorwiblit

    I ask no favors for my sex…. All I ask of our brethren is that they will take their feet from off our necks. ~Sarah Moore Grimké

  • OldCrank VAGINA!!!

    Uh…up until the early 20th century, only strumpets wore lipstick in public.

  • majorwiblit

    Being a woman is a terribly difficult task, since it consists principally in dealing with men. ~Joseph Conrad

  • tes

    Darn right and I say nudity for all.

  • majorwiblit

    never heard the word “strumpet”
    is that like a trombone, or trumpet,, with a trollop???

    • eyelashviper

      tea and strumpets? Happens at 4 oclock in England???

      • WhoremonalCrazyLotusSlugalo

        I love tea and strumpets!

  • MsBJns

    Well, my first post got deleted. I guess constructive criticism is not Christian, or maybe saying Vagina is an affront to someone’s Christian principles and considered vulgarity? Or maybe I just asked some questions that someone couldn’t come up with an answer to?

    • Ann Watson

      I’ll do it for you, see above.

  • WhoremonalCrazyLotusSlugalo

    K Gina, I was 6. I know, I know trollop that I must have been…I sure as heck did something that was too sexy for a 31 year old man to resist.

    If you think rape won’t happen to you because you wear pink lipstick, frumpy hair styles, never drink an ounce of liquor and pray, you’re terribly misguided and operating in a way that makes you more vulnerable….what’s worse is you teach young girls that they are safe from rape if they follow some arbitrary distinction between “looks nice” and “rape-worthy”.

    That.
    Is.
    A.
    LIE.

  • eyelashviper

    So what happened to the defenders of this silly conglomeration of delusional verbage????

    • MynameisBlarney

      They all had to go to the doctor. Sudden outbreak of butthurt.

      • eyelashviper

        yep, and highly contagious in the dimwitted population.

  • CandaceTX

    Asking seriously (to the author)
    If you were on a jury for someone who raped a prostitute (proven by witnesses, DNA). Would you find them guilty?

    • MsBJns

      Well, was she dressed like a Strumpet that sent mixed messages to her rapist? That’s the important question here.

      • tes

        I’m still pretty sure I had a strumpet for breakfast this morning. Should I not tell my girlfriend?

        • CandaceTX

          you + girlfriend + strumpet… threesome?

          • eyelashviper

            best served with fresh honey and cream…

    • eeyore

      Yes. A sex worker could be raped like any other person. A person’s occupation does not negate the crime. [though I am not the author]

  • majorwiblit

    do they celebrate 4:20 around here??
    it is friday ya know???

  • WhoremonalCrazyLotusSlugalo

    As with CandaceTX’s question: What about a woman who is feeling ill in the middle of sex an decides that now isn’t the time but hubs keeps on going… is that rape?

  • majorwiblit

    oh come on,,,approve it,,,
    all these sites are never any fun,,, all doom and gloom…

  • tes

    Maybe some interesting points but anyone who puts any credence in Rush Limbaugh is using the worst source for information and the whole idea “taking God out of school” is ludicrous and unconstitutional.
    Anyone who espouses such stupidity, blames the victim and the “left” doesn’t can’t be taken seriously. Rape culture is also found in sober, conservative “Christian” colleges.

  • LeopoldvonRanke

    Oy vey.

  • helligusvart

    The emotionalism here is unbelievable. Would that Gina’s critics be able to engage in rational thought, rather than posting out of their fears. They are accusing her of things she never said and can’t seem to understand what she did say.

    • NavyBlues05

      I’m accusing her of interjecting her religion into a reprehensible act as if it’s the magical fix. Her summation negated ANY point she was struggling to make. It was like trying to digest the circular logic Maggie Gallagher dishes out.

    • WhoremonalCrazyLotusSlugalo

      Yes, we should totally be untouched and without compassion and empathy when discussing a man prying open a stranger’s legs to shove himself into her because…lipstick. Sick.

      • helligusvart

        Still haven’t taken your meds, huh?

        • WhoremonalCrazyLotusSlugalo

          Lame.

    • CandaceTX

      I think my posts here have been pretty rational, and no one has yet to respond. I welcome the back and forth.

    • eyelashviper

      We all read her responses to rational and thoughtful disagreement, and after a while, it is useless to argue with a chair. Hence cometh the humor, satire, and finally, disdain for the lack of critical analysis, and the resorting to deleting of comments and banning of those commenting..
      Pathetic.

    • tes

      The main emotion I feel and see is humor, the only thing this silliness deserves. A number of posters have posed serious, thoughtful questions and responses only to be banned. So yeah, let’s laugh in the face of ignorance.

    • MsBJns

      I am more than willing to engage in rational thought. I just won’t bring religion and how a woman dresses into a discussion on rape, because neither one has anything to do with it.

    • eeyore

      When a hundred people read something you wrote, and all believe it said “x,” then be sure your belief that it really said “y” is based on an incorrect memory, or a weakness of craft. Just as the crime of rape cannot be blamed on the victim, comprehension of the written text cannot be “blamed” on the reader.

      If Gina’s article does not say what she intended it to say, then perhaps it were best withdrawn and edited.

      • helligusvart

        A majority does not make something right. The reason most posters here are attacking Gina is that they’re feminazi trolls who can’t think straight as a result. Liberalism is a mental illness. Nowhere is this more clear than on this thread.

        • eeyore

          Helligusvart, you crack me up. Your faith is so shallow, you cannot restrain yourself from abandoning its tenets and leaping to puerile plagiarized insults over and over again.

          You’ve confused moral belief with product evaluation. Perhaps you do not read well. While it’s accepted that scientific truth or moral decency are not validated by popularity of opinion, in matters of simple phenomenal perception your argument is not simply weak, it is foolish. When a hundred perceive a simple object to be one thing, and one sees it to be another, there is indeed an overwhelming likelihood that the one has misperceived it.

          You angrily cry out that Liberalism is a mental illness? Merriam Webster states that Liberalism is the “political and economic doctrine that emphasizes the rights and freedoms of the individual and the need to limit the powers of government.” If this is a mental illness to you, then your values are twisted from those traditionally seen as normal in western post-enlightenment civilization.

          Barking without sense like some mad dog does not make you right, and it will not make those who disagree with you go away. It does, however, make you appear senseless and mad.

  • CandaceTX

    “Yes, we know that a man who sexually assaults a woman is always wrong…”

    Thus rendering everything that preceded and followed those words completely and totally irrelevant.

    • NavyBlues05

      BINGO!!

  • Landsurveyor

    “But, there will be no shifting of any rape culture by throwing money at
    more “rape culture awareness,” or telling young men that it’s wrong to
    rape, or holding colleges accountable, or not “blaming the victim.” [because] Our
    nation has turned its back on God.”

    You’re a pig

    • tes

      Those good Christians never rape anyone, right?

      • Landsurveyor

        NPR has been doing a good job covering college rape. At some
        universities the men are participating in awareness programs which
        include breaking traditional “casual” predator behavior in peer groups. In other words, they are calling out “trophy hunters” and monitoring “cornering of females” who are outnumbered my males.

        And they’re doing it WITHOUT GOD THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

        • tes

          NPR usually does an excellent job on everything. I was going to post a list of rapes at Christian schools but too lazy.

    • tes

      Oh yes, I forgot to mention, please don’t insult pigs.

  • eyelashviper

    Don’t you people get it…??
    Strumpets not wearing chastity belts, iron clad burkas, and metal mesh bras are asking for it!!!!!!
    /s

    • Ann Watson

      S&M?

      • MynameisBlarney

        *raises hand*

        Yes please, MIstress!

        • Ann Watson

          Get in line!

          • MynameisBlarney

            Yes Mistress!

  • Grizzly Adams

    “Why is it considered just fine for a woman to present herself in a hyper-sexual, sleazy way and then expect men to treat her with the dignity and honor she imagines she deserves?”…For starters because free expression is a right, and because contrary to what you believe, we men are perfectly capable of understanding what “no” means…Ms. Miller obviously thinks the Hijab should be worn by everybody and men are nothing more than animals…what an insult to both men and women…just sayin

  • majorwiblit

    well,,, this place is no fun… but I will bookmark it when I feel the need
    to talk about gawd… and stuff…

    My whole life,, NO, has meant, NO,, WTF is the problem??

    • nancy/still hopeful

      good to see you!

      • majorwiblit

        and back and forth we go,, lol

  • kissyface

    do you think we hurt her feelings??

    • MsBJns

      What feelings? She’s slut shaming women and bringing in God, or the lack of God in this country to justify it. You see, if we all accept God in our lives, bring back prayer in school, the 10 Commandments in our government buildings,rule by the Bible, not the Constitution, then rapists will stop raping. God is better than Salt Peter or Castration.

  • majorwiblit

    lol,,,,,
    you’re not wearing fire engine red lipstick are you?????

  • WhoremonalCrazyLotusSlugalo

    Oh YAY! Was saying, it’s nice to see you. Brilliant as ever!

  • kissyface

    lol… i hope so… she is twisted

  • helligusvart

    I’m trying to respond to nancy/still hopeful and the site is not letting me do this. My response is that it is the height of dishonesty to accuse Gina of claiming that women ask to be raped because they wear lipstick, which is what WhoremonalCrazyLotusSlugalo claimed in her post. My response is just.

    • kissyface

      you are vile

      • helligusvart

        I hope you find healing. This is my last response to you.

        • kissyface

          you are the one who needs healing and to stay away from women since you don’t respect them

        • eyelashviper

          Is that a promise?

        • eeyore

          I suspect you would find it easier to reply to Nancy had her posts not been summarily deleted by the local moderator.

      • RCQ_92130

        better vile than repugnant.

        • MynameisBlarney

          LOL
          You’re a bloody moron.

    • MsBJns

      Gina SAID, a woman is sending “mixed signals” to men by dressing like strumpets. Which means, if they didn’t want sex, they should STOP INVITING IT BY THE CLOTHES THEY WEAR. That’s clearly what she said. Tell her to stop sending in her Word Guard, she should be able to defend her own words, if she can’t do that, then maybe she should ask God why he allowed her to spout such vile drivel.

    • FieryLocks

      If you’re trying to respond to nancy/still hopeful and can’t, blame the author/moderator of this pathetic victim blaming article for banning dissenting posters.

      • kissyface

        don’t talk to him, he will just tell you that you are overly emotional or a liar

    • MsBJns

      That was just a person taking what Gina wrote and making a mockery out of it. Do you take what everyone says literally? I doubt you or Gina take what the Bible says literally, otherwise Gina would be a stay at home mother, having babies till her Uterus fell out and serving some man and not having any kind of career for herself.

      • helligusvart

        Again the slanders. And yes, I take the Bible literally.

  • majorwiblit

    Put Gawd back in schools!!, and keep sex where it belongs,,
    in the back of the 73′ Camaro

  • FieryLocks

    Moderating comments before posting…what cowards

    • RCQ_92130

      Yeah, I know. It must be so vexing for you to sully your locks visiting this site. Since we ALL like and admire you, and wish for you to not be so vexed, we offer to suck it up and live without your witty comments – so you can live your pristine life without being so sullied.

      • MynameisBlarney

        Derp.

      • FieryLocks

        Y A W N !

  • majorwiblit

    Friday Nite,,, alone again??go to “Strumpets Mingle d0t c0m
    ask for clara…

    • RCQ_92130

      too many pop-up ads

  • Geezer

    If you’re proposing that only Jesus can transform our sick society, then why do I hear, practically every day, about yet another pervy so-called Christian using women, men, and even children as if they were his personal sex toys? Christian culture is just as sick as any other segment of society, if not MUCH more so, and if you haven’t noticed that by now, I’m astonished by your tunnel vision.

    BTW, dressing provocatively means “look at me,” not “rape me.”

    • eyelashviper

      Hi Geezer, welcome to the site of Perpetual Pity and Slut Shaming….
      lotsa banning of comments, and wailing about being misunderstood, after posting inane articles…

      • Geezer

        Just curious–is this author associated with some MRA group?

        • eyelashviper

          If not now, an invitation is in the email….

        • FieryLocks

          Either that or a major groupie

          • Geezer

            Ick! That’s it. I lost my appetite.

        • kissyface

          she may just be sexually repressed

          • Ann Watson

            Deprived!

        • Greta42

          Geezer, why does he/she assume you’re a male?

          • Ann Watson

            Wishful thinking.

          • Geezer

            Hey, I admit I have a gender-misleading user name. Shhh, though, it’s kinda fun!

    • RCQ_92130

      Perhaps given you live salivating every moment of every day for more ‘pervy stuff’ and are immersed in a pervy-universe, you heard about Christians who fail because it makes you angry and jealous when they have even a smidgen of pervy-success. Come on – allow others to have a tiny bit of pervy-stuff. you will still have a corner on the market and unquestioned expert ranking in the world of pervy. Your pervy standing won’t be questioned or threatened. Relax.

      • Geezer

        I see the word “pervy” really sent you off the rails. I wonder why.

        • RCQ_92130

          Because you are such a LibIdiot to have even used it …

          But, geezer, neither I nor any of the other sane people here are “off the rails” … certainly not because of anything you said, did, could ever say, or would ever do. “Off the rails” is strictly the prerogative of folks like YOU, pallie.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Libidiots?
            Really? Did you make that one up all by your lonesome? Or did you have your parents help?

        • Ann Watson

          Hear some heavy breathing?

          • RCQ_92130

            Yep. Geezer ALWAYS gets a thrill up his near-wasted-away leg when he hears or speaks the word “pervy”.

          • Ann Watson

            You’ve got a thing for him!

          • RCQ_92130

            Oh, yes. And I must be a closeted homosexual.

            God, LibIdiots are really Olympian class idiots!

          • Geezer

            Sweetheart, you’re the one who latched onto that one word and then acted really, really weird with it. C’mon, admit it. It spoke to you.

          • Geezer

            I think he’s typing one-handed. He’s REALLY getting off on it.

          • Ann Watson

            I thought his writing was a bit screwy.

      • Greta42

        Holy cow RCQ! You can’t write a sentence without calling someone pervy. Rather fixated on that – what’s that all about?

      • eyelashviper

        Normally,. this jibberish could be consigned to the pile of blithering idiot effluence, but in this case, it does not even rise to the blithering, idiot, or jibberish level

        • RCQ_92130

          I would be DELIGHTED for you to take my comment home. Might, over time, actually help you out. Or not (don’t really care all that much).

          • eyelashviper

            You flatter yourself….your view of “enlightenment” is subterranean.

          • RCQ_92130

            Well, subterranean is a wonderful thing for you to strive for. I applaud your lofty goals!

          • eyelashviper

            Are you 9?
            So far, you have not impressed anyone with anything other than your badly written hyperbole, insults, and other basura.

  • FieryLocks

    @nancy/still hopeful

    I just posted a comment below with a link in it and it’s ‘awaiting
    moderation’. It’s the link to the very long list of right wing, family
    values Christians that have raped, molested and assaulted children,
    teens and women. My comment also pointed out how this article is right
    up there with the priest that said church abuse victims are responsible
    for their rapes because they ‘seduced’ their abusers.

    I’m sure that post won’t see the light of day on this joke of a website.

    • RCQ_92130

      Most likely you, being a LibLunatic, either will not understand this or will find it impossible to remember, what with all the anger, bitterness and hate rattling around in that little red wagon you call your brain …

      but …..

      if you type xyz dot com instead of using the actual period (instead of “dot”) there will be no need to ‘wait for moderation

      • MynameisBlarney

        You really suck at insulting people.

        • Geezer

          And it’s all he does! Go figure.

      • FieryLocks

        So childish name calling is all you have? I feel sorry for you. How pathetic.

  • majorwiblit

    I think someone needs to turn the WonderWand off and get out more,,,
    just saying,,, trying to help..

  • FieryLocks

    I guess the Virgin Mary is partly responsible for god raping and impregnating her, whether she liked it or not. She must have been sending god ‘mixed signals’ with all her prayers, piety, and long body covering robes.

    This is exactly where all this vile victim blaming stems from, women hating religion. In the Bible, rape victims are forced to marry their rapists, a woman who is not a virgin can be stoned to death, women are property, women are to be subservient to men, women are to shut up and be silent or else.

    • Ann Watson

      She said “Jacob’s not up to much, can’t you do any better?”.

  • Hoohah Comics

    I have to agree. The other morn I was traipsing in my horseless carriage, and I saw a woman showing her ankles! This sight filled me with such stirrings that I wanted to leap from my conveyance and mount her! Strumpet indeed!

    • MynameisBlarney

      Verily, for I too saw her and my loins did indeed stir.

  • Grizzly Adams

    This lady’s use of the word “strumpet” pretty much tells you what century she’s operating in…just sayin’

  • Ann Watson

    Outrageous fashions – dungarees?

    • WhoremonalCrazyLotusSlugalo

      I’m wearing dungarees right now. And a cute t-shirt. Lipstick. I’m totes asking for it.

      • Ann Watson

        Like I said – outrageous!

  • majorwiblit

    she’s a radio/television voice professional???
    did she do the Geico commercials??

    • RCQ_92130

      Progressive Insurance

  • MsBJns

    How very Christian of the mods on this site to totally erase posts which are not profane, calling for violence, racist, or even discourteous (which is apparently subjective) but making statement of fact or asking questions.

    I feel sorry for people who are so devoid of christianity, while espousing to be Christian. God doesn’t think much of them either. That’s why He plainly said, when He comes again, not all who say they believe in Him will find their place with Him.

    • WhoremonalCrazyLotusSlugalo

      Evidently, “subjective” is the word of the day, here. There are clothes that are harlot-couture and then there’s FrannyFrump who will never be raped as long as she makes herself appear as un-fetching as possible. Where we draw that distinction, however, is up for debate, obvi.

    • http://www.thegopwaronwomen.com Helen Wheels

      If the mods are reichwingers you can bet anything a reichwinger says, no matter how vile or violent, will not be removed.

  • Roger Rabbitleg

    Based on this woman’s logic, anything short of a chastity belt is “asking for it”

    • http://www.thegopwaronwomen.com Helen Wheels

      Apparently a burka is asking for it since women wearing them are also raped.

  • Ann Watson

    I say VAGINA!

    • majorwiblit

      X2

  • Geezer

    Hey Gina, before you went spouting off about how dressing provocatively leads to rape, you really should have taken a little trip through Google Land. It’s a myth. You’re perpetuating a lie.

    • RCQ_92130

      You are reading impaired. She didn’t say that; if you ask your better half to explain it I’m betting you can figure it out.

      She said ~~~ dressing like a slut makes bad things more likely, just as walking near the bushes and/or dark areas at night does. She said ~~~ take responsibility for your own welfare and protect yourself … part of which is to not draw the WRONG kind of attention to yourself. Because, though LibIdiots do not like to see the world that actually exists ….. there ARE bad people out there, and AVOIDING them helps to not BECOME a victim of such people. Kind of like not walking in Ferguson at night carrying a “I love cops” placard on your back.

      I know, I know – that’s awfully complicated for you … and just SMACKS of you having to actually take some responsibility for your life (ergggggggg !!!!!!), but, again, ask Maude to explain. I am CONFIDENT you can pull it all together!

      • Judibluiz

        What you and Ms. Miller fail to understand is rape is not about sex. Rape is about power and control. Rapists don’t choose their victims on how they are dressed, nor do they choose them for their physical attributes.

        • RCQ_92130

          And THAT sure argues in favor of not minimizing risks! Good catch.

          Geesh.

          • Judibluiz

            And what is that supposed to mean?

          • MynameisBlarney

            He/she likely has no idea either.

          • Judibluiz

            I think you’re right.

          • MynameisBlarney

            You have achieved full Derp.
            Congratulations.

      • Geezer

        “She said dressing like a slut makes bad things more likely.” Who’s the one with the reading comprehension problem here? I said it was a myth. Evidently that makes you so uncomfortable that it just whooshed over your head.

        • RCQ_92130

          Yep. Walking near bushes at night? A MYTH I TELL YA! Go ahead – walk IN the bushes – it’s all a right wing tea baggette lie!

          Geesh.

          • Geezer

            You’re making such a great case for Christianity. Please continue, Governor.

          • eyelashviper

            Walking near bushes at night…???
            Yeah, we all fear such…..and ignorance such as yours…the real danger to a civilized world.

          • eeyore

            RCQ…such cute angel wings and halo…tell me why when I read the news, the rapists I see photographed in the articles about sexual assault and pederasty are so often officers of your church? Gina wants us to return to the church…is she actually pimping for you predators?

          • RCQ_92130

            What church is it you imagine is “my” church ???

            Oh – and just FYI: the by far largest PERCENTAGE, per capita, of pedophiles are either open or closeted homosexuals (adult males with a penchant for destroying the lives of young boys).

            Now, anticipating you will not have decent reading skills, that does not mean MOST pedophiles are homosexuals. Since only 2.6% of the population are gay, even the horrific RATE of pedophilia among gays still leaves them with elss than 1/3 of all child molestations.

          • Judibluiz

            Wrong. If you are going to make statements like that, then you had better have the data to back it up, and you can’t.

          • eeyore

            The “Christian” Church, RCQ. I use quotes because the den of trolls that calls itself “Christian” today has little care for the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth; just look at the hate you’ve spewed here tonight for an example.
            Your lie that most pedophiles are homosexuals is contrary to statistics, though, as a member of this “Christian” church you may know more pedophiles than I have ever heard of.

          • eyelashviper

            mendacious twaddle.

          • majorwiblit

            waiting for the “farm animals” reference..

          • eyelashviper

            coming soon, yet to hear the “feminazi”, gaydoods, etc…
            then a complete meltdown, with flagging, whining, and shrieking before imploding.

          • Geezer

            After all, he’s the real victim here.

          • Geezer

            Ooh, more lies. Gonna give us a link to some balderdash article from the Family Research Council?

          • Malfouka Malfouka

            That is not true but hatred of gay men and hatred of women go, as they say, hand-in-hand.

          • WhoremonalCrazyLotusSlugalo

            I have flat out peed in bushes at night while drunk and a teen with boys present. Guess what those good guys didn’t do! Rape me. HUH! Whuuu???

          • RCQ_92130

            A 12-year old friend held his father’s loaded gun, and no one got shot. See – no reason to lock guns away.

          • MynameisBlarney

            You not only suck at insults, but analogies as well.
            Kudos.

      • Malfouka Malfouka

        First of all, there is no such thing as a “slut,” it’s merely a not-so-clever language devise used to police and shame (generally) women. Secondly, I could walk drunk down the street at 3.00 AM wearing nothing but my Birkenstocks and a smile and I STILL wouldn’t be asking to be raped.

        • RCQ_92130

          This English language thing must be really, really confusing to those in the far, uber left.

          No one, other than LibIdiots, said anyone was ASKING to be raped. Where do LibIdiots get such notions?

          • WhoremonalCrazyLotusSlugalo

            Yes, you have to be “far uber left” to see that a pretty girl in a pretty dress doesn’t magically turn an otherwise fine, upstanding young man into a rapist.

          • RCQ_92130

            OH. OK. Then the pretty girl in a pretty dress should spend every evening alone in the worst section of town … because, hey – if anything bad DOES happen, it won;t be her fault, and that will make it all OK.

          • WhoremonalCrazyLotusSlugalo

            You think a girl in an ugly dress WON’T get raped?

          • RCQ_92130

            God. How can anyone converse with someone who can’t see past her on twisted eyesight.

            It’s about minimizing RISK, not shifting blame.

            Geesh.

          • WhoremonalCrazyLotusSlugalo

            Really? I can’t relate at all. LOL! Runner up for spot #2 of the most ironic posts of the day.

          • MynameisBlarney

            WTF is wrong with you?

          • eyelashviper

            The levels of wrongness would confound Freud, and most psychiatrists living today..

          • Malfouka Malfouka

            Well, when folks go on and on about what a woman wears and the places she goes as reasons to basically excuse rape, the yes, you ARE saying certain women and girls are asking to be raped. Your obtuseness is only outweighed by your faulty arguments.

          • RCQ_92130

            WHO, exactly, said anything ‘excuses rape”.

            You are so consumed with your hate you can’t even keep straight what others say and do. You only see the hate you so want to see.

          • Malfouka Malfouka

            You have a strange notion of what being “consumed by…hate” means. But I guess if you’ve got nothing else, making stuff up works well for you.

          • eyelashviper

            Based on his comments here, I’d say he has a strong case of projection.

          • Geezer

            Dangit! Jinx!

          • http://www.thegopwaronwomen.com Helen Wheels

            You really do have a serious reading comprehension problem.

          • RCQ_92130

            Were you not so all-consumed by your radical lesbian hate agenda, you might have actually FINISHED high school and understood things said are things said …. not things imagined are things said.

      • WhoremonalCrazyLotusSlugalo

        No. Bad decisions don’t cause rape. Know what does? Rapists. That’s it. There’s nothing else.

        • eyelashviper

          Bingo…

        • RCQ_92130

          Idiots on parade. Geesh. How do such people even manage to figure out how to draw in breath?

          • majorwiblit

            Commenting Tip of the Day #137,, You can save yourself a lot of trouble and effort. Next time just put “I’m an idiot”. Saves time.

          • RCQ_92130

            But …. I’m not in your non-graduating class, Bucky.

          • WhoremonalCrazyLotusSlugalo

            Or go with just flinging insults & hope that no one will figure out (s)he has nothing else.

          • WhoremonalCrazyLotusSlugalo

            So that’s your response? That’s all you’ve got is insults? Come on. Give me something to work with here.

          • RCQ_92130

            “Cause”. THAT is where you are oh so blind.

            No one other than idiots has claimed taking risks CAUSES anything other than hightened risk. Similarly, no one said any one other than the rapist is at fault for the rape.

            How on earth does it not cluster up in your brain that even though you are not the CAUSE of a rape, taking avoidable risks is still stupid?

          • WhoremonalCrazyLotusSlugalo

            So let me see if I get this straight… we must to educate women on how we need to organize our lives so as not to be attractive to rapists, but educating boys and men about NOT RAPING is never going to work? That about right? Oh and, BTW, if there are ways for women to actually prevent someone from tainting their soda, water, juice, margarita…that’s a “no” because….? Because it doesn’t require subjugating her? Because she can still dance, drink, wear what makes her feel confident, comfortable and happy? Heaven forbid.

          • RCQ_92130

            I’ll simplify it for you.

            EVERYONE – not just women – need to take sensible steps to protect themselves. Don’t brandisjh a toy pistol in an airport. Don’t tell bikers they are puzzies. Don’t joke with the TSA agent about having a bomb.

            Take reasonable steps to protect yourself. Admit there ARE bad people out there and do what you can to not become prey.

            Not all that complicated.

          • eeyore

            You shame the one you call your Lord, with your vile insults, hurled left and right at people you do not even know. You degrade what you seek to promote.

          • RCQ_92130

            Given you deny God’s existence, I fail to see how that might be any of your concern.

          • eeyore

            What do you know of me? Where have I denied this? You judge me without evidence, and your Bible forbids: Matthew 7:1. Every sentence you write condemns you more.

          • Geezer

            He’s the amazing Jump to Unfounded Conclusions Man! He deflects at the speed of sound! He spews hatred, bile, and venom in the name of Christ!

          • MynameisBlarney

            How very xtian of you.

          • Geezer

            He thinks he has the power to read minds, too. Wait–isn’t that witchcraft?!?

          • MynameisBlarney

            It IS indeed!
            That calls for a good stoning!

          • Haruko Haruhara

            Hai, Brak!

          • MynameisBlarney

            Greeting and Salutations Haruko!

          • http://www.thegopwaronwomen.com Helen Wheels

            So now people who don’t believe in god should be raped?

          • RCQ_92130

            Heck – I have so little concern for whatever happens to you I could never quantify it.

            But YOU are caring and always strive for the safety of all — especially when you advocate women engage in risky practices. no doubt you also tell women using condoms is a violation of their rights.

            Nice, you LibIdiots.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Got no counter to her point, so you resort to insults.
            I’m shocked. SHOCKED I SAY!

      • eyelashviper

        that you, Gina vaGina?

        • Geezer

          Maybe it’s her more-evil twin.

      • Judibluiz

        I believe you are reading impaired She said and I quote “Do they bear no responsibility for the outrageous “fashions” they choose to wear nowadays, clothing that makes them look like prostitutes and porn “stars,” clothing that arguably feeds the “rape culture”?”

        • RCQ_92130

          Yep. But that is a far, far cry from claiming someone – dressed like a hooker or not – is responsible for getting raped. Even PROSTITUTES have the right to not get raped.

          Or do you think they should be raped?

          • Judibluiz

            Maybe if I speak slowly. CLOTHING. THAT. ARGUABLY. FEEDS.THE. RAPE .CULTURE.

          • Geezer

            I’m convinced that guy is functionally brain dead. It’s a miracle that he’s able to type using only his limbic system.

          • RCQ_92130

            I know it’s asking a lot, but could for for just a moment muster a smidgen of honesty.

            Read the paragraph in context, not just the out-of-context snippet you seized upon to prop up your false argument.

            Nah. No doubt it’s too much effort for you to actually be honest. Never mind.

      • Haruko Haruhara

        But, it’s kinda like saying “wearing a hoodie will get you shot in Florida…”

        • RCQ_92130

          I partially agree with you.

          Let’s pretend, just for the moment, Trayvon was NOT a thug; that he DIDN’T jump Zimmerman and pound him; that Trayvon DIDN’T go for the gun … and let’s pretend Zimmerman WAS white (THAT was inconvenient, huh!) ..

          And so, let’s pretend Zimmeriman shot & killed Trayvon simply because he was wearing a hoodie. Just pretend and follow along.

          And let’s FURTHER pretend that meanie white folk were shooting and killing black people by the dozens every night whenever they wore hoodies.

          OK?

          Now – if all of THAT were the case, then I would strongly encourage people NOT to go out at night wearing a hoodie. Of course, it’s their RIGHT to wear whatever they want, and wearing a hoodie does not make them at fault when they get shot ..

          But it sure would be stupid to do if wearing a hoodie WAS likely to get you shot.

          So in THAT scenario, I’d agree with you.

          • http://www.thegopwaronwomen.com Helen Wheels

            Let’s pretend Trayvon was NOT a thug?

            Well.. he wasn’t. Also, I guess you missed the message that most people have figured out that “thug” is you and your reichwing pals’ code word for the “N” word… so … when you toss it around willy-nilly, just be aware that you are really calling black males the “N” word. K?

          • RCQ_92130

            Oh – that’s right. The world is what YOU declare it to be. Forget those pesky facts and stuff. Just ask a LibIdiot.

            Nah. I still prefer the real world. And here, in the real world, the bullies, haters and bigots of our generation are you and others of the GayGestapo.

      • Geezer

        I love it when people who completely miss my point accuse me of being reading impaired.

        • RCQ_92130

          So you are still claiming Gina said the woman who dresses provocatively is RESPONSIBLE for getting raped, huh?

          DYING for you to cut/paste where Gina said that !!!!!!!!!!

          • Geezer

            Well, gosh, I wouldn’t want you to actually die waiting. I earnestly hope I’m not too late. You weren’t holding your breath, were you?

            “Do they [women] bear no responsibility for the
            outrageous ‘fashions’ they choose to wear nowadays, clothing that makes them look like prostitutes and porn ‘stars,’ clothing that arguably feeds the ‘rape culture’?”

            If you can’t see how that’s blaming the victim, you’re even dumber than you appear. Fricking American Taliban.

          • RCQ_92130

            Being a LibIdiot, you naturally cut and paste things out of context to support an argument that is not supportable without your dishonesty. Not a one of us would expect anything more from you.

            But, lest others fall for the bull shirt false arguments you and other LibIdiots spew, here is reality (not just your snippet:

            “Do women ever bear any responsibility for putting themselves in potentially dangerous places and situations, like drunken frat parties? Do they bear no responsibility for the outrageous “fashions” they choose to wear nowadays, clothing that makes them look like prostitutes and porn “stars,” clothing that arguably feeds the “rape culture”? Yes, we know that a man who sexually assaults a woman is always wrong, but why is it considered just fine for a woman to present herself in a hyper-sexual, sleazy way and then expect men to treat her with the dignity and honor she imagines she deserves?”

            You see, oh master of dishonesty, the statement – IN CONTEXT – is about people taking reasonable steps for their own well-being, knowing there are bad people out there.

            But you keep imagining the faux world you want to imagine … LibIdiots, apparently, could not survive a moment in the real world.

      • http://www.thegopwaronwomen.com Helen Wheels

        Uh huh. Keep telling yourself that. Just like when Bill O’Reilly said that a young woman who was raped and murdered in NYC was asking for it by dressing in a short skirt to go out in the evening. We know the buzzwords and the “explanation.”

    • http://www.thegopwaronwomen.com Helen Wheels

      Of course it is. But morons need moronic things to write about in order to feel they are relevant, so here it is.

      She’s just using the FauxNoise playbook. Lie to your audience all the time and hope that the people who know the truth don’t show up and point it out.

  • majorwiblit

    FYI..

    AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — A federal judge Friday threw out new Texas abortion restrictions that would have effectively closed more than a dozen clinics in the state.

    U.S. District Judge Lee Yeakel sided with clinics that sued over one of the most disputed measures of a sweeping anti-abortion bill signed by Republican Gov. Rick Perry in 2013. The ruling stops new restrictions that would have left seven abortion facilities in Texas by Sept. 1. There are currently 19 abortion providers in the state, according to groups challenging the law.

    “The overall effect of the provisions is to create an impermissible obstacle as applied to all women seeking a previability abortion,” Yeakel wrote in his 21-page ruling.

    A good day for the women of TX,,,

    • Haruko Haruhara

      Hai, Major!

      • majorwiblit

        Hi Haru!
        hope you are good!
        pretty crazy thread here,,,lol..

        • Haruko Haruhara

          I see!

    • http://www.thegopwaronwomen.com Helen Wheels

      Most excellent news, indeed. Now the back alley butchers that the reichwinger anti-choicers would like to send women to won’t be back in business just yet.

    • Frito Pendejo

      Yep. Now it goes to the 5th Circuit, which has the reputation of being the most conservative of all the appellate courts. If they uphold Yeakel’s decision it’ll be a huge blow to TRAP laws. If they don’t, well, it’s kinda what people expect, but the women of Texas, esp. south Texas, will suffer terribly. This is big deal, folks.

  • Mike Hawk

    I found an image of Ms. Miller WEARING LIPSTICK. Lipstick is the devil’s candy, Ms. Miller.

    • Geezer

      I bet she paints her toenails, too. Strumpet.

      • Haruko Haruhara

        Hai, Geezer!

        • Geezer

          Hey sweets!

    • http://www.thegopwaronwomen.com Helen Wheels

      Why, that harlot! Lipstick is only meant for pigs, Sister Sarah told us so.

  • eyelashviper

    Peegan, they want you to put on that burqa again….

  • eyelashviper

    @peegan
    I’ll lend you one of mine, but it is lacey see thru, bikini style…

  • eyelashviper

    can’t post this link, but it is a delight…where to get your see thru sexy burqa and other such:
    strumpetsdelightdotcom

  • eyelashviper

    Here trollie, here trollie, we got some cookies for ya…..

  • eyelashviper

    @nancystillhopeful:disqus
    Wasn’t there another, very brief one, vaporized with one cognizant post. Maybe they are reconnoitering somewhere, licking their wounds and asking baby jebus to hold their hands…

  • Haruko Haruhara

    If you dressed women in nothing but burlap sacks, there will still be men out there wanting to rape them.

    • Geezer

      Evidently being an infant or 90 years old is no protection, either. But then infants and 90-year-old women are just asking for it.

      • eyelashviper

        Trollops, I tell ya, them babies givin’ ya the googly eyes….

        • Geezer

          To say nothing of the sheep, with their come-hither looks.

          • eyelashviper

            and they prance around nekkid….the horror!!!!

          • Frito Pendejo

            And soft, soft wool! The shameless strumpets have been seducing unsuspecting herders for seven or eight thousand years.

          • http://www.thegopwaronwomen.com Helen Wheels

            Reichwing Land: Where men are men, and sheep are afraid.

      • Greta42

        Yeah, it’s those come hither diapers they’re selling now for the little trollops./s

    • Frito Pendejo

      True. Strict Islamic countries where women wear the burqa or niqab have some of the highest incidence of rape in the world. Among Christians, rape is more frequent among strict denominations than the average (e.g., the Mormons).

    • http://www.thegopwaronwomen.com Helen Wheels

      It wouldn’t change rape stats one iota.

  • Red M

    I am so enraged at your idiotic column, I can hardly find the words! Next you’ll be blaming the women and children of domestic violence for provoking the anger of the men in their family. What will be the excuse if YOU, heaven forbid, should be assaulted and raped? Not ALL women raped, are dressed in a provocative way or behaving as “sluts”. And anyone who uses the PIG of a man, Rush Limbaugh as a reference, is COMPLETELY out of touch with reality!!! Putting an illegal substance in a woman’s drink for the sole purpose of VIOLATING another, has nothing to do with their dress, but a very distinct sickness of the mind! What is wrong with you??? God forbid this horrid thing ever happens to you or a woman you care about!
    You should be ashamed of yourself, Jesus would not know you or your actions!

    • Haruko Haruhara

      Like Stephen A. Smith … he said sometimes women provoke men into domestic assault.

      • http://www.thegopwaronwomen.com Helen Wheels

        Poor widdle mens just can’t help themselves. Feel sorry for them :(

      • Frito Pendejo

        Yeah, athlete culture is the most hidebound and knuckle dragging.

        One bright spot today: NFL commish Roger Goodell, after much outcry, upped 49er Aldon Smith’s suspension for domestic violence to nine games. Big press conference, letters to all the owners, official “no tolerance” policy, the whole shot. People are getting the message.

      • Malfouka Malfouka

        Don’t you understand, men are more emotionally, intellectually, physically, spiritually, and sexually more advanced than women yet somehow easily provoked beasts?!?! Women need to remember this and keep their mouths shut and their dress appropriate.
        /s

      • The Dead Dude

        They do. LOL at Gary from RS with his widdle buddy killing himself. That was funny as H!

    • http://www.thegopwaronwomen.com Helen Wheels

      Well, here’s the thing, Red. This woman is a misogynistic moron who bases everything in her life on men’s approval. She’s probably been date raped a few times and is in denial, so perhaps this makes her feel better? Who knows. One thing I’m sure of is that she’s not smart and she hates women… hell, she probably hates men, too.

  • Geezer

    Wow, TWM, they modded you right off the bat for suggesting that sheep are baaaad! They are REALLY sensitive here.

    I was gonna post this: https:// www . youtube . com/watch?v=__Vd1i10FqU

    Take out the spaces. They auto-mod direct links here.

  • Geezer

    Not yet Nancy, but “one other person is typing…”

  • http://www.thegopwaronwomen.com Helen Wheels

    Is there anything worse than a woman saying that other women deserve to be raped? Does this unbelievable moron know that women in burkas are raped just as much as women who wear less clothing? Does she even know that rape is violence, not sexual attraction? Does she think men don’t have to control themselves in society and, if so, why not?

  • http://www.thegopwaronwomen.com Helen Wheels

    If this is true, why are elderly women dressed in several layers of clothing also raped? Something isn’t computing here.

  • Joe

    It is amazing that the writers at this site are so incompetent that they couldn’t even get this argument right. Yes, the HuffPo article is absolutely absurd. Yes, Sophia Kerby is an anti-male bigot. Yes, Kerby’s bigotry comes out for the whole world to see in this article. Yes, Kerby demonstrated zero ability to think logically.

    Gina Miller was given a 1st and Goal on the one and she fumbled the ball by blaming the victim.

  • kissyface

    i can’t believe you won’t allow nancy/still hopeful to express her opinion. are you afraid she is smarter than you?

    • The Dead Dude

      She is a clown

  • kissyface

    so i got the ban too….hahaha

  • 24601

    1892 called. They want there derogatory term back.

  • Sarah Sahasbeen

    Well, that takes care of the strumpets. What about the stubas, the strombones, the stimpani, and the stambourines? What about them? Are they guilty too?

    • 24601

      The whole brass section is suspect.

      • 24601

        And did you see the percussion section shaking their tambourines?
        Scandalous!

    • Haruko Haruhara

      Strumpets sounds like something you have with tea.

      • The Dead Dude

        I LOL’d my butt off at Gary on RS about his 16 yr old friend dying. That was hilarious. You are a maude over there and I think you do a crap job. Anyway Gary was crying and going crazy because his noodle armed poodle walker kid buddy off’d himself. Gary was probably poking him LOL

  • Earley Days Yet

    This sentence alone tells me you do not have a grasp of the problem:

    “what young man doesn’t already know that it’s wrong to sexually assault another person? Who is unclear that “no” means “no”?”

    Quite a lot of men, as it happens. Look at Steubenville – not only did they apparently “not know” that it was wrong to assault that young woman, they were so off-base that they posted video celebrating even as she was being raped. Unconsciousness pretty definitively means “no”, one would think. And what happened afterwards pretty much defines “rape culture” (school protected perpetrators, community lamented the damage to the perpetrators’ long-term goals, police didn’t consider it worth investigating until Anonymous got involved) and “victim blaming” (students harassed her for damaging the chances of the boys’ football team, girls harassed her for ruining the lives/careers of the boys who pled guilty, her parents/sibling were harassed by members of the community who suggested that the fact that an underage girl got so drunk she lost consciousness might be an even MORE heinous problem than the fact that a group of students took advantage of her). Just one example, I’m sure you could find more with some basic research.

  • MynameisBlarney

    Trey, I hope you actually start following the tenets of your faith one day.
    Because right now, you’re failing at Christianity.
    I bid you a good night. It was fun…debating with you.
    Take care.

  • http://www.thegopwaronwomen.com Helen Wheels

    So… now do reichwingers want to teach “abstinence from sexy clothing” in schools?

  • http://www.thegopwaronwomen.com Helen Wheels

    Barbwire just upped their popup ads, we’re giving them too much publicity. Ditch ‘em, lefties!!

    • Kara Connor

      Dies the article distinguish between “rape culture” and “legitimate raoe culture”? FFS.

      • http://www.thegopwaronwomen.com Helen Wheels

        They apparently think there are some cases where rape is justified. Which is about as disgusting as it gets.

        • The Dead Dude

          Sometime ho’s could quit actin’ like they want it by dressin all hoochie momma though.

  • Malfouka Malfouka

    Our nation has turned its back on God. We
    have kicked Him out of our schools and out of the public square. We
    have raised several generations of Godless, self-centered, sex-obsessed
    kids, and the truth is that there can be no positive transformation of
    any sick culture without the saving power of the Spirit of God through
    Jesus Christ …

    1. Rape is NOT sex; rape uses the human sex organs as the means to humiliate, dominate, subjugate, and destroy the humanity of the victim.
    2. Much of Christianity teaches that women are under the dominance of men and are, basically, property of men. (Women, in much of Christian society, are considered less sexual than men and are tasked with maintaining a false and oppressive sexuality.)
    3. Fundamentalist Christianity encourages rape culture through insistence on male dominance and purity culture.

    Religion is the antithesis of positive transformation of society.

    Edited.

  • Geezer

    I saw your whine on Facebook about the comments here: “The liberals naturally are unable or unwilling to understand the central messages of what I wrote, and as I predicted, they accuse me of ‘blaming the victim.'”

    Quote: “Do they [women] bear no responsibility for the outrageous ‘fashions’ they choose to wear nowadays, clothing that makes them look like prostitutes and porn ‘stars,’ clothing that arguably feeds the ‘rape culture’?”

    It’s so odd that you had the nerve to write that and then brag that you “predicted” people would accuse you of blaming the victim. It’s as if you poked me in the eye and predicted it would sting. Of course it’s “blaming the victim.” There is no other intellectually honest explanation for it. And now you’re playing the victim by acting peeved that people noticed what you actually wrote.

    Passive-aggressive much?

    • Malfouka Malfouka

      Us liberals, always ruining the party…

      • Geezer

        Their pity party, you mean. “Whaddya mean, I can’t trample on other peoples’ rights and shame women into thinking it’s their fault for being raped? It’s not fair!! Waaaahhh!”

        • Malfouka Malfouka

          They truly do act like we are putting an end to the good times. It’s baffling.

    • Malfouka Malfouka

      Do they [women] bear no responsibility for the outrageous ‘fashions’ they choose to wear nowadays…

      The truly funny thing about this particular gem is that, back in the day, exposed ankles, calves, and knees were considered “outrageous fashions” and society was going to hell. It’s about policing women, nothing more.

      • Geezer

        A Handmaid’s Tale, here we come.

    • RCQ_92130

      Here, IN CONTEXT:

      “Do women ever bear any responsibility for putting themselves in potentially dangerous places and situations, like drunken frat parties? Do they bear no responsibility for the outrageous “fashions” they choose to wear nowadays, clothing that makes them look like prostitutes and porn “stars,” clothing that arguably feeds the “rape culture”? Yes, we know that a man who sexually assaults a woman is always wrong, but why is it considered just fine for a woman to present herself in a hyper-sexual, sleazy way and then expect men to treat her with the dignity and honor she imagines she deserves?”

      Pesky, that “in context” thing, especially when all you have are falsehoods, deceptions and lies.

  • Geezer

    Nancy, that means “Of course!” ;)

  • Malfouka Malfouka

    nancy/still hopeful

    their wet dream…

    No kidding. Women achieving fully actualised humanity scares these folks to death.

  • Luke DeLalio

    “Yes, we know that a man who sexually assaults a woman is always wrong, but why is it considered just fine for a woman to present herself in a hyper-sexual, sleazy way and then expect men to treat her with the dignity and honor she imagines she deserves?”

    Fine or not fine, Gina, is it ok for a man to rape a woman because of the way she is dressed? Are you saying a man can’t control himself and is allowed to rape because of what he sees? This is a ridiculous assertion.

  • Russell Sayce

    So how is this utopia through gov. thuggery working out for everyone..??

    Is it a man’s fault..?? Is it a woman’s fault..?? Is it God’s fault..?? Who is at fault, and deserving of a visit from the thugs that act the same way and worse, with impunity..?

    This seems like a fairly straight forward problem, if someone leaves a stack of hundreds on a table in a busy restaurant, while visiting the restroom, that person should expect the money to still be there upon returning, right..? And if it’s not there, the gov. thugs will make good on it, right..?

    And if you yourself happen to find an unattended roll of cash that someone was irresponsible with, you’d give it back to them, or to the gov. for safe keeping, because you know they would find the irresponsible owner and return it, right..?

    In gov. utopia, anyone who doesn’t parent correctly is punished severly (even though child rape seems to be overlooked), so why is there a rape culture..?
    Awe…who cares, as long as we keep blaming each other, the thugs are smiling, and gov. utopia lives on…

    Peace brothers and sisters…….And good luck with this one….

  • Oscar

    How dangerously naive to make a habit of going to these seedy joints, drinking (thereby losing moral judgment and brain reaction time) and dressing to entice men, but wrongly believing that some magic nail polish is going to save you from rape! Don’t forget, condoms were once thought the solution to all the problems caused by the sexual revolution, too. See how that worked out. Wowy zowy.

  • jbiot

    Gina writes approvingly:

    “In case you’re unfamiliar with Rush’s word, feminazi, that’s his term of endearment for men-hating, radical feminists.”

    I provided earlier in reply some of this Limbaugh’s other terms of “endearment” for women only to get stuck in moderation. Ironic, no? This misogynistic empty headed bag of beef who spews hatred for women and minorities 24/7 yet can’t be quoted in a comment on bw without getting moderated into oblivion.

    So Gina, since RL is your dude, ya might wanna lighten up on the moderation and let his misogyny get some air and some context.

    Afraid?

    (Btw, the implicit conflation of feminism and Nazism is not harmless hyperbole, and sure as hell not endearing.)

  • helligusvart

    I am really glad that most women in America are not like the raging feminazis trolling on this thread. God bless you, Gina.

    • Judibluiz

      What is a feminazi?

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