Mozilla CEO Only the Latest Victim — Al-‘Gay’da Terrorists Targeted Hundreds Over Prop 8


Unless you’ve been hiding under a rock lately, you’ve likely heard about what recently happened to Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich. The homofascists and their godless collaborators drove him out of the company he co-founded because six years ago he contributed $1,000 in support of the Prop 8 effort in California, which defined marriage as the union of one man and one woman.

Eich is only the latest high-profile victim to experience their aggressive assaults. There have actually been hundreds of average American citizens who were also attacked for their support of Prop 8 through harassment, intimidation, death threats, violence, vandalism, job termination, etc. We haven’t heard much about them because they aren’t well-known leaders of tech giants (Brendan Eich) or famous celebrities (Phil Robertson). 

If someone donates $100 or more in support or opposition to a ballot initiative in California, state law requires the disclosure of your full name, occupation and employer. The LA Times published an on-line, searchable database in 2008 with the names and information of those who contributed to the Prop 8 referendum. Armed with this information, militant members of the Al-‘Gay’da and Lezbollah terrorist networks utilized Google Maps and produced/published maps indicating where all of the Prop 8 supporters lived and worked. Almost immediately, the supporters of natural marriage found themselves in the crosshairs of an angry mob of homofascist enemies of freedom.

So, whenever liberals argue in favor of legislation mandating the disclosure of the identities of contributors to political issues or candidates, now we know why. It’s not really about financial transparency or the integrity of the democratic process. It’s so they can target, intimidate and launch reprisals against those with whom they disagree. All dissent must be silenced by the homosexual Taliban.

The following examples are direct quotes taken from a much larger list compiled by the Heritage Foundation, which provides a considerable amount of additional documentation and links. They are categorized under four headings: vandalism, harassment/hostility, violence/threats of violence, and employment jeopardization. If you don’t read the entire list, let me especially call your attention to the violence and threats of violence section of this report. Everyone really needs to make themselves aware of the true colors of the rainbow-masked thugs.


An elderly couple who put a Yes on 8 sign in their yard had a block thrown through their window.

A senior citizen who placed a pro-Prop-8 bumper sticker on her car had her car’s rear window smashed in.

One woman with a “One Man, One Woman” bumper sticker had her car keyed and tires deflated while she was in a grocery store.

One man who placed signs in his yard and stickers on his cars and motorbike reported that someone egged and floured his home three times and egged, floured, and honeyed his car twice. Someone also pushed over the man’s motorbike and scraped the bumper stickers off the back glass windows of his cars.

Vandals spray-painted vehicles, garages, fences, and Yes on 8 signs in Yucaipa, California.

An Alta Loma resident who placed a Yes on 8 sign in her yard found the words “love for all” and “no on 8” spray-painted on her fifth-wheel trailer.

In San Jose, vandals spray painted the garage doors of two homeowners who displayed signs supporting Prop 8.

Vandals also spray-painted anti-Prop 8 messages on commercial and residential buildings in Fullerton.

One woman who placed a pro-Prop 8 sign on her balcony reported finding that her staircase leading downstairs had been covered in urine. She also found a puddle of urine at the bottom of the stairs.

Orange spray paint was used to vandalize a statue of the Virgin Mary outside one church.

Swastikas and other graffiti were scrawled on the walls of the Most Holy Redeemer Catholic Church in San Francisco.

In San Luis Obispo, the Assembly of God Church was egged and toilet-papered, and a Mormon church had an adhesive poured onto a doormat and keypad.

Signs supporting Prop 8 were twisted into a swastika at Our Lady of Perpetual Help Catholic Church in Riverside.

Someone used a heavy object wrapped with a Yes on 8 sign to smash the window of a pastor’s office at Messiah Lutheran Church in Downey.

According to one source, the Yes on 8 campaign estimated that approximately one-third of an estimated 25,000 signs distributed in California were stolen or vandalized before the campaign ended.

In some cases, perpetrators crossed fences and walls to steal signs or removed signs that had been securely fastened in place. One individual reported coming home late and hearing male voices outside her home.


Prop 8 supporters have reported receiving phone calls and voice mails calling them “bigot”and using vulgar language. Sometimes harassers called at work. A public relations firm hired by the Yes on 8 Campaign received so many harassing phone calls from one person that the sheriff’s office became involved.

Other Prop 8 supporters received e-mails, letters, and postcards using vulgar language and offensive labels like “gay hater.” Through the contact form on his business’s Web site, one individual received an e-mail stating “burn in hell.”

Two women painted an arrow and the words “Bigots live here” on the window of their SUV and parked the vehicle in front of a household that had supported Prop 8.

In another case, an individual who supported Prop 8 found himself the subject of a flyer distributed in his town. The flyer included a photo of him, labeled him a “Bigot,” and stated his name, the amount of his donation to Prop 8, and his association with a particular Catholic church.

At the University of California, Davis, a Yes on 8 table on the quad was reportedly attacked by a group of students throwing water balloons and shouting “you teach hate.”

One woman who stood near a street with a Yes on 8 sign reported that a man stopped his car and shouted at her, “You despicable filthy bag of [expletive deleted].” Other drivers circled the block and yelled things like “You [expletive deleted]” each time they drove by her. Once a car with several men stopped, and a man in the back seat opened the door and threw something at her. Another driver stopped her car and yelled, “Get the [expletive deleted] out of here. Who do you think you are, bringing that hate into my neighborhood?”

“According to eyewitness reports published on the Internet,” states one news source, “racial epithets have been used against African Americans at protests in California — with some even directed against blacks who are fighting to repeal Prop. 8.” One man, for example, reported he was called a particular racial slur twice and said the anti-Prop 8 protest he attended “was like being at a klan rally except the klansmen were wearing Abercrombie polos and Birkenstocks.” Another man reported that “he and his boyfriend, who are both black, were carrying NO ON PROP 8 signs and still subjected to racial abuse.”

Joe Solmonese, head of the Human Rights Campaign at the time, echoed this sentiment on the “Dr. Phil” show when, in response to a question from a Mormon audience member asking why his church was being targeted, he reportedly declared, “We are going to go after your church every day for the next two years unless and until Prop 8 is overturned.”

After Prop 8 passed, crowds of same-sex marriage activists congregated for protests at Mormon houses of worship throughout the nation. One video shows same-sex marriage activists massed outside the Mormon temple in New York City crying “fascist church” repeatedly. Another video appears to show angry activists rattling the gates of the temple in Los Angeles and chanting “shame on you.” Images from various protests show signs like “Mormon Scum,” “Get your filthy church off me,”and “Keep your hate in Salt Lake.”

Anti-Mormon malice reached a new level when someone mailed packages containing suspicious white powder to Mormon temples in California and Utah. At least one of those incidents triggered a domestic terrorism investigation.


Jose Nunez, who became a U.S. citizen just months before Prop 8 passed, was waiting to distribute signs outside his Catholic church when a man grabbed several Yes on 8 signs and fled.  When Nunez followed the thief and tried to recover the signs, the thief reportedly yelled “What do you have against gays?” and punched Nunez in the face. According to Prop 8 supporters, Nunez suffered a bloody eye and wounds to his face and was taken by ambulance to a local hospital “where he received 16 stitches under his eye.”

In Fresno, the town mayor received a death threat for supporting Prop 8. The threat stated, “Hey Bubba, you really acted like a real idiot at the Yes of [sic] Prop 8 Rally this past weekend. Consider yourself lucky. If I had a gun I would have gunned you down along with each and every other supporter.” The threat also mentioned a “little surprise” for a local pastor who supported Prop 8 and “his congregation of lowlife’s” [sic]. “Keep letting him preach hate and he’ll be sorry,” the perpetrator threatened. “He will be meeting his maker sooner than expected.” The threat also stated that anyone in Fresno displaying a Yes on Prop 8 yard sign or bumper sticker was “in danger of being shot or firebombed.” Police took the threat seriously, launching a criminal investigation and taking extra steps to protect the mayor and pastor.

In another incident, an elderly woman in Palm Springs was besieged by an angry mob protesting Prop 8. Video footage posted on the Internet shows several men shouting at the woman as a television reporter tries to interview her. “Get out of here,” one man shouts in the elderly woman’s face. Later the video shows the woman, who is carrying a large cross at this point, surrounded by several men, including at least one who knocks the cross out of the woman’s hands and stomps on it. Someone also reportedly spit on the 69-year-old lady.

A small group of Christians encountered similar hostilities when an angry crowd apparently took them for pro-Prop 8 demonstrators as they prayed and sang hymns on a sidewalk in the Castro District of San Francisco. One of the Christians reportedly later stated that the people in the crowd shouted words like “haters” and “bigots” and then “started throwing hot coffee, soda and alcohol on us and spitting (and maybe even peeing) on us.” Someone in the crowd allegedly threatened to kill the group’s leader, and someone else allegedly tried to pull down the pants of one of the men in the group. A woman in the group was allegedly struck on the head with her own Bible before being thrown to the ground and kicked. Video footage posted on the Internet shows a band of police officers dressed in riot gear fending off the angry crowd and escorting the Christians to safety.

In one disturbing incident just days after Prop 8 passed, a radical group called “Bash Back!” invaded a Christian church in Michigan. The group’s Web site featured photos of members dressed like terrorists and brandishing various objects as weapons. A press release posted by the Alliance Defense Fund, a public interest legal association that is suing the openly anarchist group in federal court, states:

‘[M]embers of the group dressed in militant garb staged a protest outside the church during a worship service to distract security personnel, blocking access to the building and parking lot at various times. Other members of the group dressed in plain clothes then deceptively entered the building. At a coordinated time, they sprang up to disrupt the service, terrifying many attendees. The group shouted religious slurs, unfurled a sign, and threw fliers around the sanctuary while two women began kissing near the podium. The group pulled fire alarms as they ran out of the building.


Scott Eckern was employed as the director of the nonprofit California Musical Theater in Sacramento before being targeted for personally donating $1,000 to Prop 8. Once Mr. Eckern’s support for Prop 8 was discovered, the theater was “deluged” with criticism from prominent artists who opposed Prop 8. Critics included Marc Shaiman, the composer of Hairspray, who stated that his work could not be performed at the theater because of Mr. Eckern’s support for Prop 8. Mr. Eckern resigned.

Richard Raddon was the director of the Los Angeles Film Festival before he landed in the crosshairs of Prop 8 opponents. Mr. Raddon personally donated $1,500 to Prop 8. As in the case of Mr. Eckern, once information about Mr. Raddon’s personal donation was disclosed to the state and published on the Internet, he became a target of Prop 8 opponents. According to an op-ed in The Wall Street Journal, “A threatened boycott and picketing of the next festival forced him to resign.”

The extreme nature of this crude, but effective new tactic was poignantly illustrated in the case of Marjorie Christoffersen, a 67-year-old restaurant employee who donated a mere $100 to Prop 8. Once information about Ms. Christoffersen’s $100 donation was published on the Internet, Prop 8 opponents launched a protest against the restaurant where she worked, prompting the restaurant to offer activists a free brunch and Ms. Christoffersen to offer an apology. However, when Ms. Christoffersen refused to renounce her support for Prop 8, the meeting “turned ugly” and “[b]oisterous street protests erupted that night.” Ms. Christoffersen eventually decided to take a leave of absence to protect the restaurant, which is owned by her mother, and the other employees who worked there.

In other cases, business owners who supported Prop 8 either personally or through their enterprises have had their businesses targeted for reprisals by same-sex marriage activists. A dentist in Palo Alto lost patients because he donated $1,000. Purves & Associates, an insurance company in Davis, was picketed with signs such as “Purves Family Supports Homophobia” after family members donated to Prop 8. Protesters rallied and handed out free ice cream to retaliate against a family-owned creamery that supported Prop 8. Activists boycotted the Grand Hyatt hotel in San Diego because its developer donated money to help to put Prop 8 on the ballot. Same-sex marriage activists also targeted a self-storage company because its owner and his family donated money to Prop 8.

The supporters of Prop 8 have paid a very steep price for defending marriage as the union of one man and one woman, and very few homosexual activists have ever disavowed the crimes that the homosexual Sharia supporters have perpetrated. Nevertheless, these brave individuals are to be commended for standing up for the truth despite the onslaught of attacks. Liberty will require many more people to do the same. Brendan Eich was only latest victim of the virulent Al-‘Gay’da terrorists, and we too will need to be a people of courage and conviction if we ever hope to stem the tide of these sin-obsessed, sodomy-fixated destroyers of morality and freedom.

Moreover, what happened to Brendan Eich functions as a metaphor for life. In the same way that the founder of Mozilla was forced out of his own company, the homofascists, liberals and secularists also want to dethrone God from the universe he founded. Of course, the Bible confirms the fact that they will ultimately fail, but in the meantime that doesn’t thwart them from all their raging and vain plotting (Psalm 2:1; Acts 4:25).

An estimated 35,000 people contributed to the Prop 8 effort. That means the vile, militant supporters of sin-based sodomy “marriage,” have got a lot of work ahead of them. Their Islamofascist-style purge of all defenders of morality has only just begun.

For the homo-terrorists, Brendan Eich is “one down” – only 34, 999 more to go!

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  • thisoldspouse

    “Some of my colleagues are celebrating. They call Eich a bigot who got what he deserved. I agree. But let’s not stop here. If we’re serious about enforcing the new standard, thousands of other employees who donated to the same anti-gay ballot measure must be punished. More than 35,000 people gave money to the campaign for Proposition 8, the 2008 ballot measure that declared, “Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.” You can download the entire list, via the Los Angeles Times, as a compressed spreadsheet. (Click the link that says, “Download CSV.”) Each row lists the donor’s employer. If you organize the data by company, you can add up the total number of donors and dollars that came from people associated with that company.”—-William Saletan, Slate Magazine

  • John

    The persecution complex is strong with this one. Poor baby

    • thisoldspouse

      Your concurrence with criminal acts committed against others is well noted. And will be remembered.

      • foodArts

        Your willingness to engage in slash and burn campaigns strictly based on someone not agreeing with your twisted point of view is very disturbing, is also well noted, and most definitely will also be remembered, William Slatetan. Your true colors are flamboyantly flying high.

        • thisoldspouse

          You repudiate the documented facts provided in this piece. There is no reasoning with a depraved lunatic such as you.

          • foodArts

            See, there you go again. Someone disagrees with your tainted point of view, and you engage in name calling. This clearly shows how people like you participate in debate. You can’t base your point on or back it up with anything but hate speak and utter nonsense based on your carnal urge to sin. Yet another crystal clear example of darkness being offended by the light of truth. Thank you Billy boy, for showing everyone exactly how the lgbt community gets its point across. You make it all so very easy. Kudos to you.

            The really ironic thing is that you consider your post “reasoning” in some way, shape or form. The concept of reasoning doesn’t even enter your wheelhouse because the way you deal with disagreement is to revert to bashing and name calling. Typical, oh so very typical.

          • thisoldspouse

            What name did I call? Every word that I used has a specific meaning. And I tried to use them accurately.

          • foodArts

            Uh, let me see Billy boy, I believe, if I’m not mistaken, that your exact statement included the words, “There is no reasoning with a depraved lunatic such as you.”

            Your argument seems to me to be a perfectly demonstrated instance of the pot calling the kettle black.

            You know homosexuality is sinful behavior, yet you want it to be accepted with open arms because YOU engage in the practice, which makes you feel as if it is your right to call people out for not being willing to welcome and accept it.

            The problem is 100% yours Billy boy, and the truth of the matter is that when judgement day comes upon us, you will have to answer for your deviant behavior, so live it up Billy boy, while you can.

          • thisoldspouse

            What “deviant behavior.”

            Stop being so vague and maybe I can response to some of your halfway incoherent statements.

          • foodArts

            Out of curiosity, what in my post seems to be in any way incoherent??

            You are making my point very nicely, thanks Billy boy.

            When you don’t have a leg to stand on with your futile arguments, you resort to name calling and accusatory statements. You may think that this method of debate is a good one, but what it really shows is that you don’t even believe what you’re debating. You want to make a name for yourself by pushing an agenda that goes against the very laws of nature, yet you claim to be tolerant. You truly are a joke.

            I think that we should just respectfully agree to disagree, because you are way too interested in cramming your beliefs and agendas down the throats of the American people for the sake of feeling better about your sinful, lustful ways.

          • thisoldspouse

            Okay, I’m honestly trying to understand. First, let me say that I may have misunderstood your first comment responding to mine.

            What position are you taking? That is a place to start.

          • foodArts

            My position is that the gay agenda is trying to cram their beliefs down the throats of honest, hard working Americans. They claim that their sin is not sin, and they bash, threaten and bully anyone who doesn’t agree with their lies.

            The real shame of this whole situation is that they have liberal judges who have taken it a step further by legislating from the bench by saying that marriage being defined as one man and one woman is somehow unconstitutional…it’s a joke.

            Everyone has the same constitutional right to marry, i.e. equal rights under the law. That’s not good enough for them,they want extra rights, meaning the right for a man to marry a man, or a woman marry a woman. It’s ungodly, it’s unbiblical, and it truly is sick and twisted.

            That’s my position.

          • thisoldspouse

            Then I misread you. Apologies.

          • foodArts

            And judging by your last post, I guess I misunderstood where you were coming from. Apologies accepted and sent back to you….Billy Boy

          • Matthew T. Mason

            For the record, thisoldspouse is NOT William Saletan. You guys are on the same side.

          • foodArts

            Understood, and again, my apologies.

          • vorpal

            Am I the only one who’s frightfully confused, because thisoldspouse is radically opposed to homosexuality?

            You’re basically attacking, from the sounds of it, the tactics used by your own side.

          • vorpal

            So it is perfectly fair for me to call you a delusional hypoChristian idiot, given that those terms all have a specific meaning, and I feel they are accurately applied?

    • RhondaStar

      Over 80 REAL examples as opposed to even more fake hate stories by the homosexuals. The complex actually belongs to the paranoid liars. Gay hate stories are so rare, you all have to make them up.

      • thisoldspouse

        The fake-crimes committed by military sodomite activists should be prosecuted as the hate crimes that they are, but that never will happen.

        Charlie Rogers, the Lincoln, Nebraska lesbian who took her home-grown hoax to new heights of deliberate fraud, got a hand slap – probation. Such non-punishment only emboldens more cases of these trumped up “lies as truth” by the sodomites.

        • climate3

          Calling folks sodomites diminishes your argument.

          • thisoldspouse

            It’s in the dictionary. It’s not an invented term. It means exactly what it means.

          • vorpal

            Yes: it means one who engages in anal OR ORAL copulation. I’m willing to bet most of the folks here, gay or straight, who have been sexually active are sodomites.

        • RhondaStar

          That’s exactly right. In many cases, the police just watch the gay mobs reek their havoc.

          • vorpal

            I think you mean “wreak”. The word “reek” has a very different meaning.

      • John

        the christian persecution complex gets really old. its just overt whining about not having the ability to legally discriminate against the gay community.

        • RhondaStar

          Ahhh, there, there. The truth hurts doesn’t it. Calling facts a complex is just more homo denial.

          • vorpal

            When you’re willing to start speaking some truth, come find me and I’ll tell you if it hurts or not.

      • vorpal

        There are plenty of REAL examples of violence perpetrated on LGBT people. Your assertion that they are fake is simply childish and a lie. Do you people ever act like adults. Perhaps you should stop worrying so much about being born again and simply grow the hell up for once.

  • Norm

    None of this is surprising, I’m not worried…I’ve read history and I know how this turns out. Kinda sad how we all treat one another time and again. Hate and shouting and gangs of thugs. Watch to see who yells the loudest and accuses and calls black white and up is down. Newspeak and the ministry of information hard at work. You can figure out which “side” I speak from if you read your history too.

  • climate3

    Well u get points for the clever headline but that’s it. U lack nuance. U failed to mention violence perpetrated against Prop 8 opposers, the call to respect each other echoed from folks on both sides of the argument and u also omitted details in some of your examples. For example, the woman with the large cross started the incident when she knocked down a disabled man in her zeal to get on the front row of the news camera shot. It doesn’t justify what happened to her but that detail does clarify the reason for the anger at her. All in all your piece would have been better without the hyperbolic name calling. It diminishes what u r trying to say. Btw u can’t blame gays for the Mozilla thing. No major gay group issued any statement during the controversy and other than one petition, there was no organized efforts to get this man fired. And btw he resigned.

    • thisoldspouse

      Most high level “resignation” are how it’s done – he was terminated.

      Please lay off the koolaid.

      • climate3

        Sorry but he resigned. U can’t change that.

        • thisoldspouse

          He was fired, numbskull.

          • vorpal

            I defy you to provide any evidence that he was fired. He stepped down, as he should have: the primary responsibility of a CEO is to stand first and foremost for the profitability and advancement of the organization, and it was clear that having him as the face of the organization was counter to that goal. Thus, he did the responsible and noble thing.

    • Matthew T. Mason

      “U failed to mention violence perpetrated against Prop 8 opposers,”

      Okay then. You provide us with some. With links.

      • RhondaStar

        Did you ever get examples and links of real hate perpetrated against Prop 8 opposers?

        • Matthew T. Mason

          Still waiting. Something tells me I’ll be waiting a long, long time.

    • Truth Offends

      “CEO Brendan Eich should make an unequivocal statement of support for marriage equality. If he cannot, he should resign. And if he will not, the board should fire him immediately.” ~75,000 homofascists

      In other words:
      “Either publicly support our homosexuality or resign/be fired immediately!”
      (These homofascists are hateful, freedom-hating bigots!)

      • James

        There’s a difference between supporting marriage equality and supporting homosexuality.

        One can both support marriage equality and oppose homosexuality, insofar as one believes in the principle that our nation’s laws should be based on republican principles and human rights rather than on one particular sect’s interpretation of their holy book.

        If you don’t believe that’s the case, then please answer me this question: Do you believe that American law should forbid remarriage after divorce?

        If your answer is “no,” then according to your logic, haven’t you just made a statement publicly supporting divorce?

        • Truth Offends

          Oh, puh–leeze! You’d have to be absolutely blind to not know that this is all about supporting homosexuality!

          • James

            You didn’t answer my question.

            Do you or do you not believe that it should be illegal under American law for divorcees to remarry?

          • Truth Offends

            Open your eyes! Your question is NOT the issue!

          • James

            Sure it is. The question wasn’t whether he personally opposed homosexuality; the question was whether he donated to a cause that sought to enshrine his personal opposition into public policy.

            Had he openly and publicly renounced his opposition to marriage equality, and voiced support for equal rights for LGBT people, he would still have his job today.

          • Truth Offends

            He opposed “marriage inequality” not “marriage equality.”
            “Married” homosexuals are not at all “equal” to married men/women yet want “equal” marital rights. I’m not going to get into that now. You can read my recent Disqus history to see how that is.

          • James

            –‘He opposed “marriage inequality” not “marriage equality.”
            “Married” homosexuals are not at all “equal” to married men/women yet want “equal” marital rights.’–

            In exactly what legally-relevant way are same-sex marriages not equal to opposite-sex marriages? (Keep in mind the term “legally-relevant” there. Your particular sect’s moral viewpoint or interpretation of the Bible is not legally relevant, since the First Amendment forbids the establishment of your particular sect’s beliefs into law.)

            –“LGBT people already have equal rights under the law.”–

            No, they don’t. My gay friends in Virginia, despite having been legally married in a state where marriage equality is the law, do not have equal rights with heterosexual married couples.

            –“But, like you said, “if he had supported” the pro-homosexuality movement, “he would still have his job”.”–

            No, I said that if he had supported marriage equality, he would still have his job. He would not have to change one iota of his personal beliefs on the matter; all he would have to say would be that regardless of his personal beliefs, he supports equality for LGBT people under the law and opposes workplace discrimination against LGBT people. He has the right to believe whatever he wants about LGBT people; he does not have the right to enshrine those beliefs into law.

          • Truth Offends

            “Married” homosexuals are in no way “equal” to men/women who are married. Read my Disqus history.

          • James

            I just did. You argue that the reason same-sex marriage is unequal to opposite-sex marriage is procreation.

            Are you thus arguing that in addition to barring same-sex marriage, the state should bar marriage by those who are infertile, by those who do not intend to have children, or by those who are beyond childbearing age?

          • Truth Offends

            Not procreation alone. Procreation combined with providing children with a mother and father in a stable family unit.
            Your question is answered in my Disqus history.

          • James

            You’re writing in this thread, in a discussion with me. Please address my questions by actually answering them, rather than by referring to your comment history and expecting me to wade through all your comments to find what you’re referring to.

          • Truth Offends

            You brought something up that is off topic. You can say it’s a simple matter of “equal rights” but, if it was that simple, there would be no need for a national debate on the matter. The topic I came here to talk about is that of how the pro-homosexuality movement uses fascist-like tactics to force their agenda on America.
            If you don’t want to go through my Disqus history to find my answer to your question, you can find it on the “If Gays Hate Haters” page.

          • James

            –“You brought something up that is off topic.”–

            It’s not the slightest bit off-topic. Mr. Eich’s donation specifically concerned a political effort to oppose marriage equality in the state of California. Whether or not it is possible to both oppose homosexuality as a matter of personal moral practice and support marriage equality as a basic tenet of equal rights in a pluralist society is definitely implicated in that discussion.

            –“You can say it’s a simple matter of “equal rights” but, if it was that simple, there would be no need for a national debate on the matter.”–

            Unfortunately, that’s never been the case. The national debate about women’s equality has been going on for over a century and a half now, and even still we have to fight tooth and claw for laws requiring equal pay for women. The national debate about civil rights for African-Americans has also been going on since this nation was founded—first about the right not to be enslaved and kept as property, and then about the right to vote, have access to public accommodations, etc.—and it’s still going on to this day, as last year’s Supreme Court debate over the Voting Rights Act will attest.

            Do you deny that those ongoing national debates are also “simple matters of ‘equal rights'”?

            –“The topic I came here to talk about is that of how the pro-homosexuality movement uses fascist-like tactics to force their agenda on America.”–

            And I’m saying that when you describe them as as “fascist-like tactics,” you are going well afield of the meaning of that term. You join many on this site in the miscarriage of history in reading as “fascist” the actions of those of us who support the notion that LGBT people are full human beings entitled to human rights.

            Demanding that the law grant the same rights to same-sex couples as it does to opposite-sex couples is in no way “fascist.” It’s a basic expectation of equal rights in a civil society.

            Demanding that people be able to keep their jobs regardless of their sexual orientation is in no way “fascist.” It’s a basic expectation of equal rights in a civil society.

            Demanding that people be able to be themselves without worrying about being beaten or murdered for it is in no way “fascist.” It’s a basic expectation of equal rights in a civil society.

            You’re free to continue to believe along with your sect that LGBT people are wrong in the eyes of God. What you’re not free to do is make your sect’s belief the law of the land. And you’re not free make the claim that those of us who believe that LGBT people have just as much right as heterosexual people to marry the person they love, to keep their jobs without fear of discrimination, and to live life without fear of being physically attacked for being who they are, are acting like “fascists” without being called out for it.

          • Truth Offends

            Jeff Allen’s column above exposes more of the fascist, yes, fascist-like tactics that the pro-homosexual movement uses to force people to support homosexuality. All freedom-loving Americans should be expressing outrage at that. But not you. You don’t want to talk about that. You want to divert attention away from why they act(ed) with violence & threaten death (to silence dissent) and instead want to talk about how the homofascists (supposedly) have a valid point.

            There are countless examples of how people are being forced to remain silent in their opposition to homosexuality (or face punishment). Here is only one example:

            Across America, in government indoctrination centers we call public schools, schoolchildren are not allowed to speak a word against homosexuality without facing punishment. Today: Homofascist government schools! Tomorrow: time will tell.

            But, you don’t want to talk about that. You’d rather talk about how homosexuals are supposedly being denied human rights because an employer might not want to hire a man who wants to come to work wearing high heels and a dress; or because a homosexual man cannot receive a tax break on an inheritance left to him upon the death of his homosexual partner. But me? I’d rather talk about how the pro-homosexuality movement is destroying America.

          • James

            –“Jeff Allen’s column above exposes more of the fascist, yes, fascist-like tactics that the pro-homosexual movement uses to force people to support homosexuality.”–

            Again, when you use that term, I don’t think you’re using it correctly. So let’s make sure we agree on the terminology here. Could you please link to an authoritative definition for “fascism” and then show how the actions of the LGBT rights movement fulfill all of the requirements to fit that definition?

            –“Across America, in government indoctrination centers we call public schools, schoolchildren are not allowed to speak a word against homosexuality without facing punishment.”–

            If by that you mean they’re not allowed to bully their fellow students who are gay or lesbian, or pronounce their particular religious sect’s judgment upon their fellow students in a setting where it might detract from those students’ ability to learn history, science, math, reading, etc.—in other words, the reason they’re at school in the first place—then you’re right. And they shouldn’t be allowed to do that. I know far too many LGBT students who were bullied at school, shunned or judged, called names, subjected to violence, etc. by so-called “Christians,” whose studies suffered as a result.

            Schools always control their students’ speech and actions well beyond that which we would tolerate from government in the rest of society; none of us would accept a government-mandated dress code or uniform, for example, while such things are standard practice in schools. We accept those restrictions because they’re related to the larger mission of schools—to educate their students on academic subjects.

            –“You’d rather talk about how homosexuals are supposedly being denied civil rights because an employer might not want to hire a man who wants to come to work wearing high heels and a dress.”–

            No, I’d rather point out that for each of Mr. Allen’s supposed acts of “violence” by supporters of LGBT rights—acts which, if the reports are accurate, I condemn—there are a hundred or more examples of the reverse happening that don’t go reported each and every day. LGBT people being fired, kicked out of their homes, verbally abused, threatened with violence or death, beaten, or killed simply for having the audacity to continue to exist in violation of one religious sect’s interpretation of their holy book—to say nothing of many state governments’ continuing to enshrine discrimination against LGBT people into their laws.

            As Jesus said, before you talk about the speck in your brother’s eye, remove the plank from your own. Conservative Christianity is walking around with a veritable forest protruding from its eye, and you can’t simply handwave it away with the “no true Scotsman” fallacy.

            You need to demand that conservative Christians categorically reject any person, organization, church, or movement that does not immediately and unequivocally cut ties with anyone who engages in any form of violence against LGBT people, anyone who encourages such violence, or anyone who countenances such violence. Then, and only then, will you be in a position to criticize the so-called “fascism” of the LGBT rights movement.

          • Truth Offends

            You believe imposing fines on people are acts of violence.
            (your comments on BW “Oscar-lite on Bill-asphemy” page)

          • polymath156

            James is clearly living in his own world. No chance to explain reality to him I fear.

          • vorpal

            Determining the logical consistency of your platform is a valid part of the issue.

          • Truth Offends

            I came to this page to talk about the column above: how homofascists (who want to silence dissent) resort to vandalism, harassment, violence, threats of violence, and threats of death! You want to divert attention away from that ugly fact and change the subject to discuss whether or not they have a valid point! (They don’t). I’d rather talk about how the pro-homosexuality movement is destroying America

          • vorpal

            1. There is no such word as “homofascist”.
            2. Gay people have a point, and the idea that there is anything more than isolated acts of violence of vandalism is simply laughable. LGBT people, despite your delusions to the contrary, are far more commonly the target of such acts, and covering your ears and eyes and screaming, “I’m not listening” in your histrionic way does not change that fact.
            3. The assertion that the pro-LGBT movement is “destroying America” is laughably absurd. I could just as easily assert that far-right Christians are destroying America, and I suspect I would receive more support than you would. However, I wouldn’t assert such nonsense, because while I view the actions of far-right Christians as profoundly harmful, I don’t think you hold the political sway to do more than incite laughter and eye-rolling from the majority.

        • Matthew T. Mason

          “There’s a difference between supporting marriage equality and supporting homosexuality.”

          So, then, you are admitting homosexuality and the “equality” myth are mutually exclusive?

          Then why not just drop the “equality” malarkey and say what this is really all about: same-sex marriage?

      • vorpal

        When you want to use real words, come talk to us. “Homofascist” isn’t in any dictionary that I’ve seen.

        • Truth Offends

          I’m just as free to post on BarbWire as you are, so please don’t tell me when I can or cannot post.

          • vorpal

            Of course you can post whatever you like, but posting nonsense invented words isn’t doing you any favours or giving your side any credibility. As far as I’m concerned, though, pretty much all credibility was lost when the article writers / editors decided to post pictures of Hitler dolled up in makeup wearing a pink Nazi uniform and pictures of rainbow flags with swastikas.

  • Dannyboy

    Society needs an affirmative action programs for homosexuals.

    Anyone who runs for Congress or the Presidency, for example, must be a certified, practicing, and very attractive homosexual man.

    This is to make up for the more than 50 billion homosexuals who have been marginalized in America since the Pilgrims landed.

    Only companies whose entire workforce is composed of card-carrying homosexuals can do business with the Federal government.

    I think we all recognize that Homosexuals (you have to use a capital H now) have been more oppressed than Blacks, Latinos, Women, Left-handed people, Illegal Immigrants, and the Trans-gendered.

    The concentration camps that have been set up to hold Homosexuals (again, capital H) must be dismantled.

    Christian churches must be done away with and replaced with Churches of Homosexuality, all run by the homosexual group Human Rights Campaign.

    • Halou

      “Anyone who runs for Congress or the Presidency, for example, must be a
      certified, practicing, and very attractive homosexual man.”
      What about the lesbians? You forgot to mention them, you may have a lawsuit pending. xD

      • Dannyboy

        Halou, male homosexuals consider themselves superior to lesbians for 2 reasons. First, male homosexuals have the right “equipment” and lesbians don’t have any “equipment,” at least not any that is attractive to male homosexuals. Second, homosexual males are more manly than lesbians (with a few exceptions, of course).

        Male homosexuals wouldn’t have the slightest idea what to do with a lesbian. It’s all a bit awkward, but they don’t like to talk about that.

        • Halou

          Quite the insight, I never actually knew that about myself.

          Even if you were correct in what you say, that gay men allegedly ‘don’t know what to do with lesbians’ doesn’t mean lesbians somehow can’t be politically involved.

          • Dannyboy

            Halou, I was kidding. But seriously, did you know that some prominent male homosexuals have begun sexual affairs with lesbians? It is indeed true. This is well-documented in Ryan Sorba’s book, The Born Gay
            Hoax (free, on the Web). The participants themselves admit it.

            Committed male homosexuals began such affairs and were marginalized by other gays because they broke a taboo: You are supposed to be born gay and never switch. If you switch later in life, after you have declared yourself to be a committed homosexual, then you have disproved a bedrock gay principle of being born gay.

            This is something that gays do not admit. It would undercut their legislation against therapy in which a homosexual seeks to become a functioning heterosexual. As I have said, the homosexual movement is such a group of liars. They are not honest people. That fact alone should de-legitimize their cause.

    • CajunPatriot

      After that 50 billion that were fed to sharks and changed the entire shark habits in the Atlantic Ocean and the Caribbean, we must also expand the job market for homosexual pedophile mass murders because making license plates is not enough, and then include those who not only love men’s anuses, but animals anuses..we could hire them all to work for PETA and other organizations.

  • Halou

    Forcing the guy’s resignation/dismissal after so long serves less than no purpose because Prop 8 is gone, and the odds of it coming back are slim to say the least. Him losing the $1,000 with no return on it is ‘punishment’ enough.

    • thisoldspouse

      Actually, Prop 8 was the means to amend the California Constitution with the natural definition of marriage, and IT’S STILL IN THE CONSTITUTION, only awaiting for the determination of Section 2 of DOMA to be upheld. Then, it will come roaring back into effect, unless anarchists politicians simply ignore the law.

    • Truth Offends

      Are you blind? Forcing his resignation serves the purpose of silencing dissent. Intimidation tactics for all America to see. If you dare to oppose our homosexuality, this could also happen to you!

  • CajunPatriot

    There is clear evidence that many within the homofascist movement here in the U.S. are doing any and everything they can to eliminate those who disagree with their strident SAD (sexually aberrant deviant) behavior.

    There was a story on Barbwire not too long ago on a similar topic concerning homosexuals and Islam and I was working out of town and could not respond.

    MALAYSIA: Buddhist workers were savagely tortured, raped, and had their throats cut by a Muslim mob of at least 15 Bengali men, all, apparently illegal aliens from Burma (Myanmar). These attacks by Muslim men are common in Asia, where they rape, torture, and then kill non-Muslim men. In some cases, when Muslim men rape and kill men from larger tribes, these tribesmen retaliate with reprisals, as happens in India recurring.

  • Ted R. Weiland

    But, Jeff, what do you suggest we do about them?

    I suggest we identify and then address the genesis for why America finds herself being held hostage by a small percentage of perverts: The fact that the constitutional framers’ failed to establish government and society upon Yahweh’s immutable morality as reflected in His commandments, statutes, and judgments (including Leviticus 18:22 & 20:13).

    “Because they have transgressed my [Yahweh’s] covenant, and trespassed against my law…. Israel hath cast off the thing that is good…. They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind….” (Hosea 8:1-7)

    This is precisely what the constitutional framers did when they established a humanistic government of, by, and for the people, based upon their own fickle edicts (Matthew 15:6-9) rather than a government of, by, and for God, based upon His immutable morality as codified in His perfect law and altogether righteous judgments (Psalm 19:7-11). In other words, their rebellion sowed the wind, and America today is reaping the whirlwind:

    “Yet they hearkened not unto me, nor inclined their ear, but hardened their neck: they did worse than their fathers.” (Jeremiah 7:26)

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  • James

    The senior editor of this site has made the declaration: putting market pressure on a company to remove the person running it or change its policies is an act of “terrorism.”

    WorldVision’s leadership briefly endorsed a nondiscrimination policy against LGBT people, before so-called “Christians” said that they would rather have poor children starve to death than acknowledge LGBT people as equals and applied market pressure to force WV to rescind that decision.

    There are those on this site who are continuing to argue for market pressure to force WorldVision’s leadership to resign. By this writer’s logic, would that make them “terrorists” as well?

    • Matthew T. Mason

      What in the world are you talking about, never mind a point. Are you trying to equate World Vision to this article above? Not only is that a false analogy, it shows a willingness to defend something indefensible.

    • RhondaStar

      Market Pressure??? Are you kidding? Eich held his position for what? 10 days or something. There wasn’t enough time to measure any negative market consequences. This was all about a virulent homofascist mob that pressured the company to give him the boot.

      • James

        Yes, market pressure. 10 days was well more than long enough for Mozilla’s board to see the consequences of keeping Eich on. Coders wouldn’t take jobs for the company, many in the open-source community wouldn’t support Mozilla products, prominent websites would encourage users to use other browsers, etc.

        For a nonprofit with an open-source model, those things are a sure way to become irrelevant and lose market share to Apple, Google, Microsoft, etc., companies that are smart enough not to hire CEOs who think LGBT people don’t deserve equal rights.

        • RhondaStar

          It was manipulative, evil Pervert Pressure. If you can’t see how it’s wrong to fire people for exercising their religious and speech rights, then you are messed up.

          • James

            But firing people for being LGBT is totally okay…?

          • RhondaStar

            Not when it’s a non-religious organization like Mozilla.

          • James

            Just so we’re clear here: You believe that non-religious organizations—which is to say, any for-profit or nonprofit company whose purpose, as stated in its mission statement and founding documents, is not religious in nature—should not be able to discriminate against LGBT people in hiring or firing?

            And you would support laws to that effect?

            That sounds like an acceptable compromise to me.

          • RhondaStar

            Basically, yes. There might be a few instances where we would quibble over what constitutes a religious organization (i.e.: Christian school or book store).

          • Truth Offends

            OPEN YOUR EYES! The homofascists simply will not tolerate anyone who does not support homosexuality! Read Jeff Allen’s column above. Read his column from a few weeks ago where he told us about death threats he was receiving–for what? Opposing homosexuality! You may take death threats lightly, but I don’t, and neither should anyone else.

          • James

            You’re right. Nobody should take death threats lightly. Nobody should take violence lightly. I deplore those who sent Mr. Allen such things.

            Do you similarly deplore, condemn, and oppose any and all who would engage in any form of violence against LGBT people, and refuse to have anything to do with any person or organization that has been known to engage in, support, or condone such violence?

          • Truth Offends

            Of course. And no Christian would engage in, or support, violence against anyone!

          • Matthew T. Mason

            If they exhibit behavior that could be considered sexual harassment, or deliberately engage in behavior considered to be offensive or would otherwise interfere with the day-to-day operations of the company, you betcha.

    • thisoldspouse

      Christians are calling for Christian organizations and market forces to maintain their position, to resist the change demanded by the homosexual lobby.

      Homosexual are attacking people because they refuse to change to their whim.

      A universe of difference.

      • James

        –“Christians are calling for Christian organizations and market forces to maintain their position, to resist the change demanded by the homosexual lobby.”–

        Mozilla’s previous CEO was not on the record as having donated money to causes opposing the idea that LGBT people are human beings entitled to equal rights. Like most in the software development community and all major computer companies, the previous CEO was supportive of LGBT rights. For them to hire someone who was on the record as opposing LGBT rights was a regression for them.

        And yes, we who support the idea that LGBT people are human beings who deserve equal rights with everyone else—a “lobby” that now includes over half of the American populace, and growing each and every day—do want the organizations we support to share our values in that, including in their decisions on their hiring practices and in their decisions on who to put into positions of leadership.

        That’s no different from those who oppose the idea that LGBT people have human rights wanting the organizations they support to reflect their desire to discriminate against those who transgress against their particular sect’s belief system.

        So why is the latter considered not only good but necessary, while the former is portrayed as “terrorism”? Is it because those who support the latter are losing the so-called “culture war” more and more with every passing day?

    • Truth Offends

      Open your eyes. Or, didn’t you read Jeff Allen’s column? These homofascists are using vandalism, harassment, violence, and death threats against those who oppose their political views!

      • James

        Because those things haven’t ever been done to LGBT people, right?

        People have been not just threatened with death but actually murdered for being LGBT. They have been beaten, they have been harassed, they have been vandalized. And often times, the violence against LGBT people was committed by those who turned around the next Sunday, went to a house of worship, and claimed they loved Christ.

        I deplore any act of violence against those who oppose the idea that LGBT people are human beings with rights, but I don’t think you really want a discussion of which “side” of this debate has more of a history of violence.

        • Truth Offends

          We are dealing with what is happening currently in the United States of America! People are murdered every day of the week–and you know what? SOME are actually murdered for no reason at all! But, committing murder is not something that Christians do.

          • James

            Do you really think violence against LGBT people is a thing of the past in the USA?


            Please take a look at the number of incidents in the past four years alone. Violence against LGBT people is a thing that is “happening currently in the United States of America.”

            I’m glad you agree, though, that violence against LGBT people is “not something that Christians do.” Does that mean that you’re renouncing any ties or support for any organization that does not fully condemn, without equivocation or excuse, any and all forms of violence against LGBT people?

          • David

            it’s stupid to deny that some Christians have been hateful and violent towards LGBT people, and yes that includes murder. And take a look at some of the comments on this site and others there is NO Christ evident in the bile that is spewed. The LGBT activists have crossed a line for sure but they weren’t the first ones across it.

          • Truth Offends

            Put a sign up in your yard showing support for law reaffirming marriage b/w 1man/1woman.
            Homofascists say, “You’ve crossed the line!” and then retaliate with violence!

          • S. Noir

            Ah, welcome to the “No true Scotsman” argument.

            Surely you know that not all who say they are Christian actually are Christian.

            So, if someone does something you disapprove of, you banish them from “Christian”, while you are content to lump all people who are pro-gay-rights as being the same as the most extreme of that category. Great fallacy you’ve got going there.

          • Truth Offends

            You’re right. I should have said, “that’s what *members* of the freedom-hating, anti-American, pro-homosexuality movement does/or threatens to do.”

            But, you’re wrong about what I believe a true Christian is. God decides what a true Christian is, not me. And the Bible teaches how to recognize the true believers from the false.

  • John Ritchie

    You might wish to check out this video “Attacked by Tolerance.” It has more incidents of pro-homosexual attacks on peaceful young Americans who voice their support for natural marriage.

    God bless and protect America.

  • Doug

    The thing that bothers me is not that a certain segment of society is trying to use what pressure it can bring to bear in order to get done what they think needs doing… but rather that they do it in the name of tolerance and diversity while actually not tolerating any diversity.

    Christians want to protect something they see as sacred and ordained by God. They also use the pressure they can bring to bear on the situation in order to obtain their goal. But they don’t do it with the false claim of tolerance. I think the biggest problem the Christians have is that they were the first to demean traditional marriage with no-fault divorce so they could trade up or follow their dream or whatever. It was the Christians that made marriage about sex rather than about raising children come hell or high water. Now we have the fruit of their labor which is everyone else saying that if marriage is just about sex… move over here we come.

    We got ourselves a mess.

  • Im_Rick_James

    I voted against Prop 8 when I lived in Cali. Now, I wish I hadn’t.

    • Thisoldspouse

      Then support Yes, they are still active. And if/when section 2 of DOMA is upheld as constitutional, they’ll become even MORE active as Prop 8 become effective.

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  • Cilisi

    Typical BarbWire supporters…

    • RhondaStar

      Typical lib. We have over 80 example of violent homosexuals, and you think it proves nothing. But you have one goofy picture and

      • RhondaStar

        …one goofy pic and think it proves everything.

  • Cilisi

    Typical thumper

    • RhondaStar

      We don’t hate gays. It’s the homosexuals doing all the hating as illustrated by this article.

    • Matthew T. Mason

      Whoever created that meme has never read the Bible.

  • Parque_Hundido

    The TFP are neo-fascist brownshirts. You should be ashamed of what you stand for. The rest of us are.

  • Parque_Hundido

    Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences. This is about a CEO facing the public consequences of his public actions. If he’d given a large donation to the KKK, we wouldn’t be having this discussion, would we? Instead, he gave to a group that sought to prevent LGBT Americans from enjoying the same rights as others in California. He is rightly facing the consequence of his own public actions.

    • RhondaStar

      So, they had a ballot initiative, but those that supported real marriage were not allowed to support it or else they should never be allowed to work again…and be attacked like listed in this article? Yep, you’re a fascist.

      KKK and supporting real marriage are not the same. Sorry, Al-‘gay’da, you fail.

      • Parque_Hundido

        Really? One a scale of one to 10, how employed is the homophobe in this article? That would be zero.

        Sorry, you’re done.

        • RhondaStar

          Winning one battle is not the same as winning the war. The firefox feedback portal that the company set up has received a staggering 93-94% of comments against what they did to Eich. There will be a backlash. Even homosexuals are distancing themselves from this (i.e.: Andrew Sullivan). As people see your fascist hate, they will realize that this is not a movement they want to be a part of. It’s vengeful and sheer evil. Not to mention hypocritical because the homosexuals are doing to others what they claimed was done to them.

  • RhondaStar


  • Truth Offends

    Your question is absurd, and *especially so given the fact that you believe imposing fines on people are acts of violence!
    (your comments to “Oscar-lite on Bill-asphemy” page on BW)

    • James

      What would you call it if someone told you to give them a certain amount of money or else they’d kidnap you and lock you away for a period of time? I’d call that violence, personally.

      That doesn’t mean that fines levied by governments for criminal or civil violations are illegitimate or wrong. That the government can engage in such violence legitimately—and many political theorists define government as having a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence—does not make it any less an act of violence.

  • portertx

    The Family Research Council today launched a petition campaign which calls on its followers to demand that the US Senate block the confirmation of pro-gay lawyer Michelle Friedland, who was nominated to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals by President Obama last August. Friedland represented several gay couples on behalf of Equality California’s failed challenge to Proposition 8 and Tony Perkins wants revenge for that outrage.

    OOOOOPS — I guess they didn’t get the memo right?

    • thisoldspouse

      And Democrats NEVER blocked President Bush’s appointees, right?

      • portertx

        Ummmm you are totally missing the hypocrisy of the FRC doing what you said the gaystapo did with the CEO…..

  • portertx

    Wont happen — DOMA is a dead horse////

    • thisoldspouse

      The crux of Windsor was states rights to define marriage. Is the Court now going to do a 180 on its recent reasoning?

      • portertx

        The crux of the Windsor case was due process and equal treatment under the law. Section 2 is equally flawed and will soon be in the waste bin of history…..I will give a prime example as to why…..first cousin marriages are legally recognized in all states…but only allowed to be performed in 26 states…..

  • vorpal

    I don’t support any of these acts of violence or intimidation. That being said, I never think it’s wise to advertise sensitive and controversial political positions on your car, given that your car is often out of your protection and thus subject to risk by people who feel emotionally inflamed from your political advertisements. For example, my husband always wanted to place a rainbow sticker on our car, and I’ve always answered with a resounding no, because given the dozens of people who will see this and “disagree” with homosexuality, it only takes one who is prone to anger and violence and in the wrong state of mind to take it on themselves to make a political statement in return with my car as the victim.