Shocking Video: Multiple Attacks by ‘Gay’-Stapo

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This video is a compilation of physical assaults perpetrated against TFP Student Action members campaigning around the country for traditional marriage. TFP stands for Tradition, Family, and Property, which are the core values they defend. According to their website: “The American TFP was formed to resist, in the realm of ideas, the liberal, socialist and communist trends of the times and proudly affirm the positive values of tradition, family and private property.”

These recorded incidents reveal the appalling intolerance and hatred of the homofascists.

“If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me [Jesus] first” (John 15:18).

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  • Truth Offends

    I’ve been on the receiving end of pro-homosexuality hate. What can never be captured on video is something I’ve personally experienced and truly felt; that is,
    the powerful spiritual forces involved in this battle between good and evil.

    • peteykins

      Oh, by all means, please do share your story.

    • thisoldspouse

      Indeed, Satan is working through these deviants.

      • Truth Offends

        And God’s Holy Spirit works through those who resist the devil !

    • Annette

      Actually, I think it is captured to an extent. At the part where the guy is yelling “God is dead” and “Jesus died for his own sins, not mine” while the others were saying the Lord’s Prayer, it really seemed like that to me. I could almost sense the demons and angels fighting in the same space and it gave me chills.

      • carrotcakeman

        Did you feel the same way watching “Harry Potter”?

      • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

        Annette, there is a book that would interest you. HOSTAGE TO THE DEVIL, by a Jesuit priest by the name of Malachi Martin. He worked with the Vatican for some time and performed many exorcisms.

        What makes it fascinating, and chilling, is the similarity in speech patterns of the demons he was driving out and homosexuals. Look for some of his interviews on You Tube.

        • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

          Blasphemy and drama.
          Isaiah 45:7
          I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

          • QuadGMoto

            The Hebrew word for “evil” (translated “disaster”) represents natural calamity as well as moral evil. God, in His perfection, does nothing morally evil. But, since all events are subject to His control, He is ultimately responsible for all events in history and nature. Moral evil derives from the choices of human beings and angels.

            — The Apologetics Study Bible (Holman Bible Publishers, 2007)

          • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

            No thank you. I am, like Jesus and Isaiah, a monotheist.

          • QuadGMoto

            Non-sequiter nonsense.

          • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

            It is “non sequitur.”

          • youngoldbones .

            ROFL You no doubt found the spelling because you had to lookit up to find out what the phrase meant in the first place. LOL I highly doubt that Latin is your forte.

          • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

            Veni, vide, vici. – Caesar’s Commentary on the Gallic War

          • youngoldbones .

            I have three years of Latin training, you have google.

          • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

            I had two years of Latin starting in 8th grade with Mrs. Sollinger. First year is Grammar, Second Year is spent on Julius Caesar to learn conversational form. I still remember the opening sentence. “Omnia Gallia in tres partes divisa est.

            I did not take anymore Latin. I took French I. Both languages very useful. I also studied Italian and am fluent enough to get around by bus still.

            You have made the same argument twice now. Sei uno stronzo.

      • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

        Think about other things.

    • Jeanette Victoria

      One of the reason I DON’T post anonymous is the homo-fascists can’t get me fired and I have no children for them to harass. And I have paid the price as all these perverts have is lies and smears

      • Truth Offends

        I post anonymously for various reasons.

        • carrotcakeman

          You post anonymously because even you recognize Americans consider anti-gays dishonest, immoral and disloyal.

          • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

            Add sexually dysfunctional and obsessed to that list.

          • Christopher Silva

            Eat some carrot cake and shut your intolerant pie-hole pervert.

      • carrotcakeman

        And why should we believe that’s your real name?

        • Jeanette Victoria

          LOL to damn funny coming from an pro-pervert anonymous coward

          • carrotcakeman

            The FBI statistics I posted prove that LGBT Americans are still at huge risk from anti-gay violence. Yes, I know, you can’t believe facts that contradict your homophobia. No one who is not afflicted by homophobia will be fooled by your inability to accept documentation from the FBI.

          • youngoldbones .

            Most crimes against homosexuals come from other homosexuals in their own community, crimes of passion and accidental deaths that stem from their perverse sexual practices.

          • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

            You mean like Matthew Sheppard?

            Turns out that was a broadly-trumpeted lie.

            In reality, it was just a robbery, and at worst, f*g-on-f*g violence.

            Folks might look at the real stats and see where the violence is concentrated… between homosexuals themselves.

          • youngoldbones .

            Absolutely right. The Matthew Shepard lies were exposed by a gay author no less. I think the book is called The book of Matthew”

            I also saw a video where a gay man talked about some weird high risk sex that often killed one of the participants, he freely admitted that Gay sex is wrong , sick and dangerous. I would not be surprised if many gay “hate crimes” were actually crimes of passion committed as gay on gay violence or kinky sex gone wrong. There is a book, John a MacArthur makes reference to it called “where death delights” by Milton Helperin who claims that the worst most horrific murders involve a gay assailant on a gay victim.

          • Karen Elizabeth

            every human is at risk from ‘anti-human’ violence…..humans really stink sometimes and are horrifically gruesome and violent towards one another….whether gay straight, black or white or jew or indian or asian or male or female….

            not one group gets to hold the banner of ‘most punked’…
            or ‘most abused’…

            it comes down to the TRUTH….and the TRUTH is God did not intend for man and man to be together and woman to be together with woman…..that does not excuse nor make acceptable the violence rendered toward others humans because of those beliefs any more does it excuse the violence toward any ethnic group because of skin color or national origin….

            it is just as prejudiced to call someone a homophobe because they disagree with your beliefs as it is for them to call you a faggot if they think you are one….

            wrong is wrong..

            humans are sinners….that makes us all equal….only the blood of Christ and the faith in Him will ever bring us to a point of righteousness and cleanliness….and that won’t happen while we’re still in this fleshly vessel….

            so in the meantime…

            nice to meet you sinner….my name’s Karen…..what’s yours???

          • Jacobus Arminius

            There have been so many gay hate stories that turned out to be fake, but the media went crazy on reporting them. So, if there really was such an example of a real hate crime against a homosexual, they would make movies, plays, and TV shows about it. The story would be everywhere. So where are they?

    • carrotcakeman

      What do you mean, “publicly”? You don’t post with your real name, you hide behind a pseudonym. If being anti-gay was as all-fired “popular” as you claim, you could post your real name, home address and phone number, as well as the name of your employer.

      • RhondaStar

        Ah, come on. Check out The Love of Hate: Homosexual Martyrdom Complex. I know it might burst your little ‘gay’ bubble. But I get a kick out of watching you stir the pot.

      • youngoldbones .

        Says the guy who goes by “carrotcakeman”. LOL.

      • Karen Elizabeth

        HI,

        I am anti-gay….my name is Karen….i live in Johns Creek GA, i do not have a home phone and you will NOT have my cell phone number….i am self employed…..actually, i am employed by my husband, who i am betrothed to according to the system and will of the Almighty God who created me, a woman…made for a man.

        ..i also happen to have a part time business on the side when I am not serving my GOD and my HUSBAND according to the customs and manner of the perfect design of the Almighty and Sovereign Lord of the Universe, the one who Created YOU…

        Christ loves everyone….

        i tend to struggle with that approach at times, but am working on it….with the help of His Spirit…some days more successful than others, but i digress…

        so if you would like to engage me personally and privately, you can probably find an email address (if you’re savvy enough) or other avenue online to confront me with your diatribe…..i have no problems stating those things PUBLICLY which i am against….which are things that are ANATHEMA to the Lord and contrary to the scriptures….i do not hate any human, but i will outspokenly confront the things of darkness and sin and behaviors in fellow humans that are egregious or abominable.

        as well… if you would like to engage me face to face on this topic, feel free to come to my front door and see how far that gets you….i fear NO man…..nor do i fear the carrotcakeman……
        i am many things….a coward is not one of them…

        oh and did i mention i’m ANTI-GAY?? and ANTI gay rights??
        and anti same sex marriage??

        (and as of today i’m also officially ANTI-CATHOLIC….but that’s another story…sort of needed to come out of the closet on that one….)

        peace to you whatever your religion or sexual preference.

      • Christopher Silva

        How about YOU post YOURS tough guy?

      • muad’dib

        given the acts of violence and childishness displayed by the homosexuals in the video, I won’t post my real name. I was perfectly fine with gay people until I started to see this. There is something wrong with people who promote tolerance yet go out attacking others with violence for their beliefs. So I will no longer tolerate.

    • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

      As ye sowed, so ye have reaped.

      • QuadGMoto

        “And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed.”
        — John 3:19–20

        • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

          Excuses excuses.

        • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

          ROMANS 1:27

          1:26 “For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

          1:27 “And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.”

          That recompense most likely all the poop-bourne diseases these Freakshows contract, carry, pass on and die of.

          Can’t say they weren’t warned.

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  • junkmailbin

    the perverted know bounds in their hatred of all that is good . They only want to destroy anything or one that shines a light upon their perverted actions and ideas.

    • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

      I have gay family members. Mess with my family in real life and I will hurt you. You keep a civil tongue in your head around me and mine.
      None of us are responsible for your sexual obsessions. And if you must talk about them, talk to your priest or a shrink. I for one am tired of all the pearl clutching and wierdness.

      • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

        Flagged for threat of violence.

        • John

          poor baby

          • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

            I am so scary. I wonder what I said.

        • youngoldbones .

          Not at all surprised that he would threaten you, that’s what happens when they are threatened by the truth.

  • Dannyboy

    It’s classic psychological projection:

    Homosexual groups accuse others of hate because they know that the haters and violent types are really the homosexual groups.

    • carrotcakeman

      No, yours is the “projection.”

      • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

        Who cares. I want these creeps to keep their noses out of my sexlife. Fricking perverts.

        • youngoldbones .

          Keep your sex life out of our society.

          • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

            Your society knows about my sexlife? How? You been peeking in my window, Perverino?

          • youngoldbones .

            The only reason there is all this commotion around your perverted lifestyle is because it’s you and people like you who are FORCING celebration and acceptance of your perversions upon normal society. First you people wanted to be left alone, we GLADLY did this, only taking issue with your behavior when you carried on at rest stop bathrooms terrifying innocent children who walk in on your filthy activities, but now you want us all to wear a big grin and pretend that you’re not corrupt perverts, no we call perversion what it is, and homosexuality us one of the worst and most dangerous perversions. Also homosexuals are often sadists and masochists, pederasts and even cut there own bodies.
            If the influence of homosexuals has full expression in a society, then that society is headed for its demise.

          • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

            Drama Queen.
            You did not answer my question? You said you know about my sexlife. I am asking how you know about my sexlife? You have some kind of special clairvoyance machine? You been peeking in my window?
            My advice to you, you will not be so terrified of the Gay Banditios if you think about other things. Can you?

          • youngoldbones .

            Just how dumb are you?

          • youngoldbones .

            You said that people should keep their noses out of your sexlife, too which I replied, keep your sexlife (all of you homosexuals) out of our society. Get it now??

          • youngoldbones .

            You say you understand more than one language, too bad English isn’t one of them.
            And incidentally, you aren’t worth returning to thus conversation in the future, nothing you have written here is compelling or interesting in the least. Your entire discourse here shows that you have a third rate mind. Tchuss.

      • RhondaStar

        Have you seen this story on BarbWire today: The Love of Hate: Homosexual Martyrdom Complex. You’ll “love” it!

        It projects your hatred very well.

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

    HOW has it come about that America is being held hostage by such a small percentage of perverts, especially with America’s 1600 Christian foundations in mind? There has to be a defining point in history at which time the Christian course of America was altered.

    That moment was 1787 when the framers replaced the Christian Colonial’s
    governments of, by, and for God, based upon His immutable morality as reflected in His perfect law (Psalm 19:7-11) with their humanistic government of, by, and for the people, based upon their own Enlightenment edicts (Matthew 15:6-9).

    Had the framers established government and society upon Yahweh’s morality as codified in His commandments, statutes, and judgments (including Leviticus 18:22 & 20:13), there would be no homosexual agenda today because no sodomite or lesbian would dare risk exposing themselves to petition government for their “rights.”

    For what should prove to be an eye-opening contrast between the late 1700’s Enlightenment founders’ Constitution and America’s original Constitution (when there was no homosexual agenda), see blog article “375 Years Later: Constitution vs. Constitution.” Click on my name, then our website. Go to our Blog and scroll down to the title. Then be sure to check out our Constitution Survey in the right-hand sidebar on our main site.

    • WXRGina

      Hello, Mr. Weiland,
      We appreciate your input, but please do not use our comments sections to promote your website. Thank you for respecting our no-spam policy.

      • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

        Gina, I will, of course, respect your wishes. However, I would ask you to reconsider for the following reasons:

        1) I think it’s stretching the term to identify providing free additional information to those interested in pursuing an idea that I might post here as spam.

        2) I have witnessed others promoting other websites on this site. The only difference is that I reference my own material. If there were other sites providing the same or similar information, trust me, I would do be pleased to reference them instead. When it comes right down to it, what’s the difference what site I’m promoting for additional free information?

        3) Atheists, homosexuals, Mormons, etc. are allowed to promote their beliefs or non-beliefs on this site without censure, something I believe is a violation of the First Commandment. The only thing I’ve ever promoted or ever will promote in either my posts or the additional information on my site is Yahweh as God, King, Judge, and Lawgiver (Isaiah 33:22), His Son as Lord and Savior (John 14:6, Acts 4:12), His kingdom and, thus, His law as the perfect rule for society. ???

        4) To demand that I cease and desist providing additional information to interested parties has the appearance of prejudice, as if you’re threatened by my material.

        Thank you for your kind consideration regarding these points. I look forward to hearing from you again with your answer.

        Blessings in Christ!
        Ted

        • carrotcakeman

          One day you might figure out how annoyed Americans are with your attempts to push your “beliefs” onto us.

          • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

            You mean, that the 98 percent of society should quit resisting the push to make perversion respectable and protected by law?

            There.

            Fixed it for you.

      • Bob

        James 1.8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

      • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

        Hi Gina,

        I noticed at one point my original response to this article had been deleted. I now see it’s been put back up. Does this mean that I can include URL’s from my site (and other sites) in order to provide more information for those interested in future posts?

        • WXRGina

          Sure, Ted. It’s fine to post links that are specifically relevant to the stories on which you’re commenting. Any questions you might have are probably answered here: http://barbwire.com/comment-policy/

          • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

            Thanks Gina for getting back to me; I’ll be sure to look over the information via the link you provided.

    • carrotcakeman

      Sorry, despite your typical claim, the simple fact is fully 59% of Americans support marriage equality.

      • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

        That’s why it takes activist federal judges to overturn popular votes against SSM, right?

        Got it.

        • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

          It is the judiciary’s job to prevent tyranny of the minority by the majority. We do not vote on civil rights in America, we have them.
          I love the sound of bigot’s tears in the morning.

          • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

            Funny, I don’t see it anywhere in the Constitution that it is a fundamental right to spread deadly disease, molest little children, center one’s very existence around the sfincter and overrule the will of the rest of Normal society.

            As a matter of fact, in Colonial America, sodomy and buggery as it was then known, was a hanging offense, and it remained severely punished in every State until such time as the LAWRENCE decision, which was largely based on the lies of Kinsey.

            Nice try, but..

            FAIL.

          • youngoldbones .

            Yes and Kinsey was a pervert who colluded with Pedophiles. You tube carries a great British documentary on Kinsey revealing that Kinsey himself was homosexual and forced his flawed and falsified data onto society. When politicians started believing the lie that homosexuals represented 10 percent of the electorate that was enough for many of them to change their policies so as not to lose perceived votes.

    • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

      Jehovah is a demon given to genocide by modern standards. Biblical morality practiced today will get you arrested. It is christian dominionists like you that are providing homegrown terrorists. You are responsible in your blindness and lust for a wave of violence.

      • RhondaStar

        Have you seen this story on BarbWire today: The Love of Hate: Homosexual Martyrdom Complex. You’ll LOVE it! It’ describes homosexual “morality” very well.

        • John

          You have some of the saddest arguments on here..Good Grief!

        • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

          You know a lot of homosexuals?

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  • Billy Joe O’Dean

    Thank you guys for getting all this on video to show the world the hate of these fascists.

    • carrotcakeman

      I hope this video gets wider viewing, so more Americans will learn how dishonest anti-gays are. No one will be fooled by the fake video.

  • LouiseCA

    So, it’s okay for them to spray pesticides on pro-family people and do any other vicious things they want to but we’re not allowed to say publicly that homosexuality is a sin without serious repercussions?

    • Truth Offends

      Never-mind saying it’s a sin! The pro-homosexuality movement won’t even tolerate someone saying homosexuality is not normal!

      • carrotcakeman

        That’s because that’s a lie. Science has proven sexual orientation is inborn and unchangeable. Several US federal and several US State High Courts have examined that evidence and ruled that discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation is similarly unconstitutional as discrimination based on race because BOTH are IMMUTABLE characteristics.

        • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

          Lie.

          ‘Gay’ gene claim suddenly vanishes
          American Psychological Association revises statement on homosexuality, 05/12/2009

          Worldnetdaily wnd com

          That admission, coming from the APA is huge. Why?

          Because…

          Former president of APA says organization controlled by ‘gay rights’ movement

          by Matthew Cullinan Hoffman, Jun 04, 2012
          Lifesitenews com

          • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

            Unbiased sources please. LifesiteNews is a scrub. They do not permit discussion on their discussion pages.

          • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

            You mean, ‘not pro-Homosexual propaganda.’

            We can’t expect the truth out of outfits like OkCupid, A&E and Mozilla, can we? Nor even the AMA, and the APA (which, incidentally, trotted out the Rind Study in 1998, proposing that adult-child sex wasn’t harmful to children).

            So the best you can do is call the last redoubts of truth, ‘biased.’

            Right.

          • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

            The Gay Banditos are coming to take you away, take you away.

          • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

            Well.. they can try.

            I will just have to Stand My Ground, and then go have a beer.

          • youngoldbones .

            If not the adults then at least they are after our kids.

          • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

            Boy are you stupid. Most pedophiles self identify as heterosexual and many are married. It is not that there are no gay pedophiles. It is that they are far outnumbered by heterosexual pedophiles.

          • youngoldbones .

            Most Pedophiles who abuse boys are homosexual, period. And homosexuals, who make up only 2% of the population are disproportionately reprented in Pedophile arrests.

          • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

            Wrong. Do the reading. Do some thinking.
            http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/09/18/903178/-Gays-are-pedophiles-No-Here-s-the-proof#
            http://www2.viu.ca/positivespace/mythbusting.asp
            The “regressed pedophile,” is the classification of pedophile that most likely fits Jerry Sandusky … The regressed pedophile typically identifies as heterosexual in their adult relationships. Some studies on regressed pedophiles found a minute percentage who identified as homosexual, while other studies found no homosexuals amongst the test group
            http://newsitem.com/opinion/letters/pedophile-homosexual-not-interchangeable-1.1233541

    • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

      Unbiased source or it did not happen. I will wait.

      • QuadGMoto

        In other words, “Who are you going to believe? Me? Or your lying camera?”

        That’s not a hard choice.

        • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

          I am always astounded at the clairvoyance of the gay obsessed authoritarian.

  • shepetgene

    A lot of the actions happening is this video are disgusting and many of them unlawful. I would agree that it is disheartening to see people act this way. That being said, generalizing the actions of these random people to the entire group of people who support same-sex marriage is ridiculous. You would be just as upset if I or others generalized some of the actions of the Westboro Baptist Church or random people who attack gay men and women on the streets and said all Christians act this way and support that. Conjuring up some image of a paramilitary “homofascist” group from these images is pure paranoia. The actions of groups like HRC, GLSEN, and other prominent LGBT groups follow legal methods and channels for making change.

    • RhondaStar

      By the “legal methods and channels” are you referring to the way that the homosexual pressure groups effectively forced Eich out.

      • shepetgene

        HRC and many other large LGBT groups didn’t even weigh in on the Eich thing until after he resigned. Do you feel like his board acted illegally? If so, you should probably aim your attacks at them. People voicing outrage at a company and the actions of its employees is still legal. By your standard, One Million Moms is a terrorist group.

        • RhondaStar

          Officially, no laws were broken because he stepped down. But if he had fought this and been fired, I believe that would have been a violation of Equal Employment Opportunity laws…in the same way that it would be illegal for a company to fire a homosexual.

          HRC should have spoke out against what was done to Eich just like Andrew Sullivan did.

          Name one person that One Million Moms got fired.

          • shepetgene

            One Million Moms voices displeasure over companies actions, sends letters, boycotts goods, and puts their money where their mouth is. All legal tactics. Just as anybody who was upset over this Mozilla CEO seems like they did. Whether or not a board decides to oust their CEO, isn’t the argument. Again if you want to attack the actions of the board that’s different than attacking everyone for voicing displeasure. That’s a legal way to create change not “fascism.”

          • Truth Offends

            75,000 pro-homosexuality supporters demanded(!) Eich either: (1) publicly support homosexuality, or (2) resign/be fired immediately! That’s the position they took.

          • carrotcakeman

            This is why psychologists call that mental disorder, “homoPHOBIA.”

          • QuadGMoto

            Gee, what possible reason could people have for being afraid of homosexuals? I mean, other than, “agree with us totally or we will destroy your entire life,” that is.

          • carrotcakeman

            You haven’t sold that anti-gay propaganda to anyone but the few remaining anti-gays, Quad. Most Americans just laugh at anti-gays, and are aware of this paranoid fear anti-gays harbor for LGBT Americans.

        • RhondaStar

          And who did OMM’s violently attack?

          • shepetgene

            I was using the comparison to the outrage over the Mozilla CEO not to compare the people in the video. A more apt comparison for that would be the number of Democratic and Republican signs that get stolen or vandalized or the cars that get targeted for having any sort of bumper sticker on them. Those attacks go both ways. They’re obnoxious, they’re unlawful. Tying them to a greater social movement and trying to use that to discredit anybody who supports the opposite opinion of the group/person who was attacked is ridiculous. Especially when the leaders of those groups or movements do not condone those actions.

          • RhondaStar

            In general, I agree with some of what you have to say, but I still think that in sheer volume the homosexual activist are more violent.

          • carrotcakeman

            You’ve tried to spread that same propaganda elsewhere, Mr. Starr. I see you took my advice to take your propaganda to an extreme right-wing website–but I DO NOT see any evidence you fooled anyone here who didn’t already WANT to believe those LIES.

          • carrotcakeman

            Get real, no anti-gays have been “violently attacked,” what has happened is Americans routinely turn out to LAUGH at anti-gay troublemakers.

          • QuadGMoto

            Apparently you didn’t watch the video. Way to refuse to see the truth!

      • Truth Offends

        Or maybe the way of indoctrinating impressionable schoolchildren to accept homosexuality as normal through GLSEN’s “anti-bullying” model policy, Gay-Straight Alliance student groups, Days of Silence, etc.

        • shepetgene

          You’re disagreeing with the content of those initiatives, but the manner in which they were promoted or instituted wasn’t illegal.

          • Truth Offends

            Under fascism, people are not allowed to disagree. Those 75,000 homofascists demanded that he shouldn’t have a job because he disagreed. And government schools do not allow schoolchildren to disagree with teachers’ promotion of homosexuality without facing punishment.

          • carrotcakeman

            Keep repeating that propaganda to yourself, Offends. Have you convinced yourself yet?

          • QuadGMoto

            “Agree with us or we will destroy you” is clearly immoral, even if the method of destruction is legal.

          • carrotcakeman

            Isn’t that what anti-gays tried? Once again, LGBT Americans never cooked up even ONE Hate Vote to deprive anti-gays of their Constitutionally protected right to marry the person they love.

          • QuadGMoto

            A) Homosexuality is contrary to the physical and mental attributes of human beings. (Normal people discover that boys and girls are different by kindergarten.)

            B) You have never seen conservatives attempt to completely destroy a person’s ability to earn a living (through lawsuits, etc.) for merely thinking (just once) something they disagree with. But that is exactly what the homosexual activists are doing. That’s the kind of thinking that has lead to the most massive of mass murders in history. In fact, conservatives are the ones that put the right of free speech into the Constitution precisely to prevent that kind of Thought Police thinking, even from our side.

          • carrotcakeman

            Correct, shepetgene. Anti-gays TRIED to get those laws revoked by petitions for yet another Hate Vote to revoke that law, but California voters refused to sign their petitions. It turns out California voters WANT their HIGH SCHOOL JUNIORS to learn the TRUTH about Harvey Milk.

      • carrotcakeman

        Get real. Three Mozilla board members resigned over his appointment and publicly stated it had nothing to do with his attempt to subvert the United States Constitution and hurt loving, committed same gender couples, it was because he lacks the management skills to do the job.

    • thisoldspouse

      There is virtually NO repudiation by homosexuals of these violent acts against natural marriage supporters. Such silence is concurrence.

      • shepetgene

        Where and how would like to see “Homosexuals” apologize for these people? When the high-profile FRC shooting happened 25 LGBT groups wrote a joint statement condemning it. I have never seen any major LGBT group promote violence.

        • thisoldspouse

          These homosexual groups never condemned the incentive for Corkin’s crime, which is the SPLC’s inaccurate, incendiary “hate maps” propaganda.

          When they say something against that, then they’ll convince us.

          • shepetgene

            I think until groups like the FRC and sites like Barbwire stop using terms like “homofascism,” comparing gay people to Nazis, writing out-of-context articles smearing gay people for basically every social ill, etc. they’re going to have a hard time convincing a group to unlabel them a hate group. It goes both ways again. They’re not feeling respected but at the same time they’re offering no respect.

          • fliteking

            Wow Shep, exaggerate much?

          • thisoldspouse

            Homosexuals are the change agents, demanding that the established order be radically altered, affecting others substantially, as much as the activists would deny this. The advocates of CHANGE are the aggressors in society, not the sizable block (and I believe still MAJORITY) of the population who want to maintain the status quo of marriage as it has always been known up until the recent extremely paper thin sliver of history.

            We are the residents, who now have barbarians breaking down our doors and windows. That we logically respond with a defense is NOT aggression, but expected retribution.

          • carrotcakeman

            “Breaking down our doors and windows.”

            Who do you think you’re kidding?

          • carrotcakeman

            Americans don’t need to convince the few remaining anti-gays of anything. A strong majority of Americans already support marriage equality.

          • George Rogers Clark

            Still painting with a broad brush. “A strong majority.” Just making them up as you go along. Still do not want to face the moral issue. Why don’t you just do like the genius in the video.??. start shouting… “God is dead, God is dead…” Oh, that is right, you are actually afraid to do that. He might not be dead.

          • carrotcakeman

            59% of Americans support marriage equality. Research “support-for-same-sex-marriage-hits-new-high-half-say-constitution-guarantees-right” at the Washington Post, it’s their poll. Please note Americans also recognize LGBT Americans have a Constitutionally protected right to legal marriage.

          • carrotcakeman

            If you’re furiously typing “IdontbelieveyouIdontbelieveyouIdontbelieveyouIdontbelieveyouIdontbelieveyouIdontbelieveyou,” don’t bother. Psychologists report that the most commonly observed symptom of the mental disorder homophobia is cognitive dissonance, an inability of those so afflicted to accept documentation that contradicts their deep-seated phobia and hatred of LGBT Americans.

          • QuadGMoto

            So let me get this right… Male marrying male is exactly the same thing as male marrying female?

            What dictionary are you getting the definition of “equal” from? “Jim Jones’ Big Brown Joke Book”?

          • carrotcakeman

            Some other anti-gay claimed I was wrong. I showed anyone who wants to know the FACTS where to get the FACTS. You posted insults in response. I take it that means you know I’m 100% correct. Anti-gays have been pulling just that sort of foolishness for over 40 years now, and after all those lies, no one believes anything anti-gays say.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            You haven’t been correct about anything so far.

          • carrotcakeman

            Sure, I have, and I’ve provided sources where reasonable readers can confirm the facts I’ve posted. I’ve even shown why you are unable to accept those facts.

          • QuadGMoto

            Just examining your claim with simple logic. Not a single external reference needed.

            If A is not equal to B, then it is not rational to claim that it is.

            Last time I checked, Male+Male was not the same thing (and definitely cannot produce the same results) as Male+Female. Therefore, they cannot be equal.

          • carrotcakeman

            Yes, Quad, Americans are all very, very familiar with how much time anti-gays spend obsessing about “gay sex” and “how their sexy parts fit together.” Please continue, that’s already routine fodder for late night TV comics. Do you know how many times SNL has ridiculed just that anti-gay obsession with “gay sex”?????

          • QuadGMoto

            Wow, you can’t (or more likely, refuse to) understand simple logic?

            That’s just sad. :: SMH ::

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Rational people don’t buy into polls because they can be manipulated by how the question is posed.

          • carrotcakeman

            Funny, a minute ago you claimed I was lying about the polls.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            No, they don’t. Over 30 states, when the issue of same-sex marriage was put before the voters, said NO (including California TWICE).

          • carrotcakeman

            Do you know how many of those anti-gay Hate Votes have been revoked? And courts REVOKED your Hate Votes in California TWICE.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            That has no reflection on the will of the people, other than the fact it was ignored.

          • carrotcakeman

            Most of those anti-gay Hate Votes are over 10 years old. Americans have become better people since then. No have Vote will ever succeed again. Californians have rejected several subsequent attempts at yet more anti-gay Hate Votes. Ask your anti-gay pals in CA how they’ve been doing with their petitions.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Actually, the votes occurred within the past decade. Playing with time like that is a sign of disingenuousness.

          • carrotcakeman

            Most of the anti-gay Hate Votes go back to 2004 and 2000. We all know these Hate Votes intended to deprive LGBT Americans of the same right to legal marriage everyone else takes for granted were first cooked up by Karl Rove as a GOP Dirty Trick® to get his boss, Bush, elected and re-elected. We know Bush then told the IRS to ignore the churches that violated their IRS 503c3 regulations by cheating on these Hate Votes.

          • thisoldspouse

            Lies, by lying “statistics.”

            If counterfeit “marriage” were so wildly popular now, there would not be the instances of lone judges FORCING states to recognize it as legitimate.

        • fliteking

          Hey Shep, anywhere & anytime would be fine.

          Not sure why you’d need to seek direction on the point Spouse made . . . unless you will not be one of those objecting to this outrageous behavior. ( begin name calling)

          • carrotcakeman

            The incident at FRC is unfortunate, but there’s no proof the perpetrator is LGBT.

          • RhondaStar

            Except that the perpetrator admitted it.

          • carrotcakeman

            How about documenting that?

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Actually, he is.

            From Metro Weekly, “Quarter-Century Sentence for Corkins,” John Riley, September 19, 2013, first paragraph:

            “Floyd Lee Corkins II, the 29-year old Virginia gay man (emphasis mine) who pleaded guilty in February to committing the August 2012 shooting at the Family Research Council’s (FRC) D.C. headquarters with the intent of carrying out a mass killing, was sentenced Thursday morning by U.S. District Court Judge Richard W. Roberts to 25 years in jail, with five years supervised release after finishing his sentence.”

            Who are you more likely to believe? “Washington, D.C.’s Gay & Lesbian News Magazine (their words)?” Or your lying eyes?

          • carrotcakeman

            Yes, of course, the emphasis is yours. No one believes that routine anti-gay claim. You simply must learn to accept the fact that no one falls for such obvious deception.

          • QuadGMoto

            There’s that “IdontbelieveyouIdontbelieveyouIdontbelieveyouIdontbelieveyouIdontbelieveyouIdontbelieveyou” again.

            Time to stop playing with the belligerently ignorant troll.

          • carrotcakeman

            No one was fooled by your obvious lies other than the few other remaining anti-gays who desperately cling to such lies.

      • carrotcakeman

        Those aren’t “natural marriage supporters,” those are disloyal persons who are trying to subvert the United States Constitution.

    • RhondaStar

      And yet, we keep hearing about more and more examples of homosexual violence every day. Yesterday, BarbWire had an article with over 80 examples of Prop 8 attacks.

      • carrotcakeman

        Nope, what “we keep hearing about more and more” is such wild claims like yours, Mr. Starr.

  • Annette

    They are acting in accordance with their own worldview. If there is no God, you can do whatever you want because people have no inherent value and thus no reason to respect them and dialogue respectfully about your differences. It truly is sad, but this video exposes the truth about who the real bullies are with regard to this issue.

    • carrotcakeman

      Homophobia is not a “value,” it is a mental disorder.

      • RhondaStar

        Homosexuality is a perversion. Anyone who thinks abusing the sewer system of the body is an expression of love…well, that’s just warped.

        • carrotcakeman

          Nope. Sexual orientation, whether gay or non-gay, has been shown by science to be inborn and unchangeable, and psychologists have shown being gay or lesbian is just as healthy and “normal” as being non-gay. However, psychologists identified homophobia as a mental illness and published their results in the Journal of the National Institutes of Health in 1953. Psychologists report that the most commonly observed symptom of the mental disorder homophobia is cognitive dissonance, an inability of those so afflicted to accept documentation that contradicts their deep-seated phobia and hatred of LGBT Americans.

          • carrotcakeman

            “Anyone who thinks abusing the sewer system of the body is an expression of love…well, that’s just warped.”

            Yes, we all figured out you fantasize about “gay sex,” Mr. Starr. Readers who would like to see the scientific evidence for why anti-gay posters are so obsessed with what they IMAGINE same gender couples do in private should Google “Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.”

  • Sam

    They can’t hate me more than I hate evil and homosexuality. It is the homos who will never see the gates of heaven. They are the losers.

    • carrotcakeman

      It’s so sad to see anti-gays will even lie about the Bible. Jesus affirmed a gay couple. Read Matthew 8:5-13 and Luke 7:1-10. Many of us are familiar with the Gospel story where Jesus healed the servant of a Roman centurion. In the original Greek, the word that the Roman centurion uses in this passage to describe the sick man – pais – is the same word used in ancient Greek to refer to a same-gender partner.

      • RhondaStar

        Take your Gay-tanic theology somewhere else. This claim has been debunked many times. There is actually an article on this site that talks about that specific Bible story. The article is called The Theology of the Gay-tanic Church.

        • carrotcakeman

          I’ve documented that many major Christian churches agree with me. It’s you who is trying to promote the wacky “beliefs” of the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kansas.

          Face the fact, wherever you try to dump your vicious anti-gay Hate Speech, Americans will be waiting to debunk your lies.

      • QuadGMoto

        Liar.

        1 pais (from Homer onwards; connected with the root pou or pau, few, little, cf. Lat. pauper, paulus) means child (mostly masc.) as son, but also a daughter in relation to descent (Homer, Il. 2, 205). In relation to age it denotes a child in years (Homer, Od. 4, 665), a boy between 7 and 14 years, as distinct from the little child or the youth (cf. Hippocrates, De Hebdomadibus 5). Socially it means a servant or slave (Aesch., Cho. 653 f.), fem. paidiskeœ, maid, servant girl, female slave. Son of God, art. pai√ß Qeouv.

        2 paidion (from Homer onwards), a diminutive of pais, denotes a little child up to 7 years (Hdt. 2, 119), the newborn child (Hdt. 1, 110). It may also refer to a young slave, male or female.

        3 paidarion (from Aristoph. onwards), likewise a diminutive of pais, generally means, like paidion, a little child (cf. Plato, Symp. 207d). But it can mean a young man (cf. Tob. 6:2 f.), a young servant or slave (Xenoph., Agesilaus I, 21; Aristoph., Plutus 823, 843).

        4 brephos (from Homer onwards) denotes the unborn child, the embryo (Homer, Il. 23, 266), the newborn child, the baby and the little child (from Pindar on).

        “CHILD, BOY, SERVANT, SON, ADOPTION,” NIDNTT, 1:283.

        • carrotcakeman

          Sorry, I’m not interested in your false teachings you got from Satan.

  • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

    Attaching blame to an entire group based on the actions of an extremist few is cowardly. I’m sure you don’t want me to lump all Christians into the westboro camp. Seriously, let’s discuss this at an adult level.

    • carrotcakeman

      That would be wrong, since so many major Christian denominations are marrying same gender American couples now.

      • George Rogers Clark

        Some are, not “so many.” You are just irrepressible. What does that prove anyway? It only proves that even some church organizations are afraid of losing their 501c non-profit status. That does not mean that God has accepted the conduct. He doesn’t work under a 501c. He has His own laws. He loves us so much He wants us to obey His laws, because only He knows what is best for the creatures He created.

        • carrotcakeman

          And you expect us to believe God wants to hurt those He made LGBT? Sure, there are some really rotten people that say they are Christians and that tell shameful lies about LGBT Americans, but what about all the welcoming and affirming Christians–The REAL Christians? These denominations will marry same gender couples in 18 US States and the District of Columbia, but are being denied their right to practice their religion freely in 32 US States:

          Affirming Pentecostal Church International
          Alliance of Christian Churches
          Anointed Affirming Independent Ministries
          The Association of Welcoming and Affirming Baptists
          Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
          Community of Christ
          Conservative Judaism
          Ecumenical Catholic Church
          Ecumenical Catholic Communion
          The Episcopal Church
          Evangelical Anglican Church In America
          Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
          Global Alliance of Affirming Apostolic Pentecostals
          Inclusive Orthodox Church
          Metropolitan Community Church
          Old Catholic Church
          Progressive Christian Alliance
          Reconciling Pentecostals International
          Reconstructionist Judaism
          Reform Judaism
          Reformed Anglican Catholic Church
          Religious Society of Friends (Quakers)
          Unitarian Universalist Church
          United Church of Christ
          Unity Church

          These and many other denominations reject the hate speech inserted in the Bible to hurt LGBT people. Modern Biblical scholars have proven the Bible was intentionally mistranslated relatively recently in order to provide “Biblical cover” for then-rising levels of homophobia. For example, the word “homosexual” didn’t even exist until 1870.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            God didn’t make anyone LGBT. They chose that route. Period.

          • carrotcakeman

            Science has proven sexual orientation is inborn and unchangeable. Several US federal and several US State High Courts have examined that evidence and ruled that discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation is similarly unconstitutional as discrimination based on race because BOTH are IMMUTABLE characteristics. Who cares that a few anti-gays refuse to face the facts? Psychologists report that the most commonly observed symptom of the mental disorder homophobia is cognitive dissonance, an inability of those so afflicted to accept documentation that contradicts their deep-seated phobia and hatred of LGBT Americans.

          • QuadGMoto

            I’m sure that’s a huge surprise to those who no longer have same-sex attractions.

          • carrotcakeman

            Get real, there’s no such thing as “ex-gay.” Didn’t you hear the “ex-gays” themselves, like Alan Chambers and John Smid have publicly admitted that?

            Readers, just research what those former “ex-gays” say in the legitimate media. You’ll see Quad is LYING.

          • QuadGMoto

            Weren’t you the one accusing us of typing “IdontbelieveyouIdontbelieveyouIdontbelieveyouIdontbelieveyouIdontbelieveyouIdontbelieveyou”?

            Try living up to your own standards sometime.

          • carrotcakeman

            They themselves say it never happens, not I. Each and every person who CLAIMS to be “ex-gay” is clearly and obviously making MONEY with that CON. Not ONE of these so-called “ex-gays” has ever had that “change” confirmed by an independent psychologist. Two US States ban that fake nonsense for minors, and more US States are working on banning it there.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            “Science has proven sexual orientation is inborn and unchangeable.”

            Now, you should know better than to come in here and post that. Science hasn’t proven diddlysquat: 100% of those “findings” have been shown to be logically flawed, self-serving, or both.

            “Several US federal and several US State High Courts have examined that evidence and ruled that discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation is similarly unconstitutional as discrimination based on race because BOTH are IMMUTABLE characteristics.”

            They have? Name a few, along with citations and links.

            And if you cite Vaughn Walker, who is a homosexual, be prepared to be laughed off of the internet.

          • carrotcakeman

            Normal, non-homophobic readers know why you can’t or won’t accept the facts. Psychologists report that the most commonly observed symptom of the mental disorder homophobia is cognitive dissonance, an inability of those so afflicted to accept documentation that contradicts their deep-seated phobia and hatred of LGBT Americans.

            Your disbelief won’t make those facts go away, or fool any court anywhere in America.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Translation: When push comes to shove, you have nothing.

            Whatever credibility you have had, if you ever had any to begin with, is gallantly slipping away.

          • carrotcakeman

            LGBT Americans have the support of a strong majority of Americans, the President, the federal courts, and the United States Constitution.

            What you don’t seem to want to accept (either) is that I’m not trying to convince you, but whenever and wherever in America some anti-gay shrieks a LIE, a real American is going to debunk those lies. This is why the majority of Americans support LGBT Americans, they recognize anti-gays have been lying the same lies for over 40 years.

          • youngoldbones .

            Not all Lutherans, just the ELCA, and they are not evangelical.

          • youngoldbones .

            All the above are now part of the false church, congrats.

        • QuadGMoto

          Absolutely correct.

          My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.
          — Jesus, John 10:27

          So what does his voice say?

          He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”
          — Matthew 19:4–6

          So Jesus’ definition of marriage is One Man, One Woman, For Life. “Churches” that are not listening to Jesus’ voice are not following Him, and are thus, by definition, not Jesus’ church.

          • carrotcakeman

            If Scripture quoted Jesus as saying, “I like apples,” no rational person would interpret that to mean He also HATED oranges.

          • carrotcakeman

            “”Churches” that are not listening to Jesus’ voice are not following Him, and are thus, by definition, not Jesus’ church.”

            Yes, we’re all familiar with the desire by anti-gays to force everyone into sharing their peculiar beliefs not supported by Scriptures.

          • QuadGMoto

            It says what it says. I feel sorry for you.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            But the Bible doesn’t condone homosexuality. It is referred to solely and specifically as a sin.

            Those who have actually read the Bible knows this.

          • carrotcakeman

            Then why is it more Christian and Jewish denominations are marrying same gender couples than those few who have committed criminal acts in violation of campaign finance laws to throw anti-gay Hate Votes and poison our political process?

            You’re entitled to believe any silly fantasy based on fake Bible passages you like, just don’t think anyone is going to be fooled by such false claims.

          • RhondaStar

            It’s called apostasy.

          • carrotcakeman

            No, it’s called an attempt by anti-gays to deprive all Americans of our Freedom Of Religion, and it has already failed.

          • QuadGMoto

            Did I say “hated”? Did Jesus say “hated”? All He said is “this is the definition of marriage. Period.” Everything outside that definition, then, is contrary to His teaching.

          • carrotcakeman

            No, He DID NOT say that. You FANTASIZED that.

          • RhondaStar

            You really are warped.

          • carrotcakeman

            Anti-gays routinely respond to their lies being debunked with a personal attack. Americans have noticed that. It’s one of the reasons Americans have rejected, condemned and defeated the anti-gay agenda.

          • RhondaStar

            It’s the other way around as this video demonstrates.

          • carrotcakeman

            This FAKE video doesn’t fool anyone except those who WANT to be FOOLED by it. Psychologists report that the most commonly observed symptom of the mental disorder homophobia is cognitive dissonance, an inability of those so afflicted to accept documentation that contradicts their deep-seated phobia and hatred of LGBT Americans.

          • RhondaStar

            Exactly right. Also good Greek stuff on pais too.

          • carrotcakeman

            What you two have got to learn to accept is that no other Americans are interested in your anti-gay Satanic cult and its “beliefs.”

      • youngoldbones .

        Like the Lutherans? I mean the ELCA, the vote on which the aftermath being a tornado that toppled the cross (upside down) over the church near where the vote took place. God does send signs, even today.

        • carrotcakeman

          Threatening others with your deity is still a threat, since you haven’t proven the existence of your deity. Please take responsibility for your own immoral behavior.

          • youngoldbones .

            it suffices for me to know you WILL answer to him. It matters not that you don’t believe. Whether you believe or not, you will see him and answer for your support of grievous sin.

          • carrotcakeman

            I have no fear of Jesus, because I know what Jesus really thought and did. Jesus affirmed a gay couple. Read Matthew 8:5-13 and Luke 7:1-10. Many of us are familiar with the Gospel story where Jesus healed the servant of a Roman centurion. In the original Greek, the word that the Roman centurion uses in this passage to describe the sick man – pais – is the same word used in ancient Greek to refer to a same-gender partner.

            Don’t bother to tell me that Satan told you not to believe that.

          • youngoldbones .

            No, wrong, he did not. You are falling for Gay theology. In fact Jesus Christ is God. So as God he is the same today tomorrow and everyday, he has the same view of homosexuality as God in the old testament. And God in every text in the Bible abominates homosexuality which is an obvious Satanic corruption of his perfect design.

          • carrotcakeman

            Who cares if a few anti-gays refuse to believe the Bible?

          • youngoldbones .

            They should, it will keep them from salvation.

    • youngoldbones .

      These homosexual people are blinded by their sin, so you will see more of these outrageous acts of violence and abuse. They are angry. They think that gaining marriage will free them from their guilt. It won’t. They will just go on hating themselves because their SIN convicts them even more than any Christian group ever could. They will continue in their self destructive behavior and they will lash out at any who will make themselves targets by opposing their sin.

      • carrotcakeman

        Spare us your desperate attempts to fool readers into believing the fake video and the fake documents on their deceptive website. Spare us your bizarre fantasies about LGBT Americans. There’s no substantive difference between your fantasy that “gays are angry,” and “continue in their self destructive behavior” than those anti-gays who foolishly reveal they–like YOU–fantasize about “gay sex.” Isn’t that the “destructive behavior” you’re fantasizing about?

        Readers who would like to see the scientific evidence for why that anti-gay poster is so obsessed with what he IMAGINES same gender couples do in private should Google “Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.”

        • youngoldbones .

          Witch trial and McCarthy argument of self incrimination put to good use for your movement. Yet demonstrably false, just as was its use in the Witch Trials and the McCarthy Trials.

          • carrotcakeman

            Just how many times is some anti-gay gonna WHINE that his intended LGBT victims is “the real bully”? With all the millions of times the few remaining anti-gays have shrieked that same lie–and with not ONE normal, non-homophobic individual falling for that lie–isn’t it time anti-gays cooked up a whole new, original anti-gay LIE and started fresh? It’s obvious that LIE has FAILED.

          • youngoldbones .

            When you stop trying to bully your way into the school system to corrupt our children maybe we can talk. We never had a problem letting you people cut your path though to destruction in the past. Live your life, but also reap the results. But when you try to involve OUR kids then its another matter and had to be addressed.

          • carrotcakeman

            Why would Americans want to “talk” with the few remaining anti-gays? LGBT Americans don’t need your support, they already have the support of the majority of Americans, the President, and the courts.

          • youngoldbones .

            Americans in general are “live and let live” these are the people who however WILL come out when they come to realize that the actual target of all this “gay rights” agitation is to indoctrinate their Children. Just wait for it. The awakening is due just as soon as the penny drops.

          • carrotcakeman

            How’d that work out for anti-gays in California in 2011? Anti-gays sent out FOUR petitions for yet another anti-gay Hate Vote, in that case to revoke the FAIR Education Act–but couldn’t fool even ONE PER CENT of California voters to sign their petitions. California voters were not fooled, and anti-gays proved beyond a shadow of a doubt what a tiny group they are.

          • youngoldbones .

            The populace sees the writing on the wall, just ask Brendan Eich what happens when you stick your neck out for your scruples. However, that won’t hold when it is our children at risk. Just wait.

          • carrotcakeman

            You sure keep changing subjects as I debunk your many anti-gay lies. Didn’t you read that Americans are NOT fooled by your claims about “our children at risk”?

            Three board members of Mozilla resigned, stating publicly it had nothing to do with Eich’s attempt to HURT same gender California couples, but his total lack of management skills. Americans are aware that anti-gays are LYING about this situation also.

          • youngoldbones .

            Most Americans aren’t “not fooled” rather they are unaware of the larger plans of the fascist gay mafia. But when they learn, you will see.

          • carrotcakeman

            Wrong again, most Americans know the agenda of LGBT Americans is just FIVE WORDS:

            EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW.

            Please learn to accept that shrieking your same anti-gay lies fools no one.

          • youngoldbones .

            But they don’t know what “equal protection” really means, it means that homosexual behavior MUST be given EQUAL exposure in all public and government offices including schools, which means homosexuals WILL have access to your childs mind, reshaping it to learn about, accept and experiment with homosexuality. Since a large percentage of Gay men point to an experience of sexual abuse with an older man or boy, who knows what harm such indoctrination can cause.

          • carrotcakeman

            You keep screaming that, but when anti-gays advertized those same LIES in California in 2011, they fooled no one, as I have already demonstrated.

          • carrotcakeman

            “Since a large percentage of Gay men point to an experience of sexual abuse with an older man or boy”

            Anyone who can get to this web page can also see the evidence that debunks that standard anti-gay LIE.

          • youngoldbones .

            And their are just as many sites that debunk the debunkers. Who needs these sites? Not I, I can see the truth and homosexuality is evil and ugly. Your gay pride parades an abomination and one day, you will know the extent of this evil that you helped perpetuate with your participation and support.

          • carrotcakeman

            “Your gay pride parades an abomination”

            You’re one of the creeps at the shadows with the cameras with telephoto lenses, huh?

          • youngoldbones .

            No I’m the one desperately ashamed of how my fellow males carry on behaving like vile deranged animals.

            no strike that, animals have more decorum and dignity that you people.

          • carrotcakeman

            “my fellow males carry on behaving like vile deranged animals.”

            Please clean up your mommy’s computer before she gets home.

          • youngoldbones .

            Do you hate your Mommy the way you hate all women? Just asking.

          • RhondaStar

            You’re the ones who creep around telling lies. Have you seen this story on BarbWire today: The Love of Hate: Homosexual Martyrdom Complex. You’ll “love” it!

          • QuadGMoto

            “Equal”

            “HYou keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”
            — Inego Montoya

          • carrotcakeman

            Such desperation on the part of anti-gays. The federal judges–eight of them–who have ruled against anti-gays since last December will not be fooled by such nonsense.

          • youngoldbones .

            Thats because this country is now ruled by the spirit of atheism/satanism. I imagine all manner of evil coming our way, but for you who embrace that, nothing better can come.

          • carrotcakeman

            Oh, yes, the “everyone is evil who won’t help anti-gays hurt LGBT Americans” nonsense.

          • youngoldbones .

            Not tiny, just culled of cowards. But eventually even those too intimidated to support what is right will throw off the oppression of the gay fascists and then you will all see, you went too far.

          • carrotcakeman

            Less than 1%, and there are fewer anti-gays every day, as can be proven by the continuing rapid increase in SUPPORT for LGBT Americans, although, as you mentioned, you cannot believe the polls because they don’t convenience your anti-gay agenda, they tell the truth.

          • youngoldbones .

            Speaking of percentages, far from being 10% of the population, you deviates only compromise less than 3%. But if you help each other get yourselves into key positions, or even just the whisper that gays are in key positions, this is enough to silence a great many people, who unlike Brendan Eich, need their jobs. You people are disgusting. Your vile lust rules you.

          • carrotcakeman

            “Your vile lust rules you.”

            It seems what you fantasize about LGBT Americans doing in private rules YOU. Please continue to make a fool of yourself. Please continue to destroy your own anti-gay agenda.

          • youngoldbones .

            Homosexuality is pure sexual narcissism, its disgusting. You love a mirror image of yourself. How can anyone be into what they themselves already are. It’s perverse.

          • carrotcakeman

            You sure do spend an awful lot of time fantasizing about “gay sex.” How did that work out for anti-gays at the US Supreme Court last summer? How did that work out in Maine, Maryland, Minnesota and Washington State in November 2012 for anti-gays?

          • carrotcakeman

            Another quick subject change, huh?

          • carrotcakeman

            “Live your life, but also reap the results.”

            The result of the hard work done by LGBT Americans is the revocation of DADT and DOMA, the revocation of anti-gay Hate Votes, and the quick establishment, state by state, of marriage equality.

          • youngoldbones .

            The result of which is that when service men are sexually violated by gay soldiers they will not be able or willing to report it. Because it will be not politically correct to point a finger at a gay serviceman or superior to implicate him. Already the armed forces are feeling the impact of OUT and proud gay men demoralizing and adversely affecting the effectiveness of our military. Yeah, you all have made great strides for evil.

          • carrotcakeman

            See, you’re telling us AGAIN you fantasize about “gay sex,” and this time, you’ve included rape.

          • carrotcakeman

            “Already the armed forces are feeling the impact of OUT”

            Where’s your evidence? The military itself say the revocation of DADT has been a success. Maybe Russia feels it’s a failure, since the revocation of DADT means America’s military is MORE PREPARED.

          • youngoldbones .

            There are case of serviceman who had nearly been raped by his commanding officer. I heard it on the radio. If it pleases you to think that all of your detractors are secretly gay, who cares, what does that say about your own kind if you think that homosexuals are all so schizoid that they can hold two conflicting opinions at the same time? It means that you view your own mind in such a way, So you DO know that homosexuality is wrong and you merely suppress the truth. It matters not to me what you think I am. I know what I am, and I wish homosexuals had their own planet. They and their behavior is a shame and a disgrace.

          • carrotcakeman

            “I heard it on the radio.”

            Lush Rimbaugh or Glen Beck?

          • carrotcakeman

            “secretly gay”

            No, just “wannabe homosexuals.” “Gay” means out and proud.

          • carrotcakeman

            “It matters not to me what you think I am.”

            Then why are you spamming this board with those same old anti-gay LIES, again and again and again?

          • youngoldbones .

            Its like Michael Palin once said, I came here for a good argument.

            And you aren’t providing one. Just a bizarre flurry of Demonic lies.

          • carrotcakeman

            No, you came in a failed attempt to infect others with the mental disorder, homophobia.

          • QuadGMoto

            A good argument is not bald contradiction.

            “Yes it is.”

            “No it’s not.” ;-)

          • youngoldbones .

            Classic episode.

          • youngoldbones .

            Proud of sodomy, really? You really must be brain dead to be proud of such a repellant activity.

          • carrotcakeman

            You’ve just posted another of your fantasies about “gay sex.” And no amount of calling it “repellent” changes the fact you spend your time fantasizing about it.

          • youngoldbones .

            Your defense argument is laughable. You regularly willingly place your extremeties in feces. you are more filthy than any animal.

          • youngoldbones .

            American Family Radio. They interviewed a former General. Someone who knows the service.

          • carrotcakeman

            Right-wing talk radio. Thanks for admitting it wasn’t a legitimate news source.

          • youngoldbones .

            They are the only news source that isn’t muzzled by PC fear the source of which are the forces that got Brendan Eich expelled from his own company. Nuff said.

          • RhondaStar

            Here are some illegitimate homosexual lies: The Love of Hate: Homosexual Martyrdom Complex. You’ll “love” it!

        • youngoldbones .

          There is no “evidence” no actual self respecting scientist without a drum to beat would ever devolve into the type of experiments you queers point to. You people are the most miserable and deluded, corrupt of mind and purpose people on the face of the earth. What a life you lead. How sad.

          • carrotcakeman

            Anti-gays routinely stoop to posting vicious personal attacks when we observe their fantasizing about “gay sex.” Many Americans say they came to support marriage equality and their family members, friends, neighbors and coworkers when they first saw the sort of filth anti-gays are flinging at their intended LGBT victims. Thank you for helping to destroy your own anti-gay agenda.

          • youngoldbones .

            You “observe it” ROFL! Really, HOW does that happen?

          • carrotcakeman

            You wrote it, I laughed–and so will other readers.

          • youngoldbones .

            Nonsensical reply, just what I expected. LMAO.

          • carrotcakeman

            You’re the one who told everyone you fantasize about “their self destructive behavior,”and I’m the one who provided readers with the path to the scientific studies that have proven why anti-gays fantasize about “gay sex.” So, in your lexicon, “nonsensical” means “totally destroys the anti-gay agenda.” Gotcha…

          • youngoldbones .

            I know you are a puppet of Satan because everything you write here is sprinkled with his lies, “fantasize’ isn’t a word that even crossed my commentary here. You are fully in the grip of Satan. Enjoy the wages thereof.

          • carrotcakeman

            Sweetie, you’re the one who just told us what part of Satan’s anatomy you’re fantasizing about. People all over America are laughing at you right now.

          • youngoldbones .

            Are you sure it isn’t just the multitude of demons rattling around in your head who are laughing, I’m sure its easy for you to make that mistake, you’re being possessed by demonic forces and all.

          • youngoldbones .

            Let me guess, you get some idiots off the street, a queer with a clip board and a publisher willing to print all manner of lies. Yeah thats the recipe. Like I said, no self respecting scientist or behavioralist is or was involved in anything which proves your untenable position. We laugh in your faces when you posit such fallacies.

          • carrotcakeman

            We even know why anti-gays won’t admit ALL polls are showing a strong majority of Americans support marriage equality. Psychologists report that the most commonly observed symptom of the mental disorder homophobia is cognitive dissonance, an inability of those so afflicted to accept documentation that contradicts their deep-seated phobia and hatred of LGBT Americans.

          • youngoldbones .

            More bullsh** straight from Satan’s Rectum. ROFL.

          • carrotcakeman

            Do you really think telling us just what kind of “gay sex” you fantasize about will advance your failed anti-gay agenda?

          • youngoldbones .

            You seem hysterically “married” to your delusions about every man being gay. I guess you think women are unlovable? Do you really hate the opposite sex that much?

          • carrotcakeman

            I’m not the one who’s hysterical, sweetie. I’m winning.

          • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

            You have seen Satan’s rectum? Was Satan the top?

          • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

            Funny, by simply *describing* what it is homosexuals do, you risk getting banned for posting filth.

            We’re not talking graphic descriptions either. Take for instance:

            “In his article, “The Health Risks of Gay Sex,” medical doctor John R. Diggs, Jr. writes that “The current media portrayal of gay and lesbian relationships is that they are as healthy, stable and loving as heterosexual marriages — or even more so. Medical associations are promoting somewhat similar messages.” But that portrayal is not consistent with facts.

            Dr. Diggs warns that the consequences of homosexual sexual activity are distinct from the consequences of heterosexual activity. Just as it is his duty as a physician to recommend behaviors that are beneficial to our health and wellbeing, likewise it is his duty to inform patients of the health risks of gay sex — “Sexual relationships between members of the same sex expose gays, lesbians and bisexuals to extreme risks of Sexually Transmitted Diseases (STDs), physical injuries, mental disorders and even a shortened life span.”

            Thus, the TRUTH is offensive.

            So be it.

          • youngoldbones .

            Well said

      • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

        Wow, nice to know that you’re such an expert on the “gay mind”. I didn’t know all that about myself. I am happy, stable, and saved by Christ. Quit stereotyping and start accepting the fact that gay people are going to be a part of the rest of your life, unless you hide in a bunker.

        • youngoldbones .

          The very first thing homosexual advocates do when they try to convince people that an historic figure from the past was homosexual, is that they try to point to evidence that the man in question “hated women”. That being the case by extension homosexual advocates are admitting that they themselves hate women.

    • RhondaStar

      Have you seen this story on BarbWire today: The Love of Hate: Homosexual Martyrdom Complex. You’ll “love” it!

      • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

        Yes, and I agree that fake hate crimes should be dealt with according to the law. You cannot defend someone who fakes this kind of thing. The sad part is that they are making it harder for people to believe when it really happens. And, no, I have never been part of a hate-crime. The bigotry and discrimination I have received have been verbal, but not criminal.

  • Theodore Fenton

    Hate begets hate.

    • thisoldspouse

      Ape has killed ape.

      Do you have a point?

      • carrotcakeman

        He does, you just don’t want to admit it.

        • thisoldspouse

          Empty, intellectually bereft slogans are worth all the derision that can be thrown at them.

          • carrotcakeman

            If the slogan was so empty, why did you whine about it twice?

          • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

            LOL.

          • youngoldbones .

            You’re the one whining here.

      • youngoldbones .

        LOL

  • Martin Rizley

    I notice that the LGBT defenders keep pointing to one and only one group that claimed to be Christian but clearly is not as an example of alleged “Christian violence”– Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist church. The number of violent physical attacks by leftist radicals is on the rise– however. Consider the recent incident at a college in California where a professor who teaches “pornography” classes on campus physically attacked a girl who was holding up a pro-life poster. Later I read that the number of student signatures defending the violent agressor numbered 2000, while the number of student signature defending the freedom of the pro-life girl to be on campus and express her viewpoint numbered only only 150. Young people in our colleges are being trained in complete intolerance and hatred of Christianity, and that fury is now beginning to burst out in acts of violence against Christians. We are likely to see more violence as Christians speak out more openly against abortion, sexual immorality and deviancy, and other evils in our society.

    • carrotcakeman

      Just ONE? Hardly. The Southern Poverty Law Center identifies over 30 anti-gay Hate Cults.

      • RhondaStar

        The SPLC is a fraud, and that’s why the government is now abandoning them as a source.

        • carrotcakeman

          Psychologists report that the most commonly observed symptom of the mental disorder homophobia is cognitive dissonance, an inability of those so afflicted to accept documentation that contradicts their deep-seated phobia and hatred of LGBT Americans.

          • carrotcakeman

            “that’s why the government is now abandoning them as a source.”

            Documentation? I’ve posted FBI documentation.

          • carrotcakeman

            I’m still waiting for your documentation, Mr. Starr.

      • Martin Rizley

        The SPLC is a hate group. Its list of so-called hate groups is wildly inaccurate, for they have put Christian organizations like the American Family Association on its list, which has never advocated violence against anyone. The SPLC cannot begin to be taken seriously as a source of information, for they are not only outrageously biased against Christians, but even criminally deceitful in their reporting. They constitute a true hate group in America– hateful toward any group that advocates maintaining Judeo-Christian moral standards as the foundation of our civil code. By their criteria, all previous generations of Americans would have to be considered terrorists for denying (as the AFA does) that same-sex couples have a constitutional right to obtain a legal marriage to each other.

  • George Rogers Clark

    Believers do not hate gays. The TFP members were exercising their 1st Amendment rights. The intolerance of their attackers is not a matter of question. The hatred of the attackers is clearly expressed. The 1st Amendment rights are among those the Declaration of Independence considers “unalienable” rights granted by God. When the gay-stapo want to force acceptance of their choices; choices they have made based on their rebellion to a God who loves them (more than I), then their intolerant and hateful behavior should be recorded and exposed. Their conduct is offensive to me, but worse, it is heartbreaking to God, who loves them. He wants them to cease their rebellion and embrace Him, before it is too late.

    • carrotcakeman

      I think what this poster is trying to say is, “No one can challenge these wild claims by anti-gays.” Too bad that the majority of Americans who support LGBT Americans are so used to anti-gays lying.

      • George Rogers Clark

        Trying to bait us, carrotman? Trying to put words in my mouth so that you can change the narrative to suit your purposes? And how about that little spin you tried, “the majority of Americans who support LGBT Americans …” Nice try, but the majority who support LGBT is a very limited minority of the total. Did you suggest I was anti-gay? Anyone who reads my first comment will see that I am pro-God and suggested that Anonymous (or is she you) embrace the God that loved him/her. “Love thy neighbor as thyself.” I am trying. Please understand I have no interest in an intellectual sparring event with you or anyone. I am not that insecure. I have nothing to prove. I love my God and my Country more than politics or ideology. I recommend it as a “liberating” experience.

        • carrotcakeman

          Nope, just having a good, hearty laugh at anti-gays, just like most Americans do when late night TV comics hold up anti-gays as America’s Laughingstocks®.

          • George Rogers Clark

            There you go again. By saying, “Most Americans” do you think people will believe there is a majority on your side? Do you take good, honest, traditional values Americans for fools? And you keep saying “anti-gays.” You think it works for you. If I stopped trying to “love my neighbor..” and called you anti-God, would it trouble your thoughts.. enough to give you a moment’s pause? Good. Think about it.

          • carrotcakeman

            Anyone who visits a legitimate media site can see the evidence that 59% of Americans now support marriage equality. Please don’t try to drag Americans down to the level of anti-gays. No, not one single lie you may tell would trouble my thoughts except to feel sorry for anyone who made his whole life revolve around trying to hurt people you don’t know and who have never done you any harm–despite the wild and unsubstantiated claims made by anti-gays.

          • carrotcakeman

            By what name should we call the group of Americans that hate and fear LGBT Americans and that have organized to try to hurt LGBT Americans and deprive LGBT Americans of equality, and subvert the United States Constitution in their desperate attempt to force their agenda on all Americans?

            First of all, the name can’t be a pejorative. Even though the members of this group routinely use the most demeaning, degrading, demonizing and dehumanizing terms to refer to LGBT Americans, we can’t stoop to their level.

            Also, we can’t call them “homophobes,” since the term “homophobia” has been used as the name for a mental disorder for over 50 years. Even the many psychologists and psychiatrists in our community can’t diagnose a patient’s mental disorders without an examination, and that would be unpleasant for us, wouldn’t it?

            The term that may be most appropriate is “anti-gays.” It isn’t insulting, it’s simply a concise statement of fact. The strongest unifying characteristic of the group is being anti-gay. True, it’s ironic that we’d give some consideration to the feelings of a group united in dedication to making LGBT Americans suffer and that make no effort whatsoever to treat us with common decency, but there are standards to being an American that we will meet or exceed no matter how low the anti-gays sink. Yes, the anti-gays will whine about this and insist that LGBT Americans, as well as our families, friends, neighbors, coworkers, and all the other Americans that love and support us, are the ones who “hate” them because we defend ourselves and our common freedom and equality. The anti-gays attack our supporters by saying they must be gay, too, so, yes, it’s our supporters’ battle as well.

    • KingArthur

      Isn’t it time you started thinking? And using might FOR right instead of might makes right? The thing you call god in the Bible is no more real than what WE make it. And not everyone is in agreement that such is god at all. It’s a fairly psychopathic framework, man made because that is how man thinks, not God. Wake up, it’s a man made creation. It is now being uncreated, torn down, by the public majority because of staged actions such as these by these inciteful demostrators with signs. They are more offensive than the Phelps clan because they won’t just come out and say, “god hates fags” which is what is in their blackened minds. They cover it up with “support traditional marriage”. Well who doesn’t? So why even say it? Unless to incite. And incite they did. And now people are leaving religions, and they should! They are seeing how degrading it is at its core, and how truly evil it really is.

      The demonstrators got what they had coming to them, and the courts and the majority will admonish them and vote them down every time. They have lost before they started because they use baseless tactics most don’t relate to.

      Good going blokes who broke their bonds. THEY NEED a good whack to the head to start thinking and stop hating.
      God is only love, period. We make our own rules in this world. Get used to it, or fall.

  • Gregory Alan of Johnson

    Might be time to take the “Jericho” approach on doing these sort of things.
    I suggest setting the Spiritual atmosphere first before showing up for a public display. This means prayer-walking the area in question days or weeks in advance. I’ve found when this is done those under Lucifer’s influence either don’t show or don’t manifest near as much.

  • Stephen Wilson

    I would also suggest you guys start having security surrounding you in the future before someone gets seriously hurt. Big dudes (call them David’s Warriors) in the area have a way of discouraging the cowards from taking a step.

  • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

    Actions like this do not represent the views of the majority of the LGBT community. To judge all of us by these extremists actions is disengenuous.

    • thisoldspouse

      Then, condemn those who commit them. (crickets.)

      • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

        I already did. They should have been arrested if they broke any laws.

        • thisoldspouse

          There’s the convenient “if” thrown in there.

          DID they break any laws? (assault) Yes or no.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Did the police charge them?

          • carrotcakeman

            The police weren’t involved, that would have exposed the anti-gays to arrest for making false police reports.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Convenient for your argument, eh?

          • carrotcakeman

            Convenient for the anti-gays’ wild claims…

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            At least our claims are backed in verifiable research.

          • QuadGMoto

            Someone did link to a page which links to scans of three the official documents relating to three of the filmed incidents? His inevitable response? Fingers in the ears, “La La LA, I can’t HEAR you!!”

            This guy doesn’t care about the truth in the slightest. Don’t bother wasting any more time on him.

          • carrotcakeman

            The anti-gays faked the video. So they also faked police reports. Not fooled…

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            And yet the authorities did not find what happened as worthy of investigations. I guess all cops are gay, too LOL!

          • QuadGMoto

            Two of the three were communications from prosecutors. One stated that the offender had been placed into a program for first time offenders, i.e., convicted. The other requesting information needed for the case.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Then why are you complaining? Justice was done. Seriously, even when you win, you whine.

          • QuadGMoto

            Sigh. Now you’re moving the goalposts just as much as carrotcakeman. Suddenly, after being shown that assault was committed (which a wrong done that cannot be undone, only punished) and arrests were made proving that point, you suddenly shift the claim to whining. These assaults should never happen in the first place. That they do, and so regularly to boot, shows which side resorts to violence because they don’t have a valid argument.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            No, it only shows how the authorities view these so-called terrorist events – standard crimes not worthy of mention. Ill side with them.

          • QuadGMoto

            Terrorism statutes only apply when people committing the crimes are part of an organized conspiracy. I highly doubt that is the case for these crimes. Therefore, appropriate justice is being applied.

            However, that does not mean there is not a pattern of violence and aggression among homosexual activists and those who support homosexuality. That pattern is very, very real even without active participation in an organization. This video demonstrates only a very small portion of that hostility and hate, ranging from swearing and obscene gestures all the way through prosecutable assaults and lawfare.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            While those actions were not justified, welcome to our world.

          • youngoldbones .

            What world is your world? The world of Hate? Exactly. Self hate and Hatred of the truth.
            By the way, the Rainbow belongs to God. It is his covenant symbol. The fact that homosexuals appropriate it to signify their sin is just another bold sign that homosexuality is of the spirit of Satan.

          • carrotcakeman

            I’m surprised you didn’t WHINE about LGBT Americans choosing to refer to themselves by a respectful term instead of the hate word you used. Your religious fantasies are your problem, and will only make Americans assume Satan is your God.

          • youngoldbones .

            Drivel! You’re becoming boring. All you have is an hysterical dialog of accusation as if all men are gay and secretly want gay sex. You know what that shows me? That you have a VERY low opinion of women. Actually that shows quite obviously in the fashion industry, it is the homosexual who causes anorexia on young girls because you benighted queers are so desirous of the form of adolescent boys that you fashion for women dresses that will only fit a half starved woman. You have a TOXIC effect on women. A woman’s natural form is hateful to you narcissists so you corrupt even that. Sick.

          • youngoldbones .

            Funny I was thinking the same thing about you.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            My world is the world of Christ. However, in my post i was referring to the fact that you are “upset” that someone got attacked for their beliefs. Your hate and bigotry is what reinforces these incidents. Take responsibility for the violence caused by your hate.

          • QuadGMoto

            Remember, Jesus (and his disciples) were killed for telling the truth. Why should should we expect things to be any different today?

            The Bible is crystal clear that homosexual behavior is a sin. But agreeing with God and saying so is called “hate and bigotry”. So who is responsible for that? God? Or those who hate Him?

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            But that’s the point. God is not on your side. You are so deluded by Satan and your hate.

          • QuadGMoto

            That argument doesn’t make any kind of sense.

            You claim to be part of “the world of Christ.” By necessity, that means that you follow God’s word as recorded in the Bible.

            The thing about God being god is, well, that He is GOD! What He says goes. Period. When He says that He will punish someone for committing sin, then He will.

            Here’s where the key disconnect is in that argument: Warning someone of that fact so they can avoid punishment is not hate by any measure I can come up with. On the other hand, pushing people to do what God will punish them for strikes me as the ultimate hate.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            It makes no sense because you haven’t read the Bible. Try it sometime. Taking individual verses out of context is amateurish. I’ve read it cover to cover and read it every day. The greatest commandment is what? Leviticus is still culturally relevant? Shellfish anyone? I’m sure none of that made sense to you either. True Christians are embarrassed that you, like westboro, use their title.

          • QuadGMoto

            Shellfish? Really? That was part of the Old Covenant given only to Israel.

            “Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the LORD.
            — Jeremiah 31:31–32

            And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood.
            — Luke 22:20

            If you’re one of the descendants of those brought out of Egypt, by all means, continue talking about shellfish and other laws given to the Nation of Israel. And if you’re so “Bible smart”, perhaps you can explain the role of blood in a covenant.

            Feel free to read the context in full of the following passages:

            And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful to divorce one’s wife for any cause?” He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” They said to him, “Why then did Moses command one to give a certificate of divorce and to send her away?” He said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”

            The disciples said to him, “If such is the case of a man with his wife, it is better not to marry.” But he said to them, “Not everyone can receive this saying, but only those to whom it is given. For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let the one who is able to receive this receive it.”
            — Matthew 19:3–12

            Wait a minute. Jesus just defined marriage as explicitly one man married to one woman for life defined for all humanity at the very beginning of the human race. And He tightened the law given by Moses, not loosened it. Where is the room for homosexuality in that?

            Even worse:

            “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.
            — Matthew 5:27–30

            So here’s Jesus telling His audience that merely looking at a woman lustfully is sinful, and using hyperbole to show entirely how serious it is. But you’re trying to tell us that two guys going all the way is just fine with Jesus? Seriously? That is full bore ridiculous on so many levels!

            But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a person. For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. These are what defile a person.
            — Matthew 15:18–20

            What is “sexual immorality” to a Jew living in first century Israel? That’s quite simple: the sexual morality defined by the Old Testament, which quite simply is any sexual activity outside of marriage, the one defined as one man, one woman, for life.

            Then we get to passages like this:

            For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.

            Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.

            For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

            And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.
            — Romans 1:18–32

            Pray tell, what is unclear or “out of context” of that passage?

            Then of course, there is the classic simple list:

            Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

            “All things are lawful for me,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful for me,” but I will not be dominated by anything. “Food is meant for the stomach and the stomach for food”—and God will destroy both one and the other. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. And God raised the Lord and will also raise us up by his power. Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? Never! Or do you not know that he who is joined to a prostitute becomes one body with her? For, as it is written, “The two will become one flesh.” But he who is joined to the Lord becomes one spirit with him. Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.
            — 1 Corinthians 6:9–20

            Oh, wait. The full context is even more aggressively against sexual misbehavior than the simple quoted list.

            Care to try your “out of context” claim again? Sorry, but if you think I haven’t read the Bible, you are barking up the wrong tree in the wrong forest. Not only do I read it constantly, I constantly study both it and its history, dig into its original languages, and teach as well. I take 2 Timothy 2:15 and 3:16 very seriously.

            (Here’s a quiz for you: what Greek idiom is used in 1 Tim 2:15 describing how to handle the scriptures?)

          • youngoldbones .

            God is always on the side of truth. Homosexual behavior is FAR from the truth, it is the abuse of the purpose for which the sexual organs were created. Homosexuality is a corruption of God’s creation Which is exactly what Satan seeks to do, at every turn Satan contradicts the goodness of God and the life that comes from proper sexual behavior. Proper sexual behavior means monogamous marriage, a stable family parents for every child. A healthy loving environment. Satan’s way, prevent the child from birth, by abortion, by fouling man/woman relationship with easy divorce, and finally by preventing Man and Woman joining with one another in the first place, homosexuality.

            You are SO not on God’s side. You are of Satan and his evil plans to circumvent life at all costs.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            My Jesus, who saved me from my sins, would disagree with you, and for you to claim that I am from Satan is basically calling God a liar. Dangerous ground, youngoldbones.

          • QuadGMoto

            And yet you have not responded to all the passages I posted from the Bible where God defines marriage (which does not include same-sex “marriage”) and clearly states that homosexual behavior is a sin. (Just scroll down a little.)

            He is not calling God a liar. He is agreeing with God’s written word. You are the one disagreeing with that written word.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            I have responded in the past with VERY lengthy posts outlining your mistakes. But I will pull one or two here:

            1. The only time Jesus mentions man-woman marriage is in response to an idiotic question from a Pharisee: “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for just any reason?” The Pharisee was obviously trying to trip up Jesus in Jewish law. Since the Pharisee specifically asked about a man-woman marriage, Jesus answered it in that regard. Jesus never mentions nor condemns same-sex marriage. For you to say differently is a lie from the pit.

            2. Many Christians point to the Old Testament for verses affirming their anti-gay stance, specifically Leviticus. My answer is always this: Read the whole book. It also says it is a sin to eat shellfish. When anti-gay Christians are asked about this, they always answer the same way: “Jesus did away with the old laws with the new covenant.” I agree. But if you are going to say that “some” of the Levitical laws are no longer relevant, then you can’t be upset when someone claims that also – about homosexuality.

            3. Some anti-gay people bring up verses in Romans (by Paul) about this. They claim that Romans is very clear about homosexuality. But what they don’t mention is that just a few verses later, Paul is “very clear” that allowing women to speak in church is a sin, and that they should ask their husbands for spiritual wisdom.” All anti-gay Christians have “dismissed” that part and openly ignore it.

            My point is this: The only way to be an anti-gay Christian is to pick and choose which verses in the Bible are still true, and which are not-so-much. I did the research. I’ve read the Bible cover to cover many times. If you want a Biblical debate on this issue, I’m happy to oblige.

          • Truth Offends

            Are you saying you believe men having sex with other men is not a sin?

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Outside of marriage: No.

          • QuadGMoto

            “For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, coveting, wickedness, deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within, and they defile a person.”
            — Jesus, Mark 7:21–23

            That word translated as “sensuality” is aselgeia. Here is the definition:

            aselgeia, as f: behavior completely lacking in moral restraint, usually with the implication of sexual licentiousness — ‘licentious behavior, extreme immorality.’ <sentence in Greek> ‘they have not repented of the filthy things they have done, their immorality and licentious deeds’ 2Cor 12:21. In some languages the equivalent of ‘licentious behavior’ would be ‘to live like a dog’ or ‘to act like a goat’ or ‘to be a rooster,’ in each instance pertaining to promiscuous sexual behavior.

            — “GREEK–ENGLISH LEXICON OF THE NEW TESTAMENT BASED ON SEMANTIC DOMAINS,” Louw & Nida

            More passages:

            The night is far gone; the day is at hand. So then let us cast off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light. Let us walk properly as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and sensuality, not in quarreling and jealousy. But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires.
            — Romans 13:12–14

            I fear that when I come again my God may humble me before you, and I may have to mourn over many of those who sinned earlier and have not repented of the impurity, sexual immorality, and sensuality that they have practiced.
            — 2 Corinthians 12:21

            But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
            — Galatians 5:18–21

            Now this I say and testify in the Lord, that you must no longer walk as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their minds. They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, due to their hardness of heart. They have become callous and have given themselves up to sensuality, greedy to practice every kind of impurity.
            — Ephesians 4:17–19

            For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

            But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
            — 2 Peter 1:21–2:3

            These [false teachers] are waterless springs and mists driven by a storm. For them the gloom of utter darkness has been reserved. For, speaking loud boasts of folly, they entice by sensual passions of the flesh those who are barely escaping from those who live in error. They promise them freedom, but they themselves are slaves of corruption. For whatever overcomes a person, to that he is enslaved. For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first.
            — 2 Peter 2:17–20

            But he who is joined to the Lord becomes one spirit with him. Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.
            — 1 Corinthians 6:17–18

            But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints.
            — Ephesians 5:3

            Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. On account of these the wrath of God is coming.
            — Colossians 3:5–6

            For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality; that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God;
            — 1 Thessalonians 4:3–5

            just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.
            — Jude 7

            There is nowhere, No. Where., Not. One. Single. Place. where the Bible says homosexuality or any other kind of sex outside of a one man, one woman marriage is acceptable. None. Yet as I have just demonstrated with some of the passages addressing the subject, the Bible consistently and repeatedly and in no uncertain terms condemns all extra-marital sexual activity using all-encompassing language. Yet you laughably claim otherwise.

            Sorry, whatever religion you are following, it is clearly not Biblical Christianity. That is crystal clear. I only hope you recognize it and stop following a Jesus of your own creation to follow the real Lamb of God.

            And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
            — 1 Corinthians 6:11

            Please, look up that word “sanctified” in a good theological dictionary. Proudly proclaiming your sin defines you and that it is not sin does not fit within what sanctification is.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Are you not reading my posts? Are you some anti-gay bot? I’m looking to discuss this issue with adults. Jesus does not condemn gay sex or gay marriage. Period.

          • QuadGMoto

            Apparently you cannot read the words Jesus used.

          • K.Bech

            Willfully ignorant. Unable to hear the truth. Lover of self. Willing to exchange the truth for a lie.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Typical response when you can’t argue facts.

          • Truth Offends

            Your standard for what is and what is not sin (people are hypocrites, or “Jesus didn’t say..”) is not Biblical.

            “Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.” (Matt 5:18) Note: Heaven and earth have not yet passed, and ALL has not yet been fulfilled.

            “For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins” (Heb 10:26)

          • QuadGMoto

            Since the Pharisee specifically asked about a man-woman marriage, Jesus answered it in that regard. Jesus never mentions nor condemns same-sex marriage.

            He answers the errors in their question by taking them back to the very beginning of humanity and pointing to God’s original design. Tell me, where is same-sex marriage in that design?

            Genesis says this in relation to their creation:

            So God created man in his own image,
            in the image of God he created him;
            male and female he created them.

            And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”
            — Genesis 1:27–28

            Note that it explicitly states they were created as male and female. Furthermore, look at that command:

            Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth…

            In other words, have children. That is explicitly not possible in same sex relationships. That means that such relationships explicitly violate His very first command to humanity and that they are not part of His design.

            But if you are going to say that “some” of the Levitical laws are no longer relevant, then you can’t be upset when someone claims that also – about homosexuality.

            So by your reasoning, Levitical laws against murder means that murder is now acceptable. Are you willing to be that consistent with your logic? Or are you willing to admit that there is more going on here and take an honest look at what that is?

            They claim that Romans is very clear about homosexuality. But what they don’t mention is that just a few verses later, Paul is “very clear” that allowing women to speak in church is a sin.

            That’s wrong on every level.

            A) That is not in Romans. It’s 1 Corinthians 14:35.

            B) Paul does not call it sin, merely “shameful.” (aischron, not hamrtia)

            C) It is consistent with other Biblical teachings that the husband is to be the head of the household. (Which also requires a husband/wife relationship and is not possible in a male/male or female/female household.)

            D) Paul was addressing a specific problem in the Corinthian church:

            Why did Paul allow women to pray and prophesy (11:5) but here called for women to “be silent”? Apparently, wives were calling out questions to their husbands, perhaps while their husbands were prophesying or speaking in tongues. This contributed further to the noisy chaos of the meetings. Paul’s call for silence, therefore, was not absolute but specific; he wanted wives to wait to ask their husbands their questions at home. In both 11:5 and 14:34, the real issue is the wife’s recognition of her husband’s God-given role of “head” in relation to her. For this reason, she was to wear a marriage veil (or something like that) when prophesying and to keep quiet when her husband was speaking in church.
            — The Apologetics Study Bible (Holman Bible Publishers, 2007)

            The only way to claim the Bible does not condemn homosexuality as a sin is to ignore crystal clear statements, employ irrelevancies, ignore big picture issues like Israel’s special position in God’s plan, and claim unequal things (like 1Cor 14:35) are exactly the same thing.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            You use the classic scriptural error of “Exclusion by Omission.” You believe because Jesus didn’t mention gay marriage, that he does not condone it. So many Christians do that and its sad.

          • QuadGMoto

            Wow, so silence in one place overrides explicit condemnation elsewhere?!?

            Are you freakin’ kidding me?!?

            Just… wow…

            There’s nothing quite like suppressing the truth in unrighteousness, is there?

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            No, claiming Jesus condemns something when he never did is scriptural suicide.

          • QuadGMoto

            And here we go back around with you pretending that Jesus did not explicitly state what marriage is.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Your explanations are speculations, not scriptural. I rely on scripture, not your “guesses” as to why it would say that.

          • QuadGMoto

            Clear, unequivocal statements explicitly condemning homosexuality as sinful is “speculation” but not specifically listing every single permutation of sexual sins, including your pet sin, is somehow “not speculation”?!?

            All I can say is, What is wrong with you?!? I am simply flabbergasted at your total intellectual suicide.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Jesus was not impressed with the intellectuals of his time, just those of faith who accepted His free gift of grace.

          • QuadGMoto

            Wrong. He accepted those who follow Him, not their own version of the Messiah.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Take your own advice. Your hate has so blinded you to His truth.

          • QuadGMoto

            Woe to those who call evil good
            and good evil,
            who put darkness for light
            and light for darkness,
            who put bitter for sweet
            and sweet for bitter!
            Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes,
            and shrewd in their own sight!
            — Isaiah 5:20–21

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Excellent scripture. Calling gods creation evil is an excellent example. Sorry for the lowercase God. Siri doesn’t always get it right.

          • youngoldbones .

            You are putting the responsibility for homosexuality on God. You are and have been on the most dangerous ground since you started saying that God made you this way. Homosexuality is of Satan, your defense of it puts you in his camp.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Yes, God made me gay. And He made you straight. And He both loves us equally. And we both qualify for salvation.

          • youngoldbones .

            “Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom
            of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven
            will enter.

            Homosexuality is sin. Yet you continue in it and you agitate for others to choose sin as well.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Basically, you just said that those who continue to sin will go to hell. You do not understand the Bible then. You are correct that God cannot tolerate sin. But when you accept the free gift of God (his Son) and repent of your sins, they are forgiven FOREVER. If you have done that, then you and me might bump into each other in Heaven. I hope, for your sake, that you have.

          • youngoldbones .

            But you cant repent of your sins if you fail to come to God broken and repentant about them. You are proud of your sin. You refuse to acknowledge your sin. You are not repentant.

            Instead you place the onus for your sin on God.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Claiming to know who has repented and who hasn’t is very god-like of you. Be careful.

          • youngoldbones .

            I know, because you told me. Right here, right now. You say that you don’t have to repent of homosexuality because you won’t admit that it is sin, just as scripture tells us, Homosexuality is an abomination.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            It is not and I’ve shown you scriptural lay why that is so. You are so blind to Gods word.

          • youngoldbones .

            You are stone cold deaf to God’s word, because you want to protect that which you love more.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Say you. But I will choose to listen to my Savior.

          • youngoldbones .

            You have shown absolutely nothing.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Translation: putting your fingers in your ears and screaming “I won’t hear you! I won’t hear you!”

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Your choice to ignore what I write is not my problem. I cannot force truth on you. As with God’s Word, you have to accept it. I pray for you.

          • QuadGMoto

            Take your own advice.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            I prefer God’s advice even over my own. I suggest you do too.

          • QuadGMoto

            Words mean what they mean. Yet you claim otherwise. Good luck with that.

          • Truth Offends

            The fact that many people are hypocrites is NOT evidence of homosexuality being a sin. Your standard for what is and what is not sin is not Biblical.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            I am only quoting scripture in context, not cherry-picking verses like most on this board.

          • Truth Offends

            You have not quoted Scripture–that I’ve seen. Why not reply to my other post, where I quote Jesus’ standard by which to decide what is and is not sin?

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Then you are not reading my other replies on this board. Show me where JESUS called homosexuality a sin. He didn’t.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Homosexuality is not sin.

          • youngoldbones .

            It is a sin, God’s word is clear. You refuse to repent of it because you love it more than the word of God.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Not so. You are so blind to what Gods message in the Bible is. You are the kind of Pharisee Jesus rebuked. Almost to the quote.

          • youngoldbones .

            If Scripture is the Word of God and if Jesus is fully God, then what the Scriptures say, Jesus says Leviticus 18:22 and 20:1. God did NOT make you Gay, you instead CHOOSE to behave in a manner contrary to God’s design for human sexuality, which is One Man/One woman for life only.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            I have responded in the past with VERY lengthy posts outlining your mistakes. But I will pull one or two here:

            1. The only time Jesus mentions man-woman marriage is in response to an idiotic question from a Pharisee: “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for just any reason?” The Pharisee was obviously trying to trip up Jesus in Jewish law. Since the Pharisee specifically asked about a man-woman marriage, Jesus answered it in that regard. Jesus never mentions nor condemns same-sex marriage. For you to say differently is a lie from the pit.

            2. Many Christians point to the Old Testament for verses affirming their anti-gay stance, specifically Leviticus. My answer is always this: Read the whole book. It also says it is a sin to eat shellfish. When anti-gay Christians are asked about this, they always answer the same way: “Jesus did away with the old laws with the new covenant.” I agree. But if you are going to say that “some” of the Levitical laws are no longer relevant, then you can’t be upset when someone claims that also – about homosexuality.

            3. Some anti-gay people bring up verses in Romans (by Paul) about this. They claim that Romans is very clear about homosexuality. But what they don’t mention is that just a few verses later, Paul is “very clear” that allowing women to speak in church is a sin, and that they should ask their husbands for spiritual wisdom.” All anti-gay Christians have “dismissed” that part and openly ignore it.

            My point is this: The only way to be an anti-gay Christian is to pick and choose which verses in the Bible are still true, and which are not-so-much. I did the research. I’ve read the Bible cover to cover many times. If you want a Biblical debate on this issue, I’m happy to oblige.

          • youngoldbones .

            Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not.

            Jesus Christ is God in the flesh, as such he holds the very same view of homosexuality as reflected in the laws handed down from the beginning including the Levitical laws of Moses. All of which are clear as to the abomination which homosexuality is in the eyes of God. There are moral laws which are for ALL people including the laws against Homosexuality, and there are ceremonial laws which only hold true for the nation of Israel. You gay activists willfully twist scripture to corrupt the word and laws of God.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            No, I am quoting scripture, not twisting it. You are the one “interpreting” it to match how you want to live your life.

          • Truth Offends

            Your standard for what is and what is not sin (people are hypocrites, or “Jesus didn’t say…”) is not Biblical.

            “Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.” (Matt 5:18) Note: Heaven and earth have not yet passed, and ALL has not yet been fulfilled.

            “For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins” (Heb 10:26)

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            I don’t go by “my standard.” I go by God’s backed by His word. Too many on this board go by “their” standard.

          • Truth Offends

            You don’t go by Jesus’ standard. Sounds as if you haven’t yet made Jesus your Lord.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Show me where Jesus condemns homosexuality as sin. He doesn’t. Some apostles do, but he NEVER condemns homosexuality or limits marriage to ONLY men and women.

          • QuadGMoto

            Argument from Silence logical fallacy.

            Will you now say beastiality and torturing babies for fun is fine because Jesus never condemned those either?

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Answered this in another thread. please consolidate your replies.

          • QuadGMoto

            Oh, so it’s okay for YOU to use the same broken argument everywhere in the comments, but I have to limit my responses to it to one place?

            Double-standard much?

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Calling my argument broken does not strengthen yours. Debate like an adult or shut up.

          • QuadGMoto

            Debate like an adult or shut up.

            Right back atcha.

          • youngoldbones .

            Wrong, Paul never said it was a sin, nor did he say it was God’s will that women not speak in the church, he said “I” do not allow a woman . . . . “I” meaning Paul himself NOT God. He did not say that God does not allow a woman-
            See how confused you are??

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Let me quote the scripture word for word: “The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. 35 If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church”

          • Truth Offends

            That Scripture is not evidence that supports any claim that homosexuality is not a sin.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Please read the thread. Keep up.

          • QuadGMoto

            It’s fascinating how you ignored my detailed response (which covers this very point, among others) yet repeat your same erroneous assertion again.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            I didn’t ignore it. I read it. You gave speculations! Interpretations! You cannot show me one time where Jesus condemned homosexuality, gay marriage, or men even dating men. They don’t exist. I go by what Jesus said, not what men say on this matter.

          • QuadGMoto

            You used the Argument from Silence logical fallacy! And you are willfully ignoring the outright and explicit condemnations of homosexuality and all manner of extra-marital sexual activity throughout the New Testament, nevermind the Old Testament.

            That is PURE intellectual dishonesty.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Translated: “You’re Wrong!” When you can’t scripturally back something up, you and the anti-gay crowd just lose it, don’t you.

          • QuadGMoto

            I fully demonstrated it to you. You literally tried to trump it with “nothing”, a known logical fallacy.

          • QuadGMoto

            Jesus said:

            “For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, coveting, wickedness, deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within, and they defile a person.”
            — Mark 7:21–23

            Remember, this is also the same member of the Godhead who said this:

            But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one dot of the Law to become void.
            — Luke 16:17

            and this:

            “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”
            — Matthew 5:17–19

            So, please explain how Jesus’ blanket condemnation of “adultery, sexual immorality, and sensuality” (among other things) excludes only one particular sexual activity clearly condemned by the law—which Jesus says is more durable than the universe—while not excluding any others. For example, beastiality.

          • youngoldbones .

            Jesus Christ IS God. So being God, he holds the same view of homosexuality as he did when he set up laws against it, and when he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Once again, wrong. Jesus wiped away the old laws with the new covenant. Or don’t you read the Bible?

          • youngoldbones .

            Which version of the Bible do you claim to read? The QUeen James version? No, Jesus said “Think not that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets,”

            You are so desparate to excuse your sin that you forget that Jesus Christ IS God, he created man and woman, he created the sexual union of man and woman. However Satan stands to the side and lures those he can deceive into corrupting Gods perfect design, just like any hacker who corrupts the work of others, Satan lures and deceives those that he is able, the main appeal of these perversions is the “wrongness” of the acts.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Yes, which is why I’m hoping to see how you’ve been deceived into hating God’s children. You are so blind to how Satan has convinced you that you are justified in vilifying God’s children in the name of spiritual purity. The early Catholic church fell victim to this during the Crusades.

          • youngoldbones .

            Christians don’t “hate” those who continue in their sin. We warn them of what scripture says. It is inconceivably stupid how you people label Christian concern for the lost, as “hate”. In doing so YOU are paving the way to silencing Christians in their ministry to tell the Gospel to those who are either ignorant of it or who like you, reject it. In doing this YOU are complicit in the endeavor to suppress the Gospel. YOU are on dangerous ground.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            The problem here is your use of “you people”. We are all God’s children. Your inability to see that completely invalidates your effectiveness at evangelism. Telling a person that the only way God will accept them is if they change an innate, unchangeable quality in their life is tantamount to bigotry. My goal is to reach the lost with love, not shove them away and label them as abominations. The Bible supports my methodology. The Crusades are a more accurate portrayal of yours.

          • youngoldbones .

            My use of the phrase “you people” is less about homosexuals than it is about people who try to misinterpret truth as “hate”.
            The Bible itself speaks these truths, is the Bible then a book of hate?

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            The Bible’s truth is not hate. Your misinterpretation, however, is.

          • youngoldbones .

            There is no room for “misinterpretation”, homosexuality is abomination. The truth is clear and accessible for all who are willing to hear it. But homosexual advocates love their sin more than the truth of scripture, so they are not open to the truth, instead they seek to distort scripture in any possible way they can, the goal of which is to justify their sin. They will not repent of it and they have no inclination to turn from this grievous sin.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Sex outside of marriage is sin, whether gay or straight. Homosexual sex inside the confines of a relationship committed to God is part of His natural design. Your inability to see that is saddening.

          • youngoldbones .

            Sex outside of marriage is sin YES! That is true. However there is no allowance for homosexual marriage in scripture. God’s natural design is to bring together that which he separated in the garden, that being male and female.

            Homosexuality is the corruption of God’s design, just like all the other perversions, pedophilia, pederasty, necrophilia, ect ect ect.

            What’s sad is your willingness to delude yourself and influence others to continue in their sin. You are unwilling to repent of that which God clearly states is abomination.

          • youngoldbones .

            The Bible does not support your methodology because you leave out the “repentance” which is what shows when a person accepts Christ as their savior. You just want to continue on with a behavior which God calls an abomination.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            I do not leave out repentence. It is essential. But the Bible does not call people to repent of something they were born with. That’s like asking a crippled person to repent of their disability. True repentence is “turning away” from sin. You cannot turn away from being homosexual. Its impossible. And God does not want us to try.

          • youngoldbones .

            Homosexuals are not “born that way” anymore than Pedophiles and pederasts are “born that way” instead these people became perverse in their desires one way or another. You should be careful when you take the role of speaking for God, particularly when there is absolutely no scriptural evidence to back up the words you dare to suggest belong to God.
            People go without sex all the time, some people remain virgins for life. Are you a wild animal with no capacity for restraint? MANY former homosexuals have turned their back on that lifestyle because they came to repentance and were saved by Jesus Christ.

            You instead want to paint a false view of God to lead others astray. A very dangerous venture.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            You are not reading my posts, obviously. I’ve stated very clearly that sex outside of marriage (relationship committed to God) is a sin. Anyone can be celibate. No one is debating that. I’m not advocating for wild, promiscuous, random sex. Not at all. Please stop reading your own bigotry into my writings.

          • youngoldbones .

            By your definition all of the key figures in the Bible are bigots. And when I mentioned the “Queen James Bible” I wasn’t being facetious I was referring g to the efforts of some in the homosexual advocacy who either have or are intending to rewrite the Bible leaving out if course all the warnings and condemnations against homosexuality. How come you don’t know about this? Google it.

            At any rate I am through arguing with you, go your way, do your thing, stand before God to justify it in the end.

          • youngoldbones .

            So you read the “Queen James Bible” then? No wonder you are so messed up and confused.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Funny, I’ll have to remember that one. I await your legitimate response.

          • youngoldbones .

            Are you sure you are really a Christian? Because if you were you would know that Jesus Christ is God.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Still ignoring my question. Typical. Come back when you want to debate with the adults.

          • youngoldbones .

            Again, Paul was not speaking of Law in that context but in the manner in which services should best be conducted. The reason he even went into the subject is because some women having their first taste of freedom in Christ were becoming too outspoken in a certain church and ended up causing a distraction,.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            So, the verse I quoted does not apply to us, but to a certain church group back then. Right?

          • youngoldbones .

            Again, the pronouncements against Homosexuality come from God. So they apply at all times.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Once again, you didn’t answer my question, so let me put it another way: Are there verses in the Bible that Christians may safely ignore because they were only relevant for a particular group back in history?

          • youngoldbones .

            Women may pray, prophesy, teach or speak as long as they
            do so in an orderly manner. J. D. Douglas, editor of the New Commentary on the
            Whole Bible admits the statement Let your women keep silence in the churches is
            difficult because Paul had previously spoken about women praying and prophesying
            in church. He writes that, “Women should not teach or speak in any way that
            causes disturbance in a church meeting. But we cannot dogmatically say that
            women did not and could not pray and/or prophesy in church meetings.” This
            commentator suggests that the apostle Paul is concerned about what is proper in
            the church meetings and rebukes the Corinthians for their pride beginning in
            verse 36. Additionally, he believes the reference to the “law” refers to Genesis
            3.16 but offered no support for his belief.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            So, you’re saying that the verse I referenced is not applicable today or was only for a certain audience Paul was speaking to?

          • youngoldbones .

            Unlike the indictments against Homosexuality, Paul here said “I” do not allow. When Paul speaks against Homosexuality he is speaking of GOD’S law.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            I’ll take that as “this verse is no longer applicable to Christians today.” Whether he used “I” or “we” or “whomever”, you are saying that certain scriptures are no longer to be followed. Duly noted.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            That’s not what the scripture says. Let me quote it for you: “The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. 35If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church”
            Learn your Bible.

          • youngoldbones .

            Not a levitical law, more on par with allowances for divorce, which Jesus himself said was Moses forced to address hardness of heart.

            Earlier you admitted that sex outside of marriage was sin. Since Jesus declared that marriage has been from the beginning one man one woman for life, how is it that you can justify homosexuals claiming marriage as their right? Nowhere in the Bible is homosexuality seen as anything other than sin and abomination in the eyes of God. And no wonder, homosexuals are rejecting that which God designed as very good, and substituting something that goes against his design for sex.

            You know in your heart that homosexuality is a filthy corruption of God’s creation for sex intimacy between compliments and procreation, but you blind yourself so you can continue in your sin. How is that demonstrating love and obedience to your lord Jesus Christ? How is it that you can say that you live in his world when exchange truth for Satan’s lies?

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Your misinterpretation of scripture does not convince me. Try watching Matthew Vines’ video if you want truth.

          • youngoldbones .

            For a human, being a female is not a sin, now a human acting as a homosexual, that IS a sin.
            There get it now?
            Not surprised that you as a homosexual would make an effort to attack women. After all, as a homosexual man you would be just fine if women disappeared altogether, right Only?

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            You assume much. And I noticed you dismissed my argument instead of refuting it. Lazy.

          • youngoldbones .

            I just refuted it. Open your lazy eyes.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Suppositions are not refutations. Learn the difference.

          • youngoldbones .

            LOL, I wouldn’t go anyplace that you frequent for the truth.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Then stay out of the Bible.

          • youngoldbones .

            The “Queen” James Bible? Gladly, I’ll stay out of it.

          • youngoldbones .

            This is your “Bible” right?

          • youngoldbones .

            If you actually spent time in the Bible with a mind open to the truth you would know that homosexuality is sin.
            So I doubt that the actual Bible is your source for truth.

          • QuadGMoto

            I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance.”
            — Luke 5:32

            “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’ But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’ I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”
            — Luke 18:10–14

            Refusing to admit to sin and repent from it prevents salvation. Jesus was crystal clear on that point.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            And yet my Jesus never said homosexuality was a sin.

          • QuadGMoto

            He never said beastiality or torturing babies for fun are sins, either. Are you claiming those are okay?

            Also, interesting phrasing you’re using. “My Jesus” as opposed to the Jesus of the Bible.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Don’t confuse gay sex with crimes. That is a logic error. And yes, I say My Jesus, because I have a personal relationship with him when I asked him into my heart to be the Lord and Savior of my life. And no one can question that.

          • QuadGMoto

            Except that you are the one with the logic error. Look at YOUR logic:

            Jesus did not condemn homosexuality, therefore it is fine.

            Now change one single word:

            Jesus did not condemn beastiality, therefore it is fine.

            That is YOUR logic. Own it, or explain the difference.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Typical anti-gay approach. equating homosexuality with beastiality. Wow. Just wow. Is that how you truly see it? That is sick.

          • QuadGMoto

            There goes the goalpost! (Another logical fallacy.) Not to mention the straw man fallacy. The intellectual dishonesty is just growing.

            No I am not saying the same thing. I am demonstrating the logic you are using to argue.

            Jesus did not condemn homosexuality, therefore it is fine.

            Jesus did not condemn beastiality, therefore it is fine.

            Both are the same logical syllogism. If you want to claim they’re logically different, then you must explain why they are different.

          • QuadGMoto

            You know that trouble you’re having explaining the difference between the two logically identical statements? That’s a clue that something is wrong with your argument.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Homosexuality is not sin.

          • QuadGMoto

            So you keep asserting. Sorry dude, God explicitly said otherwise. If you really want to go up against Him on that, you can do so. But considering that He’s God, and you (and I) are not, I just have to think that there’s something seriously wrong with such a choice.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            You can believe what you want, but God and I are on the same page. He confirms it every day during my quiet time in His Word.

          • QuadGMoto

            in His Word.

            That just made me snort with laughter, because it is obvious that you have replaced His Word with OMHO’s Word.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Laughing at God is dangerous my friend. Questioning another person’s relationship with Him is almost as bad.

          • QuadGMoto

            I’m laughing at YOU. Unless of course, you’re claiming to be God.

          • QuadGMoto

            Questioning another person’s relationship with Him is almost as bad.

            “You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.”
            — Jesus, Matthew 7:16–20

            Why did Jesus say this if we are somehow not able to see what someone says and does and be able to “recognize” the difference between one and the other?

          • youngoldbones .

            “Saved you from your sins”, including the sin of homosexuality. Yet you proclaim that God is responsible for your homosexuality. That’s the problem.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Homosexuality is not a sin. God made me this way. Sex outside of marriage is a sin, though.

          • youngoldbones .

            Yeah, no it isn’t. Jesus Christ upheld the Laws of God, the laws with which your lifestyle is in direct conflict with.

          • carrotcakeman

            But you anti-gays insist constantly that LGBT Americans and the majority of other Americans who support us ARE “an organized conspiracy,” organized to defend and uphold the United States Constitution.

            “That pattern is very, very real”

            But no one has ever provided any evidence of that.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Ill side with the authorities. It was a normal crime and justice was done. What those people did was wrong, but so is mugging someone. Next.

          • carrotcakeman

            I guess your standard whine about “moving the goalposts” means, “golly, the Americans debunked another one of my lies!”

            Anti-gays have NOT “shown that an assault was committed,” they have shown a fraudulent document they themselves created.

          • carrotcakeman

            Whining is indeed the correct term for what anti-gays are doing. Whining implies useless, aimless complaining, which fits what anti-gays are doing. Not one word of their desperate whining will ever fool anyone whose opinion counts–like the panel of 3 judges from the 10Th US Circuit Court of Appeals who were not fooled by the lies pumped out by the anti-gay Utah state officials in court in Denver this morning.

          • carrotcakeman

            Nope, all are complete fabrications from the same anti-gays that created the fake video.

  • Jim

    (1) The video claims that there is a lack of debate, argument, or discussion with opponents. But the TFP wants people to honk their support. Since when is honking debate, argument, discussion, and presentation of evidence? TFP deliberately seeks to elicit the very emotional reactions that the video then deplores. This is transparent hypocrisy. (2) The video claims these opponents are “pro-homosexual.” But how is that determined since the video claims that these people don’t engage in debate or discussion? How do you know what a person’s motivations are if you don’t talk to them? All you know for sure is that TFP elicits an angry response from a few people. What if these people are angry at the Catholic church? Maybe some have been the victims of sexual, physical, or emotional abuse by Catholic clergy. Given the scale of documented crimes committed by Catholic clergy over many decades and the campaign of deceit and cover-up engaged in by the church, that is certainly a possibility. Further since this video is entirely one-sided, how do we know that TFP volunteers have not themselves been offensive and abusive to their opponents? The video presents TFP as helpless victims. Hello? Why am I supposed to believe that without proof? Why does the behavior of TFP volunteers get an uncritical pass? (3) Where are the gay organizations in this video? I don’t see them. All I see are rowdy students on campuses and some pushing and shoving on street corners, yet some how these incidents are conflated into a general, all-encompassing indictment against gay people as inherently violent and intolerant. How can such a one-sided presentation be even remotely fair, much less honest and truthful? Is TFP interested at all in fairness? Evidently not. This is just self-serving, transparent propaganda. No thinking person will buy this “oh look at poor us, innocent victims of the vast gay conspiracy of intolerance” tall tale this repulsive video is peddling. Things must be getting really desperate on the religious right if a last-ditch pose as victim is the only strategy you can think of.

    • carrotcakeman

      How do we know they didn’t stage the whole thing?

      • RhondaStar

        No, that’s what the homosexuals do. There are so few examples of hatred towards homosexuals that you have to make them up. It’s the homosexual martyrdom complex.

        • carrotcakeman

          At least that’s what an anti-gay claims, but no one believes anti-gays after 40 years of shrieking the same lies.

          • George Rogers Clark

            God has been offering the same truth since the beginning of man. Does everyone who rejects God’s law consider Him a liar? Do you?

          • carrotcakeman

            No, God isn’t the source of the anti-gay marching orders, that hate speech comes from the opposite direction.

            Modern Biblical scholars have proven the Bible was intentionally mistranslated relatively recently in order to provide “Biblical cover” for then-rising levels of homophobia. For example, the word “homosexual” didn’t even exist until 1870. Many major Christian and Jewish denominations condemn misusing the hate-based mistranslations to attack their fellow Americans and are marrying same gender American couples now. About 400 years ago, a group of religious authorities (sanctioned by King James I of England), secretly manipulated the English version of the Bible to reflect their own heterosexual attitude; they opposed the King kissing other men in public. But in revised versions, religious authorities re-defined the Greek word “arsenokoites” of 1 Corinthians 6:9. The most accurate translation, abusers of themselves with mankind [KJV], was pretty vague. Nevertheless, they replaced this vague 5-worded text with the not so vague and purposely targeted 1-word text, “homosexual(s).” Either way you cut it, this text does not describe loving, committed same gender couples. This campaign gave those who were looking for a reason to justify their own homophobia a license to openly express their bigotry.

          • RhondaStar

            Again, all your homo apologetics have been definitively debunked many times. Amazing the lengths some will go to rationalize perversion!

          • Truth Offends

            “Gay-theology” isn’t really something that needs to be “debunked” because no rational person would believe God condones homosexuality. That is definitely a Satanic teaching.

          • carrotcakeman

            And yet more Christians agree that God loves His LGBT children. Yes, I know, despite the US Constitution’s guarantee of Freedom Of Religion, you hope to force everyone to believe your anti-gay lies about the Bible.

          • carrotcakeman

            “all your homo apologetics have been definitively debunked many times.”

            Once again, Mr. Starr makes these wild claims but never documents his wild claims.

          • carrotcakeman

            “no rational person would believe”

            Anti-gays routinely attack anyone who laughs at their lies about God and the Bible.

          • RhondaStar

            In the Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible, which the Apostle Paul had access to, “men who lie with men” is translated as “arsenos koiten” (Lev. 20:13). And that’s where Paul got the word “arsenokoites” (1 Cor. 6:9).

          • carrotcakeman

            So says the member of the Wetboro Baptist Church. No one is interested in their beliefs but them.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Did you just accuse RhondaStar of being a member of Westboro Baptist Church for providing an actual counterpoint?

            I’m done with you. Something tells me you won’t last long.

          • carrotcakeman

            Anti-gays have been attacking LGBT Americans since before Anita Bryant. I “won’t last long”? Is that a threat? You can’t silence Americans. We’ve had it with anti-gay LIES and hate speech.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            I did not threaten you. It is an observation, based primarily on your inability to adhere to the Posting Policy.

            We have a moderator here. I have a feeling the two of you are going to become acquainted.

          • carrotcakeman

            By that, I suspect you mean you and your pals are now busy flagging all my posts. Americans who read online comments are onto that trick by anti-gays. Any reasonable person would see that anti-gays are the violaters of the policy. You’re the one who threatened me again. It doesn’t matter if anti-gays cheat again and make my facts disappear. While my facts have been here, hundreds of readers have regretted the change of the GOP to mean the “Gay Obsessed Party,” and have noticed how dishonest and vicious anti-gays are. This is why they don’t believe even the wild claims in this article.

          • http://BarbWire.com/ Brian Fitzpatrick

            As one of BarbWire’s moderators, I’d like to ask you all to refrain from flagging comments because you disagree with their content. BarbWire’s policy is to bend over backwards to avoid deleting comments. We want people to have their say, even trolls. Comments using foul and vulgar language will get the hook; comments that simply insult the opposition will not, because they reveal the bankruptcy of the commenter’s arguments.

          • carrotcakeman

            You seem to have directed your appropriate criticism to the intended victim of those who are violating your terms of service, but thank you for reminding anti-gays their usual vicious personal attacks are not advancing their anti-gay agenda. Thank you for allowing this anti-gay group to hoist themselves onto their own petard with this “video.”

          • Matthew T. Mason

            That, Brian, is the wrong attitude to have, as it implies a lack of control. Which is good if you want to drive away your intended
            audience.

            People don’t want to come to a place where the trolls run buck wild.

          • carrotcakeman

            Thanks for admitting Mr. Fitzpatrick is correct.

          • QuadGMoto

            I have to agree with Matthew. Continuous posting of comment after comment for 8, 10, 12 hours a day loaded with insults, irrationality, and flat gainsaying thoroughly drowns out rational discussion. That certainly seems to me to violate the spirit of the terms of the Posting Policy.

            It is the electronic version of the guy constantly shouting “God is dead” in the video.

          • Oscar

            And if they threaten to send Christians to hell, assign them the Mark of the Beast, or call for boycotts of their companies, they will be hired as Barbwire contributors.

            If they suggest violence be rained down on atheists for comments they find blasphemous, the exact things that commentors here are not allowed to do, in other words, by breaking the posting policy, they will also be hired as writers.

            Did I understand that correctly?

          • QuadGMoto

            For example, the word “homosexual” didn’t even exist until 1870.

            The English word didn’t exist until then. But Paul put together the Greek words for “male” and “sexual intercourse” which had existed for hundreds of years prior to his writing. The meaning is crystal clear in Greek.

            You are a liar.

          • carrotcakeman

            Paul never met Jesus. Paul’s misogyny and homophobia are no one else’s problem, and provide you no basis for claiming Jesus shared Pauls’s mental disorders.

          • QuadGMoto

            Wrong again. Is it your goal in life to be wrong about every single thing?

          • carrotcakeman

            Is it your goal in life to post personal attacks when normal non-homophobic Americans just laugh at your inability to accept documented facts?

          • QuadGMoto

            Your “documented facts” are nothing of the sort. They directly contradict clear and easily observable facts. Heck, you’re even attempting to deny the recorded assaults in the video and simple written statements.

            Here’s a hint: if you want people to believe your lies, they should at least contain some truth.

          • carrotcakeman

            I’ve even explained why you cannot accept the facts. I don’t care whether you accept the facts or not, but one FACT you are going to have to accept is there is NOWHERE anti-gays can post such obvious LIES where they won’t be debunked.

          • QuadGMoto

            Everyone watch the amazing dancing goalposts! (Look up “moving the goalpost” in any list of logical fallacies.)

          • carrotcakeman

            You are just going to have to accept that your minority misinterpretations of the Bible have been traced to anti-gays at the time of King James. That’s why so many Christian denominations are marrying same gender American couples now.

      • Jim

        Exactly. We don’t know–and we shouldn’t put it past them either.

        • carrotcakeman

          Anti-gays always lie. Anti-gays have been shrieking most of these same lies since Anita Bryant, and Americans are no longer fooled by anti-gay lies.

  • carrotcakeman

    Just when did LGBT Americans cook up a Hate Vote meant to deprive anti-gays of their Constitutionally right to marry the person they love? Just what are the FBI statistics on hate crimes against anti-gays?

    • George Rogers Clark

      Does the Constitution protect same sex marriage? How did I miss that? It doesn’t, but let’s say it did. Would a “Constitutional right” trump a God-given responsibility to obey His immutable laws? Just saying…. God started with Adam and Eve. He did not start with Adam and Steve. “Love thy neighbor..” I am trying, but some of you are just here to pick a fight and push your agenda. Stop trying to paint Americans with traditional values as having a “mental disorder.” It is just dishonest rhetoric to take the focus away from the core issue. Gays love their lifestyle and their ideology more than their God and their Country. Yes, He is your God too, even if you rebel against Him.

      • carrotcakeman

        Marriage has been defined as a Constitutionally protected civil right by the United States Supreme Court 15 times since 1888. Please note the last example is of the marriage of two American women.

        Maynard v. Hill, 125 U.S. 190, 205, 211 (1888)
        Meyer v. Nebraska, 262 U.S. 390, 399 (1923)
        Skinner v. Oklahoma ex rel. Williamson, 316 U.S. 535, 541 (1942)
        Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U.S. 479, 486 (1965)
        Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1, 12 (1967)
        Boddie v. Connecticut, 401 U.S. 371, 376, 383 (1971)
        Cleveland Board of Education v. LaFleur, 414 U.S. 632, 639-40 (1974)
        Moore v. City of East Cleveland, 431 U.S. 494, 499 (1977)
        Carey v. Population Services International, 431 U.S. 678, 684-85 (1977)
        Zablocki v. Redhail, 434 U.S. 374, 384 (1978)
        Turner v. Safley, 482 U.S. 78, 95 (1987)
        Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pennsylvania v. Casey, 505 U.S. 833, 851 (1992)
        M.L.B. v. S.L.J., 519 U.S. 102, 116 (1996)
        Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558, 574 (2003)
        United States v Windsor 570 U.S. (2013)

        • George Rogers Clark

          Some states, some cases, “defined by” does not make a Constitutional right. The Constitution remains unchanged. No constitutional convention called by the will of the people and no new amendment exists. “Defined by” does not make it a constitutional right. As an act of secular humanism it may be approved in some states, for now. That does not make it right with God and it is NOT a constitutional right.

          • carrotcakeman

            The United States Supreme Court can indeed identify a Constitutional right, and have already done so for same gender couples. You may be unable to accept the simple concept of “Constitutional law,” but your inability is of no concern to the federal judges who are establishing marriage equality by revoking anti-gay Hate Votes and Hate Laws in state after state after state.

          • George Rogers Clark

            There you go again. ‘Constitutional right” implies it is in the Constitution, and it is not. Corrupt federal judges making “decisions” is not a Constitutional right. If it was IN the Constitution, “state after state” would not need to make decisions. Get it. BESIDES…. you are still missing my original point. It is NOT a LEGAL matter. It is a MORAL issue. There is a vote of one. God says it violates His code. Now, unless yours is a cry for help, I am finished.

          • carrotcakeman

            No matter how many times you attempt to fool other readers about Constitutional law, not ONE federal judge among the 8 who have issued rulings that revoked anti-gay laws just since last December was fooled, nor was the US Supreme Court fooled when they declared a same gender couple have a Constitutionally protected right to legal recognition of their marriage.

      • carrotcakeman

        I’m not picking a fight, I’m just reminding anti-gays that their efforts of over 40 years to pick a fight with LGBT Americans is being systematically defeated by federal courts. Stop trying to claim homophobia is a “traditional value,” it isn’t, it’s a mental disorder. LGBT Americans love America and aren’t concerned with this false deity anti-gays have attempted to create, we know better. Jesus affirmed a gay couple. Read Matthew 8:5-13 and Luke 7:1-10. Many of us are familiar with the Gospel story where Jesus healed the servant of a Roman centurion. In the original Greek, the word that the Roman centurion uses in this passage to describe the sick man – pais – is the same word used in ancient Greek to refer to a same-gender partner.

    • thisoldspouse

      No one can marry just any person they love. Quit lying.

      • carrotcakeman

        There are already well over 750,000 legally married American same gender couples. In addition to the 18 US States and District of Columbia that are marrying same gender American couples, several other US States recognize their marriages as they work toward legalizing marriage equality through legislative action. The federal government recognizes all same gender couples’ marriages, even those who live in anti-gay Hate States, including the some 2,000 couples who married in the short window of time marriage equality was honored in Utah and Michigan.

        I’m not lying.

  • carrotcakeman

    During the campaign to throw the vicious California anti-gay H8te Vote, anti-gays made many similar unsubstantiated claims of being “attacked.” Most of them ran something like, “Somebody stole my ‘Vote To Hurt Gays’ lawn sign, musta been them sickos from San Fran Sicko!” Anti-gays claimed vandalism against their property, but not ONE such case even resulted in arrests, let alone indictments or convictions. In Utah, police caught local teens doing that. Sure, the Heritage Foundation has some “report” with many such claims, but ALL the claims are self-serving, from anti-gays themselves.

    • RhondaStar

      There’s a story on this site about Al-‘gay’da and Lezbollah Terrorists attacking hundreds. There are even links to videos and media stories.

      • carrotcakeman

        Yeah, and the links take readers to the website of some dishonest anti-gay Hate Cult, right? Isn’t that why you didn’t supply those links?

        • RhondaStar

          Youtube videos and news reports from local news outlets. I didn’t provide the links because they are in the story. I know you have to live in denial.

          • carrotcakeman

            You didn’t provide the links because you know we will just laugh at such obvious lies. Psychologists report that the most commonly observed symptom of the mental disorder homophobia is cognitive dissonance, an inability of those so afflicted to accept documentation that contradicts their deep-seated phobia and hatred of LGBT Americans.

  • carrotcakeman

    “There are so few examples of hatred towards homosexuals that you have to make them up.”

    Funny, that isn’t what the FBI says.

    • carrotcakeman

      fbi dot gov backslash about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2011/narratives/victims

    • Jeanette Victoria

      In fact there is a dearth of hate crimes toward homosexuals, so much so they have to fake hate crimes

      • carrotcakeman

        Why bother to post that obvious LIE right above the URL provided so readers can see the FACTS?

        • Jeanette Victoria

          The FBI considers “name-calling” a hate crime its’ stats are skewed

          • carrotcakeman

            I was sure you wouldn’t be able to accept the facts as stated by the FBI. Psychologists report that the most commonly observed symptom of the mental disorder homophobia is cognitive dissonance, an inability of those so afflicted to accept documentation that contradicts their deep-seated phobia and hatred of LGBT Americans. However, anyone who looks at the website page will see how wrong you are.

            Thank you for continuing to demonstrate how dishonest and disturbed anti-gays are.

  • carrotcakeman

    If you want to see the evidence for how Americans in Moore, Oklahoma feel about anti-gays, just go to the website of KOCO-TV in Oklahoma City.

    • carrotcakeman

      counter-protesters-push-westboro-baptist-church-members-out-of-moore

      • carrotcakeman

        Apparently, anti-gays just can’t deal with this evidence of how much Americans despise them and recognize what anti-gays are doing is immoral and unAmerican.

  • carrotcakeman

    If you go to the websites of LGBT community organizations and news media outlets, you will see anti-gays are busy posting hate speech there similar to what they post here. I think the best response to that is to come here and document the facts anti-gays don’t want readers to know.

    • Jeanette Victoria

      Anti-gay definition posts the TRUTH that homosex is a perversion of nasture. The human body was NOT designed for dame sex couplings and the CDC stats reflects that fact.

      • carrotcakeman

        No, it wasn’t the CDC that made that wild claim or got you to make the mistake of revealing to readers here you fantasize about “gay sex,” Mr. Victoria.

        • Jeanette Victoria

          Yawn the boring same old retorts

          • carrotcakeman

            Fully 59% of Americans support marriage equality, reported the Washington Post on March 4, 2014, and “More than twice as many people consider being gay as “just the way they are,” rather than something they chose.” Please learn to accept the fact that no one is fooled by these routine anti-gay lies being flung about.

      • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

        What is natural to humans is what humans do. You should get out more.

  • thisoldspouse

    Matt should nickname his website, “Lot’s House.”

  • Johnny Ralph Horstman

    This is nothing compared to what you guys do to us… It hurts to be on the receiving end of anti-gay rhetoric.

    • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

      Seems to me it should be worse to be on the receiving end of AIDS, but you fellas seem to take that all in stride.

      • youngoldbones .

        Let’s not forget also that homosexuals spread AIDS to the IV drug users. How? Because IV drug users were so desparate for money for a fix that these men would prostitute themselves to gay men for money to get their next fix. Once infected with AIDS they spread it to other IV drug users and also into the blood supply because again, they sold their blood for easy cash.

    • RhondaStar

      Have you seen this story on BarbWire today: The Love of Hate: Homosexual Martyrdom Complex. You’ll “love” it!

      It reveals what homosexuals do to us!

      • John

        Quit spamming You have no argument and your persecution complex is showing.

        • RhondaStar

          On second thought, you better stay away from that article. It will burst the little “gay” bubble that you live in. Wouldn’t want to shatter your fantasy world with truth, now would we?

          • John

            See now sugar, you haven’t a clue as to what you’re saying. The article reeks with christian persecution syndrome….poor babies! Just tales of christians some how being denied their rights to discriminate freely. So sad.

          • QuadGMoto

            Except we’re [almost never] the ones actually engaging in hate crimes, which is why you liars have to make them up to pretend you’re the victims instead of the aggressors you actually are.

          • Truth Offends

            You might want to edit your post.

          • QuadGMoto

            Why do you think so?

          • Truth Offends

            parentheses–whatever they’re called
            Christians are NOT engaging in so-called “hate crimes”

          • QuadGMoto

            Certainly not as a pattern or a rule, especially since the Bible condemns such behavior. But it would not surprise me if they were able to point to a handful of incidents where someone claiming to be a Christian because they went to church on Christmas and Easter committed a hate crime, or who was having a very bad day.

            In other words, extreme outliers.

          • Truth Offends

            “we’re [almost] never”
            isn’t that what you mean to say?

          • QuadGMoto

            True. I’ll make that change from “[almost never]”. Thanks.

          • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

            Parrot.

        • youngoldbones .

          It’s not spam, her comments are very relevant.

  • carrotcakeman

    So you want us to take the word of the anti-gay liars who faked that film? Why?

    • carrotcakeman

      It seems John Ritchie’s entire life revolves around his failed attempt to promote anti-gay propaganda.

  • carrotcakeman

    It doesn’t matter how many ancient texts anti-gays defraud.

  • carrotcakeman

    I would like to thank this website for allowing anti-gays to show to your audience how deceptive and dishonest anti-gays really are. We know for a fact that support for LGBT Americans is growing at rapid rate. US News and World report noted in 2011 that:

    “”According to the report, polling data from sources including Gallup, CNN/ORC, ABC/Washington Post, and Pew Research Center indicate that average support for legalizing gay marriage grew at a rate of approximately 1 percent per year between 1996 and 2009, but the rate increased to 5 percent growth per year from 2009 to 2011. “That’s actually a 500 percent increase in the rate of change,” Benenson said at a press conference. “We rarely see that kind of upward spike in support around an issue.””

    Many Americans believe the biggest factor in this rapid increase in support is the misdeeds and dishonest of anti-gays themselves. Once again, thank you for exposing anti-gays at their most deceptive, hateful and hurtful.

    • carrotcakeman

      Anyone can find that article at US News and World Report by searching there for “new-study-support-for-gay-marriage-grew-faster-in-past-two-years”

      • carrotcakeman

        Oh, wait, I suppose we’re supposed to believe that’s a “gay magazine,” huh?

    • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

      I dunno. The Mainstream Media, to include Hollywood, has inexplicably taken up the homosexual banner, and it is clear that the current regime is run by homosexuals (see ‘Bathhouse Barry’). Yet, despite this incessant pro-homosexual propaganda, folks swung by Chick-Fil-A, by the millions, gave A&E a drubbing when they tried to punish the Duck Dynasty patriarch for quoting Scripture, and, as we speak, Mozilla is being deleted from millions of machines.

      It’s the homosexual camp which has been exposed in repeated lies, which uses violence and the tactics of personal destruction. To say otherwise is simply yet another lie.

  • Oscar

    At least the radical gays in the video only torn down signs.

    At least they didn’t call for blasphemy laws and public beatings, like “Christian” writer Tristan Emmanuel did here.

    At least they didn’t assign a person the biblical Mark of the Beast and send to a fiery hell a fellow Christian, as “Christian” writer Scott Lively did at this very site.

    It’s jaw-droppingly hypocritical for a Christian site to condemn that in unsaved homosexuals while practicing much WORSE themselves, believers who KNOW BETTER.

    Barbwire should be ashamed!

    • http://BarbWire.com/ Brian Fitzpatrick

      Tristan Emmanuel did not call for public beatings, and Scott Lively did not assign anybody the mark of the beast, at least if you go beyond the headline and read his first sentence. Oscar, you ought to reflect on whether you’re bearing false witness.

      Also, Lively did not send anybody to hell. I don’t know Lively well, but I do know him well enough to be fairly confident that he is not God, and therefore he does not have the power to send anybody to hell.

      If you have some evidence that Scott is divine, Oscar, please share it with us. We’ll all need to make a pilgrimage to Massachusetts.

      • Truth Offends

        I’ve pointed out Oscar’s errors numerous times, but he continues to repeat those things (on several BW pages)!
        I find it disgusting.

        • Oscar

          You have pointed out NOTHING WRONG that I have written. You should be ashamed to use that hypocritical handle, being unable to actually state the TRUTH. You have chosen to take the side of those two vile excuses for Christians and will one day stand before a Holy God and try to explain why. Believe me, truthoffends, you will have NOTHING TO SAY on That Day.
          The silly word games and word parsing and flat out lies you utilize here will carry no weight when confronted by a HOLY GOD for chosing wrongly to defend evil. You will rue the day you chose to stand on the side of hatred and violence over and against the God of the Bible.
          Barbwire will also answer to God for allowing that sick, sadistic slop to be passed off as Christian thought here.

      • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

        Lively is an interesting and dedicated man, and has certainly suffered the slings and arrows for speaking out on homosexual issues. Recall that he and Kevin Abrahms put together exhaustive research in THE PINK SWASTIKA
        http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/books/pinkswastika/html/the_pinkswastika_4th_edition_-_final.htm

        which we would be foolish to dismiss, since we are seeing the totalitarian instincts by homosexuals on a near-daily basis.

        He’s got quite a few posts on YOUTUBE and the readership would be well-advised to look them up.

      • Oscar

        And you, Brian Fitzpatrick, need to be ashamed of yourself for siding with and supporting vile men like those two. You are not only breaking the Ninth Commandment (attempting to change the literal words of their articles and put something different – the opposite – in their mouths) but will ONE DAY STAND BEFORE A HOLY GOD AND GIVE ACCOUNT for defending their vile, demented, totally unbiblical views. For lying, to defend their hatred, and worse, USING GOD’S NAME TO DO IT!

        You can parse words all day long, you can play your word games all you want, but I can read and saw clearly what those two frauds of Christians wrote. Worse, GOD SAW what they wrote and He sees you now, deceptively trying to twist their words into something they are not, taking the side of vile hatred and violence against the Jesus I know and love.

        And you know what Brian? We are WAY BEYOND your arrogant jokes about Massachusetts. This is not the time for your sarcasm and your humor. You AGAIN broke the Ninth Commandment when you wrote that I claimed Lively sent someone to hell. You know full well I said no such thing, yet repeat that lie. This is no longer funny, and I don’t appreciate your sarcasm. This is serious, life and death, heaven and hell stuff. God’s name is at stake, and you make jokes.

        • QuadGMoto

          You AGAIN broke the Ninth Commandment when you wrote that I claimed Lively sent someone to hell.

          At least they didn’t assign a person the biblical Mark of the Beast and send to a fiery hell a fellow Christian, as “Christian” writer Scott Lively did at this very site.

          Those are your words. ‘Nuff said.

          • Oscar

            You understand perfectly well that Brian Fitzpatrick is claiming that I think that Lively is God and could put someone in hell.

            You understand perfectly well that I am reacting to his nonsense, that I believe that Lively is God (last person on my list!) and that he has the powers that could put someone in hell.

            You understand perfectly well that instead of being serious, Brian Fitzpatrick is joking about my having special knowledge that someone like Lively is divine, which I never said, implied, thought, or wrote anything like that.

            You understand perfectly well that it was Brian Fitpatrick who started the nonsense about me bearing false witness.

  • George Rogers Clark

    Two verses of Scripture pertinent to the discussion:

    –When the righteous are in authority the people rejoice, but when the wicked rule the people groan. -Proverbs 29:2
    –Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. -2 Corinthians 3:17

    • carrotcakeman

      Yes, Scripture clearly condemns the anti-gay agenda. Then, there’s “Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness,” and the violation of that Commandment by the anti-gay Hate Cult with their fake video.

    • youngoldbones .

      So true.

      • carrotcakeman

        About anti-gays…

    • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

      1 CORINTHIANS 6:9

      “(D)o you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals…”

  • carrotcakeman

    I understand that anti-gays are disturbed individuals, but that doesn’t mean that every normal, non-homophobic American needs to accommodate their sickening desire to hurt LGBT Americans. While anti-gays have every right to envelope themselves in their swirling vortex of homophobia, they have NO right to misuse their mental disorder to force their nasty desires onto other Americans.

    • youngoldbones .

      In closing suffice it to say, it matters not what Carrotcakeman or even I write here, whats important and what Carrotcakeman suppresses, whatever his real name actually is, is that one day, he will stand before his creator and give account for his actions. Thats it. Thats all that matters. And that is what I rest my faith in, and take satisfaction from.

      • carrotcakeman

        How have I suppressed any of your wild claims? No, I merely debunked them and laughed at them.

        • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

          And you did a good job of it.

      • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

        Matthew 19:12. God has better things to do than keep track of my Bird.

  • carrotcakeman

    Americans know anti-gays will tell any lie to try to further their anti-gay agenda. Readers at comment sections like this are used to anti-gays telling the most fantastic and unbelievable lies, even repeating those same lies after a normal non-homophobic reader has proven those lies false. We see anti-gays post the most vicious hate speech in their attempt to demean, demonize and dehumanize LGBT Americans. We see anti-gays post sickening personal attacks at anyone who laughs at them.

  • carrotcakeman

    When we examine the posts of anti-gays to seek a greater understanding of their mental disorder, homophobia, we note certain tendencies. Most anti-gays have built up an elaborate set of fantasies, such as that their tiny numbers are somehow “the majority.” When presented with the simple fact that a strong majority of Americans reject their demands to hurt and vilify LGBT Americans, anti-gays show they simply cannot accept any facts that contradict their deep-seated phobia and hatred for their fellow Americans who are LGBT. We see that particular symptom, cognitive dissonance, most often in the constant denials by homophobes that homophobia even exists, even after, for example, documenting that Freud referred to homophobia.

    • youngoldbones .

      Freud’s views aren’t even given much credence these days. How antiquated of you to dredge up old unreliable dreck.

      • carrotcakeman

        Freud himself coined the term, but psychologists identified homophobia as a mental illness and published their results in the Journal of the National Institutes of Health in 1953. Homophobia is the irrational fear, disgust, or hatred of gays, lesbians, and/or bisexual people, or of homosexual feelings in oneself. It refers to the discomfort one feels with any behavior, belief, or attitude (in self or others) that does not conform to traditional sex role stereotypes. Homophobia exhibits itself in the fear of knowing, befriending, or associating with gays, lesbians, or bisexual people; fear of being perceived as gay or lesbian; and/or fear of stepping out of accepted gender role behavior. Psychologists report that the most commonly observed symptom of the mental disorder homophobia is cognitive dissonance, an inability of those so afflicted to accept documentation that contradicts their deep-seated phobia and hatred of LGBT Americans.

        • youngoldbones .

          The APA is controlled by homosexual interests. And I am not the first person here to make that pronouncement.

    • youngoldbones .

      Cause all men hate women, right Carrotcakeman? You just can’t conceive of any man not wanting to touch another guy. Its inconceivable because you hate women.

      • carrotcakeman

        I don’t sit around and fantasize about what other Americans’ sex lives are. You do.

    • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

      We reject your Normal-phobic hate speech by labeling us ‘anti-Gays.’

      We demand you refer to us as ‘Normals.’

      See, two can play the faux indignity game.

  • carrotcakeman

    Anti-gays typically post personal attacks when they can’t deal with the factual information that normal, non-homophobic Americans document. Psychologists report that the most commonly observed symptom of the mental disorder homophobia is cognitive dissonance, an inability of those so afflicted to accept documentation that contradicts their deep-seated phobia and hatred of LGBT Americans.

    • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

      There is no such thing as ‘homophobia.’

      It’s a psycho-babble term, coined by a homosexual activist.

      The word you are looking for is ‘disgust.’

      But ‘revulsion’ works too.

  • carrotcakeman

    Despite their efforts going back to Anita Bryant to keep LGBT Americans second-class citizens and at the far fringes of society, their misdeeds have placed anti-gays themselves at the fringe of society and unwelcome in America’s public life, such as the presidential Inauguration, while a gay poet spoke at that same Inauguration. Now, anti-gays see that the last American institution that once supported their anti-gay agenda, the Boy Scouts, have given anti-gays their walking papers. Anti-gays have not been denied any rights, despite their specious claims that the US Supreme Court is “discriminating” against them when the Court prevents their attempts to subvert the United States Constitution’s guarantee of Equal Protection. Most Americans just laugh at anti-gays when they whine that their intended victims, LGBT Americans, are “the real bigots” or “the real haters.”

  • carrotcakeman

    Anti-gays are always claiming that the former director of the California Musical Theatre, Scott Eckern, was “fired.” Not true, he resigned. He landed himself two VERY well paying jobs with the Mormon Church:

    “In another stroke of theatrical good fortune, Scott Eckern showed interest in “Merrily,” enough that he agreed to direct it. Beginning in 1984, Eckern was involved with California Musical Theatre, that state’s largest nonprofit arts organization, where he produced more than 150 musicals.

    But in 2008 he was singled out by a small but vocal movement demanding that he be fired. Eckern had made a minimal donation, representing his private choice of values and religion, to a statewide political campaign. After “prayerful consideration,” he resigned his post as artistic director. “I am disappointed that my personal convictions have cost me the opportunity to do what I love the most,” Eckern wrote in a public statement.

    Along with his association with BYU as adjunct professor, Eckern is currently program manager for the video services department of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

    “Scott Eckern coming aboard as the director has been a great, great thing,” Joy said. “I’ve learned a lot from him, and the whole cast has as well.”

    Please notice this source is Deseret News, the official publication of the Mormon Church, and quotes Eckern himself saying he resigned.

  • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

    I hope to see more of this pushback from gay folks and women. Say a prayer for the next christianista I see, because I am going to give it the verbal bitchslapping a domestic terrorist deserves.
    Nothing Jesus preached justifies this kind of behavior toward gays and women by anyone who responds to the name Christian.

    • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

      Way to win hearts and minds, Gaylord.

      • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

        Eat my dust, TurdLips.

        • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

          Ironic, coming from a rimmer and felcher.

          • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

            You have a rich full fantasy life.

          • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

            Maybe, but one thing is for sure…. you have terrible breath.

    • Kevin Gamble

      You are going to start seeing normal thinking humans pushing back. If that silly little feces eater ripped up a Bible in my face, he would get slammed to the ground hard.

      • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

        There is a sucker born every minute. – PT Barnum.

  • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

    2 TIMOTHY 3

    This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, FALSE accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; ….

    Sound familiar?

    • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

      You need to find a better class of friends.

      • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

        You mean like your buddies over at the FOLSOM STREET FAIR and UP YOUR ALLEY?

        I see where you’re coming from, and it smells of the water treatment plant, and for good reason.

        • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

          You have a rich full fantasy life.

  • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

    I hear Leftists repeatedly citing to the APA for support for the proposition that homosexuality is normal and well-adjusted. It is not, but you won’t be hearing otherwise from the Gay-controlled APA for some time. Insiders have blown the lid off the lie factory that the APA has become, a source of politically-driven junk science.

    “Destructive Trends in Mental Health: The Well-Intentioned Path to Harm”
    (Edited by Rogers H. Wright and Nicolas A. Cummings, 2005. New York: Routledge)

    “Wright and Cummings’ new book is supported by an Academy Award roster of endorsers, including APA past-president Robert Perloff, Arnold Lazarus, Martin Kalb, Michael Hoyt, Fred Baughman, APA past-president Jack G. Wiggins, Robyn Dawes and David Stein.

    “The editors of this volume provide compelling arguments for many destructive trends in the mental health professions – most particularly, psychology, but also psychiatry and social work. They demonstrate from an insider’s perspective how activism masquerades as science in the APA, and how “diversity” has been redefined into a kind of narrow politicism, where differing worldviews are not only summarily dismissed, but the holders of such views actually punished.

    “The authors condemn the APA for providing forums only for their preferred worldviews. They particularly note how psychology is undermined when APA makes resolutions and public policy statements on issues for which there is little or inadequate science. Such prostitution of psychology by activist groups within APA is contributing, they say, to the profession’s demise as a scientific organization. “Psychology and mental health,” Cummings says, “have veered away from scientific integrity and open inquiry, as well as from compassionate practice in which the welfare of the patient is paramount” (p. xiii).

    “Cummings and Wright note that “psychology, psychiatry, and social work have been captured by an ultraliberal agenda” (p. xiii) with which they personally agree regarding quite a few aspects, as private citizens. However, they express alarm at the damage that such an agenda is wreaking on psychology as a science and a practice, and the damage that is being done to the credibility of psychologists as professionals.

    “They reference a principle enunciated by former APA president Leona Tyler, where the advocacy of APA as an organization should be based upon “scientific data and demonstrable professional experience,” (p. xiv) leaving individual psychologists or groups of psychologists to advocate as concerned, private citizens. But they decry the “agenda-driven ideologues” in APA who erode psychology as a science. As they note, “The APA has chosen ideology over science, and thus has diminished its influence on the decision-makers in our society” (p. xiv).

    “They add that “Within psychology today, there are topics that are deemed politically incorrect, and they are neither published nor funded. Journal editors control what is accepted for publication through those chosen to conduct peer reviews… censorship exists… The Monitor on Psychology detests managed care” but “it loves managed news” (p. xiv).

    “Wright and Cummings express alarm from the “ever-proliferating therapies that are not only without validation but are irresponsible, and often later shown to be harmful” (p. xv). For example, “society spent a number of years sentencing fathers to prison based on false memories, followed by years of releasing them with the court’s apology, as accusers became aware of the implanted memories,” (p. xv) with practitioners losing their licenses and plagued with lawsuits.

    “Cummings notes that though he and his co-editor lived through the “abominable” McCarthy era and the Hollywood witch hunts, still, there was “not the insidious sense of intellectual intimidation that currently exists under political correctness” (p. xv). “Now misguided political correctness tethers our intellects. Those viewed as conservative are looked down upon as lacking intelligence” (p. xv).

    The pervasiveness of this intimidation was not appreciated by the editors until they began to talk with potential contributors to this book – “many of whom declined to be included, fearing loss of tenure or stature, and citing previous ridicule and even vicious attacks…” (p. xv). They conclude that “Political diversity is so absent in mental health circles that most psychologists and social workers live in a bubble. So seldom does anyone express ideological disagreement with colleagues that they believe all intelligent people think as they do. They are aware that conservatives exist, but regard the term ‘intelligent conservative’ as an oxymoron” (p. xvi).

  • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

    You wish, Freakshow.

    Homophobia is psycho-babble and what it is trying to mask is good, old-fashioned disgust.

    “The word homophobia comes from combining the Greek prefix homo-, meaning “same”, and suffix -phobia, meaning “fear of”. In its early usage, the term described heterosexual fears that others might think they were homosexual [It ] was promoted by George Weinberg, a gay activist and psychologist, who attempted to define it in clinical literature shortly before the downgrading of homosexuality as a mental illness by the American Psychiatric Association in 1973. Weinberg claimed it was “the dread of being in close quarters with homosexuals — and in the case of homosexuals themselves, selfloathing.” The term then entered common usage beginning with pornographic publications. …

    (no surprise there).

    “A study by University of Arkansas researchers concluded that the word homophobia, is technically incorrect. Doctoral student Bunmi Olatunji, lead author of the study stated that homophobia is not actually a fear, and therefore it should not be “pathologized,” or treated as a disease would be treated. The 138 participants in the 2001-2002 study, whose gender preferences were unknown to the researchers, were asked to complete a series of questionnaires and surveys. While some subjects displayed conservative sexual attitudes of elevated levels of disgust and dread of contamination toward homosexuals, the results showed a negative correlation between attitudes about homosexuals and measures of fear or anxiety.”

    No.

    It’s just disgust.

  • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

    LUKE 17:2

    “It would be better for him to have a millstone tied around his neck and be thrown into the sea than for him to cause one of these little ones to sin.”

    Not good for homosexuals, given that they are doing at least one third of all child molestation (and some estimates, up to 40 percent).

    Sandusky, Boy Scouts, Catholic Church Molestation scandals, etc…

  • Oscar

    Has anyone else here noticed the inconguity of this Brian Fitzpatrick being a contributor to this site, a moderator of the comments, and a commentor himself?

    Is it not a CLEAR CONFLICT OF INTEREST, when the same man is allowed to write here, then moderate the comments section, then comment HIMSELF in the same comment section he is moderating?

    • WXRGina

      Why is that a “conflict of interest,” Oscar? This site belongs to the people who run it, and as such, they are free to comment, write columns and control the content of the comments sections. You should enjoy it, because we have a very lenient comment policy here, and neither Brian nor any other moderator will shut you down unless you grossly violate comment protocol.

      • Guest

        I’ve read many, many comments left for Oscar. I would say it’s a good thing for Oscar that BarbWire is far more lenient than I would be!

        • Oscar

          And your commnet proves exactly…..NOTHING, except that you are intolerant for anyone’s opinion but your own, guest.

          I would say that your own slur only adds to those by Tristan Emmanuel, where he played with my name in the title of an article to make fun of me, say that I am not a Christian, and hint that I am a homosexual. Welcome to Barbwire’s Sliming Club, guest. Yeah, Barbwire is really “lenient”. I would say it’s a good thing that I acutally am more lenient than either of those two.

      • Oscar

        I understand the rules. No one except YOU suggested anyone is “shutting anyone down”.

        I made a simple observation that it is an obvious and clear conflict of interest to run a site this way. YOU added the rest.

        I said nothig about the site not being theirs to (unfairly and unjustly) run however they choose. YOU pointed that out.

        And contributing authors are allowed to pen calls to violence and assign people to hell, which the posting policy prohibits US from doing HERE. But that is a different outrage, than the one I addressed above.

        This site provokes many reactions in this Christian. Not ONE of those is “enjoyment”. Thanks for responding.

        • WXRGina

          Oscar, you really CAN over-think these things, you know.

  • youngoldbones .

    Jerry Sandusky is a homosexual in a sham marriage. When little boys are the victims the perp is almost always a homosexual, often also having sex with grown men as well. This is why so many gay men are drawn to the priesthood, to hide their disinterest in women, and also why there are so many pedophile priests.

    Bytheway, Matthew Shepard, you know him, your poster boy for special rights for gay men? Well he sexually abused 2 eight year old boys. Look it up.

    • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

      You are stupid, ignorant and obsessed. And probably an in the closet gay. They did a study on you freaks.
      Bugger off. You are annoying.

      • youngoldbones .

        “They” as in queer advocates. It’s so amusing how the worst insult in your arsenal is to call your enemies by what you yourself are. Homosexual. It’s really sad and it shows that you actually DO know just how disgusting homosexuality really is. LOL. So long “Plum”

        • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

          What is it about “bugger off” you do not understand?

          • youngoldbones .

            Bugger off, exactly what you are and do.

          • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

            I will now count perseverations. This is #1.

            The primary definition of perseveration in biology and clinical psychiatry involves some form of response repetition or the inability to undertake set shifting (changing of goals, tasks or activities) as required, and is usually evidenced by behaviours such as words and gestures continuing to be repeated despite absence or cessation of a stimulus.[1][2][3][4]

            More broadly in clinical psychology, it describes mental or physical behaviours which are not excessive in terms of quantity but are apparently both functionless and involve a narrow range of behaviours, and are not better described as stereotypy(a highly repetitive idiosyncratic behaviour).
            In general English, perseveration (vb: “to perseverate”) refers to insistent or redundant repetition, not necessarily in a clinical context.[5]

          • youngoldbones .

            Hey look, plum just discovered how to copy/paste.

            Using words other than his own is a vast improvement.

          • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

            #2.

  • Oscar

    Lively may well be “an interesting and dedicated man”.
    He may well have suffered for speaking out.
    He may have a great list of homosexual wrongs.

    I never wrote anything to the contrary.

    What I said (accurately and correctly, despite TruthOffends’ frail sputterings to the contrary) is that his ONE article, sliming the fine Christian man Dan Cathy, was: offensive, hateful, unbiblical, sensationalism, vile, heretical, a blight on Christianity, a stain on Barbwire, and a smear of my Lord Jesus.

    EVERY homosexual and EVERY Christian, EVERY atheist and EVERY believer (minus TruthOffends, because the truth offended him) agreed with me that he was WAY out of line, and that had no business at Barbwire.

    When your comments get THAT kind of agreement from totally enemies, when virtually everyone on BOTH sides (minus TruthOffends, which really tells me something) can see the absolute moral inconguity in claiming to be a Jesus-Follower, and spilling this foul poison at a Christian site, and in the name of a Holy God, you know you hit a nerve. You know you got something right.

    What a sad day, when TruthOffends ties himself into logical and moral knots trying to find some way to defend this vile nonsense, written by a man who wears the name of Christ. What a sad day, when even radical atheists can see what he can’t. That they have more simple morality, than he.

    Lively may be a Christian. As a man, he may be reputable. His article was neither. And almost 100%, on both sides of the divide, can plainly see and rightly condemn him for writing that ugly heresy. I know it’s not popular here, and will get me no new friends, but I will speak out against that kind of hatred as long as God gives me breath.

    • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

      LOL! *EVERY?*

      Freakshow, you are in Flail State 3, desperate to besmirch a good man because you can’t refute what he has to say.

      I invite the readership to look up Lively — what he himself has posted on You Tube, and also look up THE PINK SWASTIKA, 4th edition (available for free on the DefendtheFamily website — not the homosexual activists desperate to shut him down, and consider for themselves the content and accuracy of his statements.

      You Gay-Stapo are so desperate.

      It isn’t pretty.

      • Oscar

        I am a happily heterosexual married Baptist missionary living in Mexico. I have been called a lot of things by unsaved people, but never, by a Christian, until now:

        “Freakshow”

        “Flail State 3″

        “Gay-Stapo”

        I have completely refuted Lively’s heretical, unbiblical nonsense in that disgusting article against Dan Cathy, and will CONTINUE to do so, as long as God gives me breath. And yes, BOTH sides can read what he wrote, and BOTH sides agree it was slimy and disgusting. To any rational person, THAT SAYS SOMETHING.

        There is NO defense for anyone wearing the name of Christ to say the things he did. I also invite readers to check out that article and tell me if it was positive, helpful, loving, or remotely biblical.

        Name calling is not an argument, and is sad, especially when coming from a fellow Christian, Mjolnir Hammerschlag.

        • Mjolnir Hammerschlag

          You’ve refuted nothing.

          I call BS. I doubt that you are even a non-homosexual.

          Normal folks don’t fight tooth and nail to defend the indefensible.

          But homosexuals have long hid their orientation in public to not lose credence.

          I suspect that’s the case here.

  • Peter

    There sure is a noticable lack of those who are suppose to protect & serve.

  • aCultureWarrior

    Yet another reason ‘why homosexuality MUST be recriminalized!’

  • muad’dib

    stupid people yelling at each other and hitting each other for no good reason.

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