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Defending Homosexuality is a Tragedy Within a Tragedy

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Society has fallen in love with discourtesy, darkness, and deviancy and fails to realize that this abnormal love affair will end in death. Even some Christians defend it! It will mean death to individuals, the family, the culture, and the nation. Go visit the ruins of Sodom. I have tried to make a contribution to ameliorate the problem without much success.

The committee hearing room at the Indiana Capitol Building was packed, mostly with the media and opponents to my bill to reinstate sodomy as a crime, as it had been in Indiana for about a hundred years. My opponents all had their allotted time to oppose my bill, and one was a professor at Indiana University. He said that homosexuals “only wanted to be left alone.” I laughed.

In defense of my bill I told him that sodomy should be a crime again to give police officials authority to stop the cruising in city parks, sex in public restrooms, and discourage molesting of little boys. I ended by saying that homosexuals want much more than to be left alone. “They want respectability. They want to move into a house in the suburbs, park matching Volvos in the driveway and be accepted as normal people; but that won’t happen as long as Christians live in this state.” In recent years, homosexuals have demanded and received not only acceptance and approval, but even applause. We are told it is even commendable and courageous to practice perversion.  And even Bible-oriented church leaders have joined the chorus!

Obviously, I was wrong. Evangelical church members are leading the parade for same sex “marriage” and doing it claiming they are true followers of Christ. However, sodomy is a tragedy and Christians’ defense of that sin is a tragedy within a tragedy.

Never has so much been surrendered by so many to so few. This surrender proves that when Christians’ faith and a controversial issue are at odds, weak Christians fold. After all, one must be modern, cool, and “with it.”

It’s a fact, “The Times They Are A-Changing” (just listened to it all the way through for the first time) especially in the area of courtesy, courage, and commitment. To their credit, the Homosexual Lobby has performed an absolutely incredible coup d’état in about 20 years by changing America’s attitude about sodomy. Sodomy was defined by Noah Webster in the 1800s as a “crime against nature.” The 1833 Encyclopedia Britannica identified sodomy as “The nameless crime, which was the disgrace of Greek and Roman civilization.”

Today, one is anathematized if he even uses the words “sodomy,” “degenerate,” or “pervert.” And while “same sex marriage” was not even considered possible, even worth discussing by decent people only five years ago, one is considered unloving, unkind, uneducated, and uncivil if he advocates the quaint notion that marriage is only between a man and a woman. And he is super-quaint if he holds that marriage is for a lifetime! He may also become unemployed for his belief in biblical decency. Yes, times are a-changing.

Guide is a homosexual magazine that published a pro-pedophile editorial in its July, 1995 issue. It referred to pedophiles as “prophets” of sexual freedom! The editorial opined: “We must listen to our prophets. Instead of fearing being labeled pedophiles, we must proudly proclaim that sex is good, including children’s sexuality. . . . Surrounded by pious moralists with deadening anti-sexual rules, we must be shameless rulebreakers (sic), demonstrating our allegiance to a higher concept of love. We must do it for the children’s sake.”  Of course, always “for the children’s sake.” Hand me a barf bag!

Love is not the justification for marriage. If that were true then three or four people can be married since they “love” each other. Or, a man could “love” his goat but few sane people would approve such an arrangement. Why could not a man marry his son, thereby circumventing estate taxes? While sane people find that possibility abhorrent, it can be justified with warped, wicked, and wanton thinking. After all, the most persuasive case against incest is the danger of reproduction.

But then, who knows? Many professing Christians or church members would come to his defense! And therein lies the rub. The reason the Homosexual Lobby captured society (especially the media, education, and government) is because church members have become unprincipled, uncaring, and uncourageous, and are now unnecessary. Many Christians have no problem with “the love that dare not speak its name.”

Christians have been bullied, badgered, and blackmailed into accepting the homosexual lifestyle or is that death style? However, the Bible condemns this perversion; furthermore, it also condemns those who defend perversion: “Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil…” (Isaiah 5:20). That’s where we are today.

So, the problem is not only with moral perversion but the cowardly capitulation of Christians who remain silent about the evil or even defend it.  Above all, they must be perceived by their friends as loving, modern, cool, and hip. Such “Christians” should be kicked out their churches if they do not repent. It seems that some civic clubs have higher standards than some churches.

A good illustration of this principle was recounted in a Chattanooga-area church where a mother was required to choose between her church (where she had attended for 60 years) and her lesbian daughter. The daughter had successfully advocated to make government benefits available to same-sex “spouses.” Her mother supported her homosexual advocacy. Church officials met with the mother and two other relatives and told them, “They could repent for their sins and ask forgiveness in front of the congregation. Or leave the church.” Well finally, a church that practices church discipline. Of course, for doing so, they are called “unloving,” “haters,” and “bigots.” That’s easier than dealing with the issue.

The lesbian daughter whined, “Literally, they’re exiling members for unconditionally loving their children – and even extended family members.” Her dad told CNN, “Loving her daughter and supporting her family was not a sin.” Dad declared, “There was nothing to repent about.” He added. “They certainly couldn’t judge her on that because that was between her and her God, and it was not their place to judge her for that.”

I am not without sympathy for the family; however, Scripture must rule, not sentimentalism. Principled people do what is right even when it hurts. The family was not being judged for “unconditionally loving” but for defending perversion. Moreover, it was the church’s place or right, even obligation, to make a judgment. The family refused to repent and left the church.

The church was not demanding that the family turn their back on their daughter, but to turn their back on her sin. There is a difference. We don’t make decisions about right and wrong depending on our relationship to a person.

For Christians to defend and declare homosexuality as acceptable rather than denounce it is a major tragedy within a tragedy.

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  • thisoldspouse

    Thank you, Dr. Boys. The truth sounds so radical and even “hateful” to some, even to nominal Christians, because we have fallen so far.

    • http://batman-news.com JCaballer1965

      There is very little truth in anything he has said. He needs to go back a few years to the era where he could openly discriminate against gays and have all of the support he needed. Bigots like him are neither wanted nor needed in the 21st century

      • thisoldspouse

        Says the bigoted sodomite.

        • http://batman-news.com JCaballer1965

          Where’s your butt buddy gun pup this am? I knew it wouldnt take long for the sodomite call to come from your direction….LOL. Do you think that hurts my feelings? ROTFL!!!! You don’t know me but I know you….

          • thisoldspouse

            You’ll hear this as long as you falsely call me a “bigot.” Get used to it.

          • http://batman-news.com JCaballer1965

            Keep up the good work. May just change screen name to sodomite. LOL!!! You should change your name to thisoldbigot as it is far more fitting:)))))

          • John Ruff

            By the truest definition of the word; you are a bigot.

          • Mike

            What makes you think you aren’t a bigot? You hate gay people merely because they are gay. That is what the word means. The fact that you come by your hatred form your imaginary friend and a book of immoral fables does not excuse you.

        • John R

          So we are sodomites. So what?
          Like you have never done oral before. You sodomite.
          No big deal.

          • Cheyenne W.

            Darn, as a bottom, I always thought of myself as a catamite… Even if I am a very large and annoying catamite. Now I will have to re- think my entire existence.

          • John R

            LOL…..that was a good come back. Love it.

        • John Ruff

          My husband tells me “you’re kinda big.” So, we don’t do butt stuff.

          • Guest

            You don’t have a husband, you have a mental disorder.

          • chillwallball

            They certainly look happy. It looks like you need to find happiness in yourself if you think love is a mental disorder

          • John Ruff

            Oh. So, you’re a doctor? Don’t tell the District of Columbia I’m not married, because they, just like I, have proof that I have a husband. Just try and take it away, I dare you.

        • Mike

          No, TOS, you are clearly ignorant of the facts. Mr. Boy is a hateful bigot. Pointing that fact out does not make the person pointing it out a bigot, just someone telling the truth.

    • BillTheCat45

      Your “no equality” avatar is both revealing and adorable. The “old” part of your name is apt, as your generation will pass soon enough, and your hateful un-clever symbol of intolerance will be relegated to the dustbin of our darker history, like Fred Phelps.

    • Mike

      It is pathetic that anyone could read that pile of hatred, false claims, and outright lies and praise it. that says a lot about you and none of it is good.

  • David

    “sodomy should be a crime again to give police officials authority to stop the cruising in city parks, sex in public restrooms, and discourage molesting of little boys”

    All of which can be controlled without “sodomy” laws. And of course you bring in pedophilia which the majority of homosexuals are against. You cannot and will never be able to help those who want freedom from their same-sex desires while focusing in the direction you do. Chicken little didn’t have much credibility. Of course I made the assumption that helping people was the goal, perhaps it is just forcing your beliefs on others which is what you accuse LGBT activists of doing. Two wrongs never do make a right.

    • thisoldspouse

      You are sadly deluded.

      Where crack-downs on public restroom soliciting have occurred, the homosexuals in those areas have pitched rabid fits, saying that THEY are being unfairly targeted.

      • David

        unfortunately you are correct in saying that about some circumstances. Other times the issue was the method used that caused the outrage. Either way, adding another law won’t change that.

      • Rickster Rickster

        like republican senator larry craig!

      • Ray

        It funny how those little things get emphasized by “Christians” when the $13 BILLION a year porn industry is piped directly into every home in America courtesy of cable and the internet. And what do we hear about? Why, somebody might ask you for a date in the bathroom.

  • http://batman-news.com JCaballer1965

    I love it when they start with the a man could marry his son or his dog routine. It goes to show the ineptness of those fighting against the rights of others. The religious right shrieks constantly about the gays but leaves other sins to go by the wayside. They constantly provide false information thus breaking their own commandments. They spew their vitriol incessantly yet become hypocritical when they are called out for it. Nothing more than religious hypocrites.

  • Boo

    I’ll give you this much, Mr. Boys: at least you’re honest. You don’t bother with the silly “love” mask so many antigay “Christians” wear. By all means, rant about “degenerates” and “perverts” and openly state your desire to throw all gay people in jail. Letting your hate shine forth is the best thing someone like you can do for us.

  • Progressive Patriot

    Well, that was certainly an instructive, poorly written article filled with nonsensical tripe. The author seems to be pining for laws to use against the LGBT community and comes across as whining and petulant that society has progressed forward.

    The line about being anathemized for not being able to use tried and true pejoratives in the modern age was especially endearing as it came across as almost a lament. One can easily seem how discomfiting it must be to wistfully long for the olden days when one could whip their slave, segregate coloreds to themselves, and be able to treat those with same-sex feelings in an equally horrific manner. We are all saddened by his inability to continue such “upstanding” treatment.

    NOT.

  • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

    God is blessing the Gay Christian movement. And your hate saddens him, Mr Boys.

    • Guest

      No he isn’t, you’re just lying to yourself, as usual.

      • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

        The facts speak for themselves. By removing His hand from specific churches and ministries, God is margionalizing the harm they do. Reparative therapy is practically non-existant now, because God does not “cure” homosexuals. He knows they aren’t broken. Small, back-woods churches that still discriminate against gays are losing members because of their hate (ie. Westboro).

        • Guest

          You’re a liar and a pervert.
          That is all.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Name-calling: when you suddenly realize the person you are debating with is RIGHT.

    • thisoldspouse

      He continues to “bless” it with AIDS, gonorrhea, syphilis, and now, meningitis.

      Interesting what you call a “blessing.”

      • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

        Your lack of medical knowledge notwithstanding, these diseases are not homosexual-only afflictions. They affect all groups, regardless of sexual orientation. I would think that if God had “sent AIDS” to punish the homosexuals, he would have kept it contained within that group….. But He didn’t. Because AIDS, and the other diseases are not a punishment for anything. They are the result of viruses spreading. Period. And, anyway, AIDS is no longer the killer it once was. Anyone with AIDS can live just as long as someone not infected. And a cure is not far off. So much for your “punishment” beliefs…..

        • Halou

          Humanity, in it’s efforts to cure god’s curse, approaching success. Greater than god?

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            No one is greater than God. Even I know that. Be careful. God is not mocked.

        • Bad_homonym

          I have often wondered why god hates gay men, dislikes heterosexuals, and loves lesbians. This I base on levels of HIV infections in each community of course. ;-)

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Your lack of evidence, both scientific or Biblical, made me laugh. You embarrass and anger God by claiming to know his thoughts on this matter. And you show your lack of education by trying to link the two.

          • shepetgene

            I think he was being sarcastic.

          • Bad_homonym

            I’m glad at least you got it.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Wow, my friend, I so missed your sarcasm. I’m SO sorry. I’m so used to responding to the hate on this site, that my “sarcasm detector” may have been affected. Now that I’ve re-read your post, I totally get it. I like your sense of humor and hope to read more posts from you on this board. Have a great day, my friend.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Oops, my bad! Thanks for clarifying, friend!

        • Cheyenne W.

          Actually, most doctors now think that HIV positive individuals may live longer than those without since they see a doctor every 3/4 months and have a full blood work up. Anything wrong would be caught really fast.

      • BillTheCat45

        Interesting what you call a “religion”, with the blood, murder and intolerant hatred displayed in your “good book”, lol.

      • Halou

        It’s a tragically funny blessing. It seems to disproportionately affect the nations that provide the harshest penalties for homosexuality, and not those most accepting of it.
        But I guess that is the definition of your god. Human misery for misery’s sake.

      • TBP100

        You don’t really think these things are exclusive to gay people, do you?

      • Cheyenne W.

        I must be really blessed…

    • triangle whip

      God is blessing the abortionists, elites like Soros and the Illuminati Arab shieks, Islamic facism, ect.. But will all fall down like a house of cards when He pulls the rug. And homo Christians, will fall in their iniquity as well if they don’t repent..

      • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

        The Illumanati? Conspiracy much? I hope you’re wearing your aluminum foil hat when you post, or we will read your mind! (insert evil laugh here)

        • triangle whip

          You think I stand for the Illuminati. wow! Keep showing your perverted ignorance. Here a secret . The Illuminati has many homos in it..

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            As long as this site has people like you, I will celebrate. Please, keep talking. Who killed Kennedy? What did the Illumanati do with the Roswell aliens? How long have you had your subscription to the “Weekly World News?” Please, respond to this post. I’m enjoying this.

    • Jacobus Arminius

      There is no “gay” Christian movement. There’s gays trying to destroy true Christianity. And Christians defending the church and the Bible from your onslaughts. But “gay” and Christian go together like water and oil.

      But you know that. And that’s why you’re staying as far away as possible from the Liberal Scholars article today. Because it has gays, lesbians and pro-homosexual scholars debunking your lies. But you like to live in denial, and hold onto your PridefulOpinion.

      • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

        Unlike you, I back my statements with evidence. There definitely is a Gay Christian movement. As an example check just one of the many websites that God is blessing, like:

        BelieveOutLoud Dot Com

        I chose not to put the real address as it would be flagged. Stop making unsubstantiated statements like “there is no gay christian movement” when you know you are lying.

        • Jacobus Arminius

          Not lying. They are false Christians.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Your statement was “there is no gay Christian movement.” I proved you otherwise. Therefore, you were lying. But save your pride. After all, Christians are never called to admit they were wrong.

          • Jacobus Arminius

            Actually, the Liberal Scholars article proves that there is no such thing as gay Christians. It’s an oxymoron. But you are avoiding that article like the plague, especially since a new scholar was added.

            If you want to talk anymore today, you’ll need to join me over there and address what it presents.

      • Progressive Patriot

        Soulforce, Dignity USA, the Metropolitan Churches, on and on.

        There is indeed a gay Christian movement afoot. Seems like there is an ever larger and increasing force that realizes that the LGBT community are not the monsters that some would believe.

        Not only that, there are Christians who support comprehensive immigration reform and see the immigrants as … (gasp) … HUMAN BEINGS. Shocker, I know.

        • Jacobus Arminius

          Ok, there is a movement of false “Christians” trying to destroy the church. I know that.

          Never thought they were monsters. Just certain ones like you are deceived.

          • Progressive Patriot

            Well, that moniker of “false” has been tossed around for centuries. The Protestants use it for Roman Catholics. Both use it for Mormons. Nothing really new under the sun.

            As it is, there are hundreds, if not thousands of various denominations and sects who each feel theirs to be the one and only “true” variant: the one and only “true” interpretation.

            Meh. SSDD. Gay Christians exist in 2014. That is the reality. There are bigger fish to fry.

          • TBP100

            IMHO there is no such thing as a Christian, for the simple reason that people calling themselves Christians have NEVER agreed among themselves as to who is, and who is not, really a Christian. They all use the Bible as their source, but come to incompatible conclusions, and then kill each other over their theological differences. What’s an outsider like me supposed to think?

      • Mike

        JA, I don’t care a lot about Christian squabbles, but it is funny watching people fight over how best to serve their imaginary friend.

  • climate3

    Good grief, using “Guide” to defame gays went out when Robert Knight left the Family Research Council. PLEASE get some new material. it’s just so embarrassing that you don’t.

  • Jeff Baker

    Try saying that “choose between your homo-sexual child or your church” to Phyllis Schlafly—you’ll be plunged into conservative obscurity in a flash!

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  • Elcoguy

    I’ll make a deal with you Don. You stop using the terms “sodomy,” “degenerate,” or “pervert” and Gay people and those of us (majority) straight people who stand with them will stop calling intolerant right wing christians “homophobes” “bigots” and “hateful”

  • BillTheCat45

    It’s a tragedy wrapped in a calamity deep inside a debacle!! lol

    • Bad_homonym

      Dipped in a snafu and rolled in fiascos

  • penguin_boy

    What’s sad here is the Supreme Court of the United States already ruled that sodomy laws violated the Constitution. Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003). So all this silly bill would have done is cost the state milliions fighting a losing cause.

    Just a hint here, If your best sources are two centuries old, your definitions might be a little out of date. Care to share what those sources defined “negro” as? Society changes over time. You are losing, and losing fast and hard.

    Congratulations on finally listening to one of the most important pieces of American music, written by an American legend and recipient of the Presidential Medal of Freedom. It only took you fifty years to catch up.

    • Cheyenne W.

      I am sure that the good Dr. Boys could tell us all about “the negro.” Surely he must be a medical anomaly as he must have received his doctorate (not sure in what) in the 19th century as his thinking seems frozen there. That would make him well over 100 years old at a minimum. I am also guessing that he measures skull size to determine intelligence levels as well. Maybe he rides in a horseless carriage well.

  • Rickster Rickster

    this man is a crackpot hate monger

  • chillwallball

    Wow. Just wow. Out of all the Barbwire columnists, this guy truly HATES gay people the most. (And that’s saying something!!) Not only does he want a 12 year prison sentence, he abhors the mere fact that gays live normal lives in the neighborhood!

    Move to Uganda, dude

    • Cheyenne W.

      I think that he needs a time machine, not a jet. Although he could be the best fundraiser since Fred Phelps….

  • shepetgene

    Cool, the rates of STDs within a population don’t determine their rights and protections under the law. Also you’ve explained it yourself below, the anal mucosa is particularly at risk for acquiring sexually transmitted infections and though anal sex is not the exclusive form of intimacy for gay men and there are gay men that do not engage in it, they are still significantly more likely to engage in receptive anal sex than a heterosexual-identified man. Moreover, anal cancer is caused by HPV, just like cervical cancer, so that’s not particularly surprising that men who engage in receptive anal sex would get it – it is, however, still rare.

    This connection to sexually transmitted infection rates and somehow limiting gay rights are incongruous. Trying to smear all gay people as “dirty” or “diseased” is just one in a number of tactics to vilify gay people. The vast majority of Americans see through it and it’s not making your side any more socially palatable.

    • climate3

      He got SERVED.

    • Bad_homonym

      I wonder if this clown would have tried to make being african illegal when the medical community thought only people of african descent could acquire sickle cell anemia.

      • Philip Andrews

        I agree that Boys is a moron. However, sickle cell is not acquired as it is a genetic disorder, and unfortunately one that only runs in certain West African bloodlines. But I see where you were going.

  • CrissCross

    “It will mean death to individuals, the family, the culture, and the nation”

    Rubbish.
    “the family”… Which family? There are millions in society. To believe that there is only one is delusion.
    “the culture”…. Which culture? Society is a diverse melange of many cultures. The constitution is designed to accommodate and provide refuge to many many different cultures, that is what makes the freedoms entrenched in that constitution such a powerful force to unite the nation.

    You appear to be seeking a unified army of clones, all marching to the same beat, all identical and all complying with a singular common ideology. You will not find or achieve that. Many have tried to build that in the past, all have failed.

    Society is only destroyed when all believe it destroyed. If you believe in its destruction your actions (both conscious and subconscious) will bring that destruction about so as to justify or validate your belief.

    Human beings move towards whatever they are seeing ahead. Set destruction in your sights and that is surely the direction you are heading in.
    You are free to bring about destruction, but it is you who brings the destruction, irrespective of whatever it was that motivated you to destroy.
    Your destructiveness and your destruction are yours, and yours alone.

  • Cheyenne W.

    Where can we hire this guy? Now that Fred Phelps has passed, he might be the next best cheerleader that we can find. Given that he is probably running up against the actuarial tables, we best do this soon… Run a few of his articles calling for imprisonment of gays in newspapers and maybe a TV interview or two and the few under-30 somethings that do oppose gay rights will quickly rethink their positions. Heck, we might even gain a few more baby boomers with him spewing these diatribes.

  • Philip Andrews

    Mr Boys seems very obsessed with gay sex. Who wants to bet that he knows his way around a rest area?

  • Kierra

    give police officials authority to stop the cruising in city parks, sex in public restrooms, and discourage molesting of little boys.

    Loitering, public sex, and child molestation are already illegal.

  • TheDukeOfHighwayJ

    My favorite part was: “Dr. Don Boys is a **–>former<–** member of the Indiana House of Representatives".

    What a pantload!

  • blowingoffgodot

    I am ashamed to live in a country where a man this ignorant is electable to any public office.

  • regexp

    We want to have a house in the suburbs?!? WE ARE CLEARLY HISTORY’S GREATEST MONSTERS!

  • Mike

    This writer is clearly misinformed, delusional and full of hate. Let’s go down the list…

    He claims that a law against homosexuals having sex will stop the molestation of boys. How long will ignorant christian conservatives keep repeating this idiotic lie. It is a well established fact in social science that men who self identify as homosexual are the least likely to molest children. Full stop. There is no room for argument… facts are facts. In their insane drive to malign and attack homosexuals, men like this writer tell this and other lies over and over.

    He is correct that is is demonized when he says that homosexuals are degenerates. It is what he deserves. He voices an untrue, scurrilous lie because he hates homosexuals and he is surprised when he is told that he is a bad person? That takes a special kind of stupidity and he deserves social stigma.

    The Guide article he proposes was published as satire. Again, it takes a special kind of stupid to not realize that. Of course, it is most likely that the writer never actually read the article and is merely mindlessly parroting what he has seen on right-wing extremist websites.

    He also blatantly lies about the role of marriage. He says it has nothing to do with love and only about reproduction. How can these zealots continue to claim this and not also push for the outlaw of marriages for senior citizens or those with physical ailments? The answer is that they are trying to hide their real motives. There protests are not because they actually believe these sorts of claims but rather that they hate gay people and do not want them to be treated like human beings.

    His arrogance in declaring that only his version of christianity is the right one seems to me to be one that would concern other christians. It is of no concern to me but do other christians accept that his is the final word on the faith?

    I also note that he is of the opinion that a church is justified in dismissing members that don’t toe the line when told to reject their children. Again, is this paragon of arrogance, deception and hate the final arbiter of what the christian religion should be? He is a typical hypocrite in that he adheres adamantly to the scripture telling him to hate homosexuals but I am certain he ignores all the ones he doesn’t like, such as the whole shrimp thing.

    Mr. Boys is an example of the worst that society has to offer. He hates gay people and will tell any lie or pass any unconstitutional law he can in order to institutionalize his hatred. He is arrogantly assured of his own goodness when in fact he is one of the most immoral men I have ever read comments from.

  • Donalbain

    They want to move into a house in the suburbs, park matching Volvos in the driveway and be accepted as normal people

    Ohhh! The humanity!!! Matching Volvos!!!

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