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Homofascists Turn Their ‘Gay’ Guns on Mississippi

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It has been a heck of month here in Mississippi.

As a testament to how brazen the radical homosexual movement has become under the current administration in Washington, homosexual activists have boldly turned their firepower on the deeply conservative state of Mississippi.  These people are winning diabolical “victories” all across the nation, as miscreant federal judges arbitrarily overturn the will of the people in state after state by imposing same-sex “marriage” on them by lawless judicial fiat.  Because of the momentum these people are seeing in their wicked campaign, they are emboldened to turn their guns on a conservative stronghold like Mississippi.

One of our local television stations reported on Monday that an alphabet soup brigade of homosexual activists had planned a rally on Wednesday in our state capital, Jackson.  In the column published at the WLOX-TV website, Jeff White, a homosexual activist, was cited:

The group is now focused on changing laws in the state that they say discriminate against gays and lesbians. Same sex marriage is at the top of their list.

“Of course, we’d like to see marriage equality happen here, but it’s not just about marriage. We have no non-discrimination employment laws, meaning anyone who is gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender can be fired just for that and that’s not fair. We don’t have any bullying laws to protect students, not just gay students, any student,” said White.

Many people today are so unmoored from God’s truth and morality that they can’t see anything wrong with statements like Mr. White’s.  They don’t see that what he is pushing is pure tyranny.  Let’s deconstruct what he said.  First, there is no such thing as “marriage equality.”  There is marriage, period.  Marriage is one thing only:  the union of a man and a woman.  That’s all it can ever be.  Any other coupling is only an abominable sham falsely called “marriage.”

The forcing of a bogus definition of marriage on the people of the United States is tyrannical, because it brings with it the force of bad law to make people recognize and accommodate an immoral bastardization of marriage.  People are compelled to violate their conscience and deeply held knowledge in obeisance to depraved pairings of people of the same sex, or they will face dire consequences, including lawsuits and loss of employment if they refuse to bow at the altar of radical homosexualism.

Another point Mr. White makes is that Mississippi does not have any “non-discrimination employment laws.”  He uses the fallacious argument that because of a lack of these laws, homosexuals can be fired just for being homosexual.  That’s not happening, but these people don’t let truth get in the way of their perverse agenda.  The real motivation behind these laws is to squash the God-given rights of business owners.  It’s to force them to give up their right of free association, free exercise of religion in conducting their business according to their conscience, and even their private property rights, because their business is their property, and if the government dictates whom they must hire, then they have lost their right to their own property.

As for “bullying” laws, the anti-bullying campaigns that have exploded across the U.S. in recent years are nothing more than another facet of the militant homosexual movement’s efforts to crush the freedom of speech and religion of those who oppose it.  Even expressing the fact that homosexuality is wrong can be considered “bullying.”  All these aspects of the homofascist movement are tyrannical.

While I didn’t find any news on how the homosexual rally in Jackson turned out, another story popped up on Tuesday that a group of same-sex couples marched into the Hinds County Courthouse in Jackson and applied for marriage licenses.  That’s how it begins, how they roll.  Make a scene, then later comes the lawsuit against the state when they are not granted marriage licenses.  Shop it to a left-wing activist federal judge who rules according to the evil whim of Sodom, and then—boom!—you have destroyed marriage, freedom and common sense in yet another formerly-sovereign state.

Let me tell you something.  We keep hearing how “gay rights” won’t affect anyone, won’t trample on anyone else’s rights, how same-sex “marriage equality” hurts no one, doesn’t affect real marriage.  These are lies from the pit of Hell.  These things do and will affect every one of us.  Jeff Allen, writing at BarbWire.com lays out the hard facts of this in his recent column, “Ugly Truth:  How Same-Sex “Marriage” Affects Us All.”  Read it, and open your eyes.

Another truth is that people now risk losing their jobs at the hands of the homosexualist behemoth.  Many, if not most, of the leaders of large corporations have already capitulated to the demands of homosexual activists and have written into their company rules their own versions of “non-discrimination” policies that include homosexuals, “transgenders” and other deviants.  These rules have opened the door to deranged people forcing themselves on their workplaces, compelling their coworkers to accommodate them and to stay silent, or risk losing their job.

Not so, you say?  I have witnessed this first-hand here in Mississippi.  I work for a small office (around 25 people) of a giant, global corporation.  Late last month a representative from our corporate headquarters came into town to inform the people in our office that one of our coworkers, a middle-aged, formerly-married father, has decided he wants to be a “woman.”  He now comes to work completely in drag — women’s clothes, make-up, ladies’ wig, the whole nine yards.  We were told without question that we must now refer to this man by a woman’s name and in feminine pronouns.  The rights of Christians and others who work there were not considered.  It was a mandate from corporate-on-high.

I asked the corporate representative if this man intended to use the women’s restroom, and I was told that yes he would.  I strongly protested this, and the result was that a lock was installed on the outer doorknob of the two-stall women’s restroom.

This selfish, mentally and spiritually disordered man has turned the office upside down.  He has forced the managers and his fellow employees to participate in this abominable charade, to pretend he is something he can never be and to regard as “normal” the degenerate spectacle of his parading around dressed as a woman.  Besides me, no one dares to speak against this for fear of losing his job.  This man has become an activist, and I believe he is targeting our company, possibly for legal action, and he likely has the backing of others in the radical homosexual movement.  I have no doubt of this.

We are in such a dark and demented place here in America today that even my writing this account with no identifying names could possibly put my job in jeopardy.  I certainly hope it doesn’t, because I would not take that lying down.  Count on it.

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  • http://www.americanclarion.com Bob Ellis

    Homosexual activists have grown extremely brazen since they have received little resistance from Christians and conservatives.

    Good people had better wake up and realize we are in a complete and total WAR for our culture, because the barbarians aren’t just at the gates–they’re in the town pillaging.

    • john

      How ridiculous. You’ve thrown yourself into a war to perpetuate discrimination towards the gay community. Its people like you who caused gays to saty in the closet for so many years. Poor persecuted christian.

  • Rich

    Oh poor Gina Miller. Your world is simply crumbling around you. A transgendered woman has taken over your toilet stall and you must now face constipation or succumb to civility in the work place. Have you added additional locks to your home and bedroom to keep out the dreaded gays just itching to infect you with, egads, community spirit and accommodation? And, of course, the worst thing possible will have to be when a married gay couple moves in next door and you must simply endure their day to day activities like driving away to work, raking the yard, painting the house, relaxing on their deck and maybe even stealing a kiss in the front yard. Will you scream and run to your basement bomb shelter. Will you call 911 and report a crime in the making? How will you manage to survive? Poor Gina Miller. As the kids say:it sucks to be you.

    • Matthew Mason

      Really? You do know allowing men to enter womens’ restrooms is just an invitation to rape, right? And before you say no, it’s already happened in Canada.

      Here’s what you need to understand, pal: What two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own bedroom should not be extended from that bedroom.

  • john

    Let’s see here, hmmmmm. So you’re a “christian” who endorses the right of employers to fire gay people at will, you oppose anti bullying laws due to them being tyrannical, and LEGAL gay marriages are bogus? Did I get all that right? Newsflash honey, gay marriage or marriage equality is the law of the land in many states whether you choose to accept it or not. You must be another one of those poor, poor christians that the nasty homosexuals have wronged in one way or the other? Your posts are so ridiculous as to be laughable. You need medication.

  • Kev

    I didn’t used to hate homosexuals. I remember when they once said, “Just leave us alone.” Now, they won’t leave normal people alone. At one time, it was just homosexuals, but now they have added all the other freaks to their cause. The pedophiles will be the next “sexual minority” to appeal for rights. After all, like homos, they “can’t help the way they feel.” God, these people were much easier to abide when they too understood that they had something wrong with them. Oh, to the poster chiding the writer, I wouldn’t want one of these freaks living next to me and would move. Also an employer should be able to fire whom he wants. I don’t want to be around these freaks EVER.

  • John

    Your first lie is that there is no such thing as marriage equality…..its now in 17 states. Nondiscrimination laws are just that…they protect people from being fired, denied housing, etc…its a shame you would deny people these basic needs. You are nothing more than a fear monger! What a sad life you must live spending your time eternally bashing the gay community. You are a sad excuse for a christian.

    • LouiseCA

      We have seen what homosexuals are capable of. While there are some who live quiet lives and are kind people, there are many, many, who are loud, rude, disrespectful toward anything to do with Christianity, crude, violent, brutal, and demanding. They have alienated people who used to take their side and believed they had a legitimate issue.
      I’m sorry, but you do not occupy the moral ground here.

      • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

        We have seen what Christians are capable of. While there are some who live quiet lives and are kind people, there are many, many, who are loud, rude, disrespectful toward anything to do with tolerance of others who are different than them.

        • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

          Sodomy is sin.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            I’m a buddhist, we don’t feel the same way.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            One more thing, you are a RINO.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Well I’m certainly NOT like you.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Ray, the troll is mocking Nancy Elliott by pretending to be her. Just flag every post the troll makes.

          • John

            Its sad that all you have to refute arguments is pulling the troll card. You seem tenacious so keep trying.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Why? There is no law against parody of a political figure. Don’t want a dissenting view to spoil your little party?

            PS: I have screen shots anyway.

          • vorpal

            Sodomy is defined as oral or anal copulation. If sodomy is sin, the vast majority of humans are sinners.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            Revelation 20

            11And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

            12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

            13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

            14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

            15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

          • Chuck

            Ray, Once again, thank you for being here. I am always
            edified by reading your posts…it wont be much longer

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            Thank you Chuck.
            I agree, it will not be much longer – The King is coming.

            Have you seen my new website.

          • vorpal

            Yawn.

          • ezekiel22

            I will cut to the chase. When a man forsakes natural relations with a woman to do that which is not natural with another man their sin shall be upon them. The same goes for the woman.
            What I have found is that homosexuality is a choice. For some they are given over to a perverse mind as they are in complete rebellion against God. For others it is a coercive choice. It seems that being groomed for that lifestyle either incidentally or purposely is being ignored. For them there is hope.
            It is true that God is love. It is also true that God is Justice and Truth.

          • vorpal

            What you have found is that homosexuality is a choice? Exactly how have you found that?

            Of course, the fact that you’re a heterosexual Christian makes you the expert, and we should take your “findings” as truth over the consensus of pretty much every LGBT person and the vast array of medical, psychological, psychiatric, therapeutic, sociological, and social work professionals who have done work in and researched the topic, all of who state that homosexuality is not a choice.

            Regardless, it doesn’t matter if it’s a choice or not. Your religion is undeniably a choice, and you should not be discriminated against for making that choice.

            The rest of your post is meaningless drivel about imaginary nonsense, which you can keep. I have no interest in your personal delusions.

          • ezekiel22

            Yes I knew that when I posted it to you. You see no matter how hard you kick against God and His Law which does condemn homosexuality it is no less real. That is why the LGBT community scream so loudly. Like Hitler you repeat the lie long enough and loud enough people start to believe you. Not everyone is cowed and that really upsets you.

          • vorpal

            I really couldn’t care less what your imaginary sky daddy says, and I’m not going to be held to the arbitrary silliness of the words written by men thousands of years ago and attributed to your imaginary friend.

            Yes, you’re right: the lie of Christianity has been repeatedly long enough and loud enough, and it has corrupted society.

        • SouthTexasFrac

          You really are one sick person. America doesn’t need or want you here. Please go live in Qatar.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Actually it is you that represent a minority of voters. One of the reasons the Republican party has been unsuccessful has been the extreme right which you seem to represent. Frankly, the GOP intends to eradicate extremists as a matter of necessity. Otherwise, the numbers aren’t there to win elections. That means its you that might want to consider moving to Qatar. But don’t fret, Doha is a lovely place, quite modern indeed, with all of the conveniences of home except ignorance.

      • David

        While there are things you say I have disagreed with I totally agree with your statement about LGBT activists alienating former supporters. I spent most of my life advocating equal rights but the bully tactics used now are offensive and self-defeating.

        • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

          “bully tactics used now…”

          What, on earth, are you talking about?

      • vorpal

        LouiseCA, it can be a real challenge to be respectful towards Christians when, as a gay person, you are on their receiving end of so much ill intent, hatred, judgment, and vile and disgusting misconceptions being publicly spread.

        Most gay people do not insult Christians (many of them ARE Christians), and I’ve only heard of one case where a gay person violently attacked Christians. I would say that gay people have been astoundingly civil for the most part.

      • vorpal

        Disrespect breeds disrespect. Far-right Christians have been stunningly and thoroughly horrible towards gay people, going so far as to actively try to meddle in their faith by telling gay people that they cannot be Christian, finding new ways to demonize and shame them, and seeking to limit their rights. Given how absolutely evil these people have acted, I would say that LGBT people have been astoundingly civil on the most part in return.

        Indeed, your post makes far, far more sense if you switch “homosexuality” and “Christianity.” It is far-right Christians who have isolated the majority that used to agree with them, and LGBT people who have been identified as having a legitimate issue.

    • polymath156

      You missed her point on marriage “equality”; it is a definitional question not some merely legal question. Further, non-discrimination laws are mostly bunk. Where is the evidence of any need for it? LGBT people have on average higher educational levels, and income levels than regular folks. Gay couples out-earn cohabitating heterosexuals. At least with blacks, Hispanics, and women (as protected classes) you are dealing with a group that showed signs of negative economic results. And by the way, sexual activities are not a “protected” class for anyone! Bill Clinton is just as vulnerable as Barney Frank if you get my drift.

      • vorpal

        As civil marriage is a legal contract, marriage equality is indeed a legal matter. If you want to consider holy matrimony separately, we can.

    • Jimmy

      Read The Bible and you will know what a Christian is.

      • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

        Well the Christian God of the Bible allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9).

        Is that what you were talking about?

        • Jimmy

          Boy you are totally lost!You are not saved.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            I was quoting the Bible. How does that make me unsaved trash?

          • Jimmy

            I did not say you were trash.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            “I did not say you were trash.”

            OK, I added that. But I WAS quoting the bible verbatim. How does that make me lost?

          • Jimmy

            Because you must know all come short of the Glory God and need a Saviour and his name is Jesus Christ and repent(to change one’s mind).I mean not to insult you just to tell you the truth.As I said I fall all the time, but I ask God for forgiveness. John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.I will pray for you.Remember we all fall short, even Bible Believers.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            No, you weren’t. Quoting the Bible would be doing something like this:

            “By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

            We hanged our harps upon the willows in the midst thereof.

            For there they that carried us away captive required of us a song; and they that wasted us required of us mirth, saying, Sing us one of the songs of Zion.

            How shall we sing the LORD’S song in a strange land?

            If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cunning.

            If I do not remember thee, let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth; if I prefer not Jerusalem above my chief joy.

            Remember, O LORD, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof.

            O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.

            Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.”

            This is Psalms 137. As one can see, this is a psalm of sadness and despair. But Elliott wants you to focus on ONE verse, the last one, as the promotion of child abuse.

            This is called deliberate deception. Better known as lying.

            FAIL.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Actually, I already said I was a Buddhist. I am completely supportive and affirming of inclusive Christianity, however.

            What’s your point?

          • Matthew T. Mason

            You are a liar. That’s my point.

            And Christianity has never been meant as being inclusive. There’s no room for the unrepentant sinner.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            That’s YOUR version of Christianity. There are many who do not share your view.

    • Matthew T. Mason

      “Your first lie is that there is no such thing as marriage equality.”

      Same-sex marriage is not “marriage equality.” Equality is when something is available for EVERYONE. And that means ALL types of marriage: man/woman, man/man, woman/woman, parent/offspring, brother/sister, adult/child, human/animal.

      Don’t play games with me or anyone else here, because whether you believe it or not, there isn’t a single one of us here that’s as stupid as you would like for us to be. You don’t get to play semantics. Either you mean same-sex marriage or you don’t. Period.

      So the statement is correct: There is NO SUCH THING as marriage equality.

      • vorpal

        By your own logic, so-called “pro-life” Christians should thus not be referred to as “pro-life”, as they generally support the death penalty and military measures.

        • WXRGina

          “Vorpal,” I think you protest way too much. If we Christians are so stupid, backward, bigoted, ill-informed and whatever other invective you can dredge up, why would you waste so much of your valuable time spamming this website with your “enlightened” contributions? Why not just ignore us, since, after all, we don’t know what the heck we’re even talking about? Hmmmm…

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Actually I would very much like to know just where the mods are, because “Vorpal” has shown a complete and total lack of respect for others here and the decorum, using profanity and blasphemy whenever it suits him.

            You are on the staff, Gina. Do you think you could wake Matt up?

          • vorpal

            I have barely used any profanity (a$$ I think was the only thing approaching profanity) and I am sorry for that.

            The people here are strong with their opinions, and I thought you could handle some strong counter opinions. Correct me if I’m wrong.

          • vorpal

            I also wouldn’t say that people here have been particularly respectful of me. I figured those that could dish it out could handle it. If I have truly offended anyone, I am sorry.

            If people here would rather I leave, I will. If not, I’ll be less disrespectful in the future.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            I believe the folks here deserve the same respect they show gays and lesbians.

          • vorpal

            Indeed. I can understand that the people here are opposed to same-sex marriage and homosexuality, but the tone and misconceptions used are deliberately inflammatory and meant to demonize and justify their disdain.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Stop. Just stop.

            As I said, respect is earned, not assumed. If homosexuals think they should be treated with respect when, again, their behavior is shoved into our faces, along with a demand for acceptance without reservation?

            Not gonna happen.

            When there is a clear agenda that includes not only the destruction of morality, but also our kids, in teaching them your behavior and even molesting them?

            Nope.

            Leave us alone, leave our kids alone, keep your sexuality to yourselves and stop making unreasonable demands and then maybe you will get my respect.

            But not one second before then.

          • John

            More anti gay trash talk. Destruction of morality? Teaching them behavior? Molesting them? You are a fear monger and nothing else.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Yep. I can back it up, too. But you’d just ignore it, as you have ignored Ray.

            Go away.

          • John

            You can only back it up with more of the talking points that all xtians use about the gay community. If you all of this factual data, judges wouldnt be throwing people like Regenrus under the bus for his failed research. Give us something based in reality and not anti gay animus and only then will we listen.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            “,,,but also our kids, in teaching them(1) your behavior and even molesting them(2)?…”

            1)Vacation Bible School

            2)Priests

            Apparently you’ve got the gays confused with someone else.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Matthew, you are one huge bombastic judgmental turd.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Kind of like when James Maxwell used the perjoratives “Rump Rangers and Carpet Munchers” to describe gays and lesbians in this thread?

            Now that there are folks making you all look silly, it’s time to moderate the comments, right Matt?

          • John

            Awwwww. Are you feeling persecuted? What a whiny baby!

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Shut up, troll.

          • John

            What a rebuttal. Nothing of substance as usual .

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Pot. Kettle.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Ignorance is bliss, eh, Matthew?

          • WXRGina

            Matthew, I’m just a writer here, and I don’t have moderator privileges on the comments. I know that Matt and his skeleton crew are busting their rears doing this site. They will probably get around to blacklisting “Vorpal,” because when someone offers nothing but mindless, spamming vitriol, it’s time to send him on down the road.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            So no dissenting opinions, right Gina? No public discourse? Just pure animus 24/7.

            Thanks for sharing that.

          • vorpal

            It seems that the people here love to dish it out, but can’t seem to take it. If you want this site to be little more than a big circle of mental masturbation, so be it: ban those of us that come to discuss, challenge you, and call you out when you are wrong.

          • vorpal

            Because your ridiculous misconceptions about LGBT people need to be challenged, and because I enjoy developing an appreciation for how the other side thinks and why, even if I disagree vehemently.

          • WXRGina

            What you perceive as “ridiculous misconceptions,” are in truth the facts about the very unhealthy, unnatural, immoral behavior of homosexuality. You can falsely accuse us of “ridiculous misconceptions” (which we didn’t create, by the way), but deep in every person’s spirit, the knowable truth of morality is implanted by God. Everyone inherently knows God’s laws. Some may choose to bury their conscience (which is the part of our mind/heart/spirit that knows the truth), but that will never change the Truth.

          • John

            Not facts only opinions. When Paul Cameron is among those providing the info, it’s a foregone conclusion that it is entirely false. He has been discredited by his own people. It’s hilarious to watch you all trot out this outdated info and lies in order to bolster your already losing position. Hilarious

          • Matthew T. Mason

            And how exactly does Paul Cameron fit into all of this?

          • vorpal

            Gina, I don’t know what to tell you. I’m not going to lie or sugarcoat what some gay people do, and I’m happy to talk honestly about it, but a lot of the claims made here are just completely absurd nonsense.

            I’m completely willing to grant you that it’s perfectly valid to adopt a position from Christian belief that homosexuality is immoral and sinful. However, a lot of absurd nonsense like vastly inflated statistics and exaggerated ridiculousness flies here that simply doesn’t stand up to scrutiny and isn’t backed up by evidence. You are doing yourselves no favours by saying these things: the people who say these things make you all look like fools to anyone who is not on the far Christian right, which is the majority of the population.

            If you want to criticize homosexuality, fine: we can have an honest conversation about the reasons why, and we will likely end up disagreeing on many points, but there is no need to make up erroneous facts or pose gross exaggerations in a last ditch effort to demonize gay people and try to limit or overturn the same-sex marriage movement.

            Indeed, because of these issues, a detailed poll conducted recently showed that a fair majority of the population of the US said they would prefer the company of LGBT people to the company of Evangelical Christians. People know what Evangelicals and other far right Christians are doing to demonize LGBT people, and it really doesn’t leave people with a very positive taste in their mouths about you. I understand that many of you don’t care about this, but if you actually want to have any political influence, this is something that you genuinely HAVE to care about. If you are indifferent to political influence, then keep on going with business as usual, because at this rate, you are helping the LGBT cause far, far more than you are hurting it, and you are making a laughing stock out of the Christian religion, which is sad, because even though I am an atheist, I really do think that there can be beauty in Christianity and in the messages that Jesus gave to humanity. I have seen it before, and those people I have seen it in really did disagree with me on almost everything – make no mistake – but they were indeed Christlike people and you could feel the example in which they lived their lives.

            What is coming, though, from the Christian far right right now is just a lot of ugliness, and that does not necessarily stem from the point they are trying to make, but from the tactics that are being used to try to do so. Many people now see Christians as being hateful, horrible people, and it isn’t LGBT people that are leading them to that opinion.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Actually, as more listen to the lie the LGBTQW’s agenda is all about sunshine, rainbows and unicorn farts (Pay no attention to the pride parades and NAMBLA) and this nation continues to trade its morality for DIY morals, I firmly believe this country will not be on the playing field when the events foretold in the Book of Revelation come to pass.

            God will not bless a nation that has turned its back on Him.

          • WXRGina

            I don’t know what “vastly inflated statistics” you’re talking about, and it doesn’t matter what sort of warped perception anyone has of Christians, and it doesn’t matter what you refuse to believe or how you try to flood this comments section with empty verbosity: God’s Truth does not change, and homosexuality will always be wrong, period.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            “God’s Truth does not change, and homosexuality will always be wrong, period.”

            Better get that message to the Pope. He doesn’t feel the same way.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            “Everyone inherently knows God’s laws.”

            Irrelevant since whatever God’s laws are, they are certainly not the law of the land. Could you imagine a prison scene, “Hey Joe, what are you in for?” “Well Sam, I broke one of God’s laws and now I am doing 5 to 7…”

            Ludicrous.

          • Jeff Allen

            So, if we toss out laws that are based upon God’s laws, then should we also get rid of the rights that were “endowed” to us by our Creator too? And every law is based upon someone’s moral principle, so why should yours alone be the basis of the “law of the land.” We have just as much of a right to defend things from a biblical point of view, especially since that’s really best for our country.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            The only place there’s “ridiculous misconceptions” is in your equally ridiculous imagination.

          • vorpal

            No, the “facts” you post are completely non-factual and are just so ludicrously insane that any reasonably minded person laughs at them. If that is seriously what you think about gay people, you are completely ignorant with respect to how gay people live their lives.

          • vorpal

            (Incidentally, I don’t think I ever implied that Christians as a whole are any of those things, and I certainly don’t believe it. I may disagree with you strongly on many points, but some of the people here are obviously intelligent, and I’ve said as much in some of my posts.)

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Actually, the funny thing is, Gina, MOST Christians are not stupid, backward, bigoted, ill-informed or whatever other invective someone can dredge up. It appears to be a local phenomena among those posting here.

            How do you account for that?

          • WXRGina

            HRC troll, I will not concede your faulty premise, so you can account for whatever you imagine.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            See there you go assuming I’m with HRC. You’d be wrong about that, but that IS the way it works in your limited worldview. Good versus evil – you think you’re good and I’m evil. Guess what? You’re fookin’ nuts.

            And what a career choice. Yo momma must be so proud of you being a paid writer of bigotry and all. God bless, but I’m not sure he’s interested in your type.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            1) Who are “most Christians?”

            2) I know of NO “Christian” who is “stupid, backward, etc.” because they don’t think a person’s sexual behavior should be shoved into their face with forced acceptance thereof. As I have said before.

            This is why, indeed, morality is not defined by individual choice.

        • Matthew T. Mason

          Actually that brings to mind the question of how someone like me can be pro-life and for the death penalty.

          It’s easy, really: I believe in protecting the innocent and punishing the guilty.

          • vorpal

            I’m not questioning the stance (but I appreciate the comment all the same); I’m questioning the terminology, like you are with “marriage equality”. “Pro-life” implies that you have a general pro-life stance. “Anti-abortion” would be more appropriate.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Uh, no. “Pro-life” doesn’t extend to crime and punishment issues just because you want it to.

          • vorpal

            And marriage equality doesn’t extend to bestiality, polyamory, incest, or pedophilia just because you want it to.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Look up the word “equality” in the dictionary and understand you are not free to hijack and change the meaning for your self-serving needs.

          • vorpal

            Look up the word “life” in a dictionary and understand you are not free to hijack and change the meaning for your self-serving needs.

            Just as the “marriage equality” movement may be about marriage for one minority group, the “pro-life” movement only applies to life in one stage. They would both not be particularly useful terms for someone who was hearing them for the first time.

            Politics is all about silly little catchphrases designed to make one’s own side look good and the other side look bad. US politics is one of the worst and most vicious in this regard.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Pro-life people do not believe in abortion, euthanasia or murder. It was pro-life people who were outside protesting the starvation death of Terri Schiavo.

            People who believe in marriage “equality” believe it should be only for man/woman and man/man or woman/woman, but fail to understand what “equality” really means. So when confronted with it, they say, “That’s okay. We’ll just change the meaning of that word, too.”

            No you won’t.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            “No you won’t.”

            Too late.

      • John

        Been over this before but will do it slowly this time….both parties have to consent and children and animals cannot do that. More nonsense from the nonsensical.

        • Matthew T. Mason

          And….do you have a point?

          • John

            A third grader could understand what I wrote…..

          • Matthew T. Mason

            A third grader would have made a point.

          • John

            point made dimwit…LOL

          • Matthew T. Mason

            What was it?

      • http://www.buellreview.com/ D Buell

        Dude, Parent/offspring? Brother/sister? Adult/child? Human/animal? You bring this into a marriage equality debate? You are a right wing Bigot! And you are trying to tell us you are not as stupid as we think you are? You just proved it it you idjit!

        • Jeff Allen

          We bring these things into a debate because there are documented cases of these things. And they ALL use the same exact stupid argument of the homosexuals.

  • Jeff

    Bigotry disguised as “religious freedom” is still bigotry. I honestly thought this article was satire and was laughing until I realized that you actually believe the hate that you’re spewing. It’s a sad truth that there are still people as hateful as you in this world that use a book that preaches love, peace and acceptance to fuel your hate. If you’d like to refer to Sodom, please continue to read to the point where the only survivors get their father drunk to repopulate. And if you’d like to quote Leviticus, please know that you now cannot wear clothes of two different fabrics. You’re a buffet Christian, picking and choosing what works for you. The only “gay agenda” is to be recognized under the law. Not “god’s law.” The law of the United States, where there’s this crazy idea called the separation of church and state. Why your religion, among the thousands of others, should receive a special voice and be allowed to dictate the laws of everyone else is beyond me. It’s downright stupid. Jews don’t eat pork, but you don’t see them trying to outlaw it. Hindus don’t eat beef, but I’ve never seen a single “anti-beef” law proposed. You may feel that others are violating the laws of your god, but thou shalt not judge. It’s saddening to think that among all of the problems in this world: disease, poverty, violence, and countless others, you choose to rally against something like love. Imagine the good that you could do with your position, with your passion put towards helping the helpless. Giving a voice to the voiceless. Believe it or not, there is no “war” on religion, there is a fight for equal rights. Just the fact that marriage is no longer an exchange between a woman’s father offering goods to a man proves that the definition of marriage has already changed drastically. After all that I have said, the most sad part about this is that I’m sure it has fallen on deaf ears. You seem closed off to any counter-argument, unwilling to entertain the thought that you may be wrong. I hope that there is a god so that he may judge you accordingly.

    • LouiseCA

      And you think that Christians are not fighting disease, poverty, illiteracy, and giving a voice to the voiceless? Do you own a tv? Get newsletters?
      You see what you want to see, not what really is. The hatred is all on your side. And the bigotry which you try to accuse us with is actually your bigotry against us.
      You are offered freedom, deliverance and eternal life from the King of Kings. You do not have to live that way, eaten up by hatred and blinded by the enemy of your soul. He wants you to spend eternity with Him, not continue on the path that you are on. I pray some day you will find that out for yourself. There is no hatred on my part toward you or anyone else.

      • Jeff

        You keep saying “Christians” and “us” when I was specifically talking about one Christian.

    • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

      If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:13

      Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. Romans 1: 24, 25, 26, 27.

      The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. Deuteronomy 22:5.

      Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Jude 7

      Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind. 1 Corinthians 6: 9.

      Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine. 1 Timothy 1:9,10.

      And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast. And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Lev 20: 15, 16.

      Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. Leviticus 18: 22, 23.

      • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

        So sorry to hear about your daughter, Ray.

        Deuteronomy 22:13-21 (KJV)

        13 If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her,

        14 And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid:

        15 Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel’s virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate:

        16 And the damsel’s father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her;

        17 And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter’s virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city.

        18 And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him;

        19 And they shall amerce him in an hundred shekels of silver, and give them unto the father of the damsel, because he hath brought up an evil name upon a virgin of Israel: and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days.

        20 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:

        21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father’s house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.

        • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

          This is in your future.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Uh oh, not the lake of fire!

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            You are a fool.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            You are looking in the mirror.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            Some statistics about the Homosexual lifestyle:

            • One study reports 70% of homosexuals admitting to having sex only one time with over 50% of their partners (3).

            • One study reports that the average homosexual has between 20 and 106 partners per year (6). The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime.

            • Many homosexual sexual encounters occur while drunk, high on drugs, or in an orgy setting (7).

            • Many homosexuals don’t pay heed to warnings of their lifestyles: “Knowledge of health guidelines was quite high, but this knowledge had no relation to sexual behavior” (16).

            • Homosexuals got homosexuality removed from the list of mental illnesses in the early 70s by storming the annual American Psychiatric Association (APA) conference on successive years. “Guerrilla theater tactics and more straight-forward shouting matches characterized their presence” (2). Since homosexuality has been removed from the APA list of mental illnesses, so has pedophilia (except when the adult feels “subjective distress”) (27).

            • Homosexuals account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea cases, 60% of all syphilis cases, and 17% of all hospital admissions (other than for STDs) in the United States (5). They make up only 1-2% of the population.

            • Homosexuals live unhealthy lifestyles, and have historically accounted for the bulk of syphilis, gonorrhea, Hepatitis B, the “gay bowel syndrome” (which attacks the intestinal tract), tuberculosis and cytomegalovirus (27).

            • 73% of psychiatrists say homosexuals are less happy than the average person, and of those psychiatrists, 70% say that the unhappiness is NOT due to social stigmatization (13).

          • Kyle

            And 98% of statistics are made up…

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Especially these. They are ancient (i.e. 1994) and come from an anti-gay propaganda book. Fun fact: Statistically, heterosexuals are 10 times more likely to be “sodomites” given that the CDC indicated that 32.6 of women (aged 18-44) engage such practice. Compare that to the “3%” population of most of the people here would agree identify as gay or lesbian. Then it’s simple math, and actually higher than 10 times more likely since not all gays and lesbians engage in such practice. But why let facts get in the way of hate?

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            • Homosexuals were responsible for spreading AIDS in the United States, and then raised up violent groups like Act Up and Ground Zero to complain about it. Even today, homosexuals account for well over 50% of the AIDS cases in the United States, which is quite a large number considering that they account for only 1-2% of the population.

            • Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne (8).

            • 37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism (8).

            • 41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs (8).

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Seriously, if you believe this crap then you need help.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            I presented God’s Word to you and you rejected it.
            I presented to you the facts concerning that utterly
            filthy sin and you rejected it.
            I wash my hands of you. Your sin will be upon your own head. You are such a fool.

            Good bye.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            You presented invalid information as “facts” to support your position. Your facts do not hold water. You cannot support your position and that is why you wrote what you did above. You know it and I know it. Now everyone else does, too.

            You’d better wash your hands, in the eyes of Jesus, they are dirty.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Dude, Ray presented facts, and cited sources. You chose to ignore them because they get in the way of your phantasmagoric homosexual utopia. That’s not his fault, but yours. Game, set and match, pal. You lose.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Dude, Ray presented garbage. You are presenting more garbage. You can’t handle the truth.

            You know, if it’s people like you and Ray waiting for me in the kingdom of heaven when I die, well, frankly, I’m not interested. Let Jesus know that you failed when you say your prayers tonight.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            If you don’t know Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, I am not the one failing.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Isn’s nice that you can hide behind Jesus when you are losing an argument?

            WWJD?

          • Matthew T. Mason

            And how am I losing an argument that’s already been won, and not by you?

            At this point all you are doing is trolling.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            “…how am I losing an argument that’s already been won…”

            You’re right. Seventeen states currently have marriage equality. Since DOMA was ruled unconstitutional last June another nineteen Federal Judges have ruled (every case heard) that state laws that ban marriage equality are unconstitutional. A majority of these Federal Judges were appointed by Presidents Reagan, Bush 1 and Bush 2.

            There will be another SCOTUS ruling before the next Presidential election in 2016. It will be favorable toward marriage equality. As a registered Republican, I am elated because opposition to gay marriage will not will win elections with popular support at 54% and growing.

            So call me a troll, call me a sodomite, call me what ever you want. I really don’t care. The game has already been won, it’s just a matter of time.

            The sooner you realize that, the sooner we can work on things that really make a difference for conservatives.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Nice try, dodging the subject. This is about what Ray said.

            And for the record, there’s no such thing as marriage equality. Still.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            “there’s no such thing as marriage equality”

            Except in 17 states (soon to be 25), DC and another 15 or 16 countries (and counting).

            PS: Congrats to the new married couples in the UK this weekend!

            PPS: Project much about dodging the subject, Matt?

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Same-sex marriage isn’t marriage equality. The terms are mutually exclusive, which have been over time and time again.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            “time and time again.”

            Please define.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Shut up, troll.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            “Shut up, troll.”

            Yes, indeed, that is a loser comment.

          • Guest

            Yeah, you lost the moment you called me a troll.

          • vorpal

            There were no actual citations. (27) is not a citation unless (27) is qualified somewhere with an actual bibliographic entry to back it up.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            It doesn’t matter what you think. Based on everything I have already seen, someone could say firecrackers go boom, set one off in front of you to prove their point, and you’d still deny it for no reason other than being a complete jerk, which has been how you have been behaving here from the word GO.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Are you talking about yourself?

            It does’t matter what you think. Time marches on.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Only if my name is “Vorpal.” And it’s not.

          • vorpal

            Not at all. I’m always game to consider evidence-based facts.

            As for rudeness, I am sorry if I was being overly abrasive, but I must say that out of the people I’ve met here, you were one of the rudest to me and to anyone who disagreed with you in general, being deliberately inflammatory and nasty. Nastiness begets nastiness, Matthew.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Dude, when you come in here ignoring valid points in favor of your version of reality, as well as the clearly stated Comment Policy, with profanity and blasphemy, do you really expect so much as a modicum of respect?

            REALLY?

            Here’s a tip for you: Respect is not assumed. It’s earned. And you have done NOTHING to earn my respect here.

          • vorpal

            See my post to Gina (above, I think) for a more thorough commentary.

            I have apologized for any profanity (which was minimal) and blasphemy (which may have been less than minimal at times).

            It generally takes two, though, Matthew, to have a nasty and disrespectful conversation. I have apologized to you and in general if my tone was overly nasty and said that I would endeavour to change that, and there’s not much more I can do. You can either choose to accept my apology, which is genuinely intended, or you can choose not to and ask me to leave, seek to have me banned, or simply not converse with me any further. I respect whatever decision you make.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            You don’t deserve an ounce of respect.

          • John

            He presented nothing more than xtian talking points passed around the internet in the guise of factual info. You lose big boy.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Your blatant trolling doesn’t impress me.

          • vorpal

            You don’t get to choose facts. Present a fact and we’ll consider it.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Pardon?

          • vorpal

            LOL you believe some pretty off-the-wall things about gay men. My big gay husband and I enjoy reading these lists and laughing. Talk about ridiculously inflated statistics.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            John 8:44
            Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it…

          • vorpal

            Posting a bible verse doesn’t back up your claims, though. Why don’t you tell us where you got them from, so that we can actually check the parenthesized citations?

          • sandraleesmith46

            The CDC, in this morning’s pages, is now admitting there is female homosexual HIV/AIDS transmission, for the first time; this on the heels a few weeks back, of admitting they’d LIED for over 30 years about the mode of transmission of the virus, denying several of the vectors by which it transmits between humans!

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            No surprise there

          • sandraleesmith46

            Only that they’re admitting it in public access pages, and that the lie is coming out finally. They still aren’t publicly broadcasting the truth about that disease’ transmission.

          • sandraleesmith46

            So ignore them at your own peril!

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            The saddest part of these statistics is that you’re still waving them around proudly as if they have any footing in reality.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            • 25-33% of homosexuals and lesbians are alcoholics (11).

            • Of homosexuals questioned in one study reports that 43% admit to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admit to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% say that half of those partners are total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts are one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film “The Castro”, one minute stands) (3). Also, it is a favorite past-time of many homosexuals to go to “cruisy areas” and have anonymous sex.

            • 78% of homosexuals are affected by STDs (20).

            • The Los Angeles Police says, “30,000 sexually abused children in Los Angeles were victims of homosexuals” (10).

            • 50% of suicides can be attributed to homosexuals (10).

            • It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim, so thanks to the promiscuous lifestyle of homosexuals, medical insurance rates have been skyrocketing for all of us(10).

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Your statistics are worthless without a valid citation of origin. Please provide.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            The homosexual agenda:

            •The homosexual agenda includes desensitizing the public: “The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights…..To desensitize the public is to help it view homosexuality with indifference instead of with keen emotion. Ideally, we would have straights register differences in sexual preferences the way they register different tastes for ice cream or sports games….At least in the beginning, we are seeking public desensitization and nothing more. We do not need and cannot expect a full ‘appreciation’ or ‘understanding’ of homosexuality from the average American. You can forget about trying to persuade the masses that homosexuality is a good thing. But if only you can get them to think that it is just another thing…then your battle for legal and social rights is virtually won” (25).

            •Part of the homosexual agenda is to get the public to affirm their filthy lifestyle, as one homosexual admitted in the October 1987 homosexual rally on Washington: “We are no longer seeking just a right to privacy and a protection from wrong. We also have a right — as heterosexual Americans already have — to see government and society affirm our lives” (27).

            •Part of the homosexual agenda is to turn people from Christianity: “The teaching that only male-female sexual activity within the bounds and constraints of marriage is the only acceptable form should be reason enough for any homosexual to denounce the Christian religion” (1).

            •Homosexuals knowingly lied (and still lie) about the 10% figure (i.e., homosexuals make up 10% of the population). As Tom Stoddard (formerly of the Lambda Legal Defense Fund) said, “We used that figure when most gay people were entirely hidden to try to create an impression of our numerousness” (17).

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Citation, please. This is all fiction until you provide a credible source.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            More of the same anti-gay propaganda. You’re grasping at straws to support your argument. If you have to base your position on invalid data, do you think maybe you’re trying to justify your bias and anti-gay animus? Of course you are.

            Why not educate yourself with real facts and dump the hate and bias?

          • Frank Keen

            ray don’t wast your time with this asshole,….just wait til the next mid term election when we will get to throw all these damn dirty good for nothing Democrats out on their no good asses next November,….and reverse all this foul filth!!!!….And anyone that parades around naked in a gay parade is nothing but foul filth,…especially in front of children…….A lot of people are starting to get fed up with these pervert parades!!!….

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Obesity is a much more common, serious and costly heath issue affecting 34.9% of the US population and yet here you are fixated on homosexuals who most on this site would argue represent 1.5% to 3% of the population. Given the much greater health cost associated with obesity, it is apparent that your fixation on AIDS (which the CDC does not consider a gay disease) is rooted in animus. Read on about the much higher cost of obesity:
            More than one-third of U.S. adults (34.9%) are obese. [Read abstract Journal of American Medicine (JAMA)]
            Obesity-related conditions include heart disease, stroke, type 2 diabetes and certain types of cancer, some of the leading causes of preventable death.
            The estimated annual medical cost of obesity in the U.S. was $147 billion in 2008 U.S. dollars; the medical costs for people who are obese were $1,429 higher than those of normal weight.
            This data comes from the CDC and is a credible source. Please provide a source for your statistical citation or I will consider failure to provide your tacit admission that you are simply presenting anti-gay propaganda with no foundation in reality. I also wonder, since you are so concerned about the high cost of healthcare, are you disparaging obese people for their choices?

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            REFERENCES

            (1) Advocate, 1985.

            (2) Bayer, R. Homosexuality and American Psychiatry.

            (3) Bell, A. and Weinberg, M. Homosexualities: a Study of Diversity Among Men and Women. New York: Simon & Schuster, 1978.

            (4) Cameron et. al. ISIS National Random Sexuality Survey. Nebraska Med. Journal, 1985, 70, pp. 292-299.

            (5) “Changes in Sexual Behavior and Incidence of Gonorrhea.” Lancet, April 25, 1987.

            (6) Corey, L. and Holmes, K. “Sexual Transmission of Hepatitis A in Homosexual Men.” New England J. Med., 1980, pp. 435-38.

            (7) Family Research Institute, Lincoln, NE.

            (8) Fields, Dr. E. “Is Homosexual Activity Normal?” Marietta, GA.

            (9) Jay and Young. The Gay Report. Summit Books, 1979, p. 275.

            (10) Kaifetz, J. “Homosexual Rights Are Concern for Some,” Post-Tribune, 18 December 1992.

            (11) Kus, R. “Alcoholics Anonymous and Gay America.” Medical Journal of Homosexuality, 1987, 14(2), p. 254.

            (12) Lesbian News, January 1994.

            (13) Lief, H. Sexual Survey Number 4: Current Thinking on Homosexuality, Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality, 1977, pp. 110-11.

            (14) Manlight, G. et. al. “Chronic Immune Stimulation By Sperm Alloantigens.” J. American Med. Assn., 1984, 251(2), pp. 237-438.

            (15) Morton-Hunt Study for Playboy

            (16) MsKusick, L. et. al. “AIDS and Sexual Behavior Reported By Gay Men in San Francisco.” Am. J. Pub. Health, 1985, 75, pp. 493-96.

            (17) Newsweek, February 1993.

            (18) Newsweek, 4 October 1993.

            (19) Psychological Reports, 1986, 58, pp. 327-37.

            (20) Rueda, E. “The Homosexual Network.” Old Greenwich, Conn., The Devin Adair Company, 1982, p. 53.

            (21) San Francisco AIDS Foundation, “Can We Talk.”

            (22) San Francisco Sentinel, 27 March 1992.

            (23) Science Magazine, 18 July 1993, p. 322.

            (24) Statistical Abstract of the U.S., 1990.

            (25) “The Overhauling of Straight America.” Guide Magazine. November, 1987.

            (26) United States Census Bureau

            (27) United States Congressional Record, June 29, 1989.

            (28) University of Chicago’s Nation Research Corp.

            (29) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders Fourth Edition, American Psychiatric Association, 1994.

            © 2000- 2003 International Organization of Heterosexual Rights

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            So no data or statistics from the 21st century? We are in the 2nd decade of it, after all.

            In fact, the newest citation you provide is from 1994 – more than 2 decades ago and ancient in terms of sociology and statistics. Then there’s the copyright “owner” of the data, the so-called “International Organization of Heterosexual Rights.” No bias there, right?

            Your data is clearly not valid. Seems to me if you build your foundation on sand, your argument won’t hold up.

            WWJD? Certainly not what you are doing in your spare time.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            “REFERENCES”

            Isn’t that cute?

          • Matthew T. Mason

            And…how is obesity relevant to this discussion, other than a lazy attempt to change the subject, in which case is an epic fail?

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Thanks for asking: Ray is demonizing a small percentage of the population (gay) over what he perceives as being responsible for a disproportionate contribution to healthcare cost. I simply provided a group of citizens (the obese, are you listening Matt?) that cost many magnitudes more than AIDS patients and was wondering why Ray was chasing the low pole in the tent. Really, with almost 35% of the population obese, and the CDC clear on the $147 billion dollar cost of healthcare associated with obesity, why is he going after the 1.5 to 3% that is gay. Especially considering that less than 5% of 1.5% to 3% is HIV positive. Could those HIV positive guys cost more than $147 billion that we see from the obese? Not according to Rays math. It’s obvious that Ray, as a healthcare cost crusader, is completely misguided in his efforts to reduce expense.

            I’m thinking it’s all about animus toward gays.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            I’m thinking Arby’s. Which is just as much of a non-sequitur as obesity.

            FAIL.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            So I guess your position is that when you don’t have an intelligent response, well, just answer FAIL (in all caps for emphasis) and see if that slides buy.

            Hint: It doesn’t.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            look up “non-sequitur,” troll

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Hey Matt, when you have no argument call your opponent a troll. You know, similar to Godwin’s Law.

            Sucks to be you.

          • vorpal

            Hahahaha! This is completely ridiculous madness. What utter garbage.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            As I told John, prove it, using the same standard as Ray.

          • vorpal

            Ray’s standards consisted of using a bunch of baseless statistics that do not reflect reality. I do not think that you want me to use those standards as they are meaningless.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            In other words, when push comes to shove, you have nothing. Which is a shock to no one.

          • vorpal

            There is nothing to refute. He hasn’t cited his statistics, so I can’t even see where he dug them up from.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Of course. Just as when I presented Fistgate and Pono Choices as proof homosexuality is being taught to children. You naturally ignored them because it gets in the way of your sunshine, rainbows and unicorn fart world of the happy-go-lucky *this* close to sainthood homosexual.

            The same way you ignore everything that challenges your disingenuous soul.

            You see why I don’t have respect for you?

          • vorpal

            If and when you stop behaving like an obnoxious child, I’ll consider talking to you further. Until then, I’m going to simply ignore any comments from you.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Ray never proved anything.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Then prove him wrong. Don’t just say it, prove it.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            I’m not the none making assertions, Ray is, It’s up to Ray to make his intellectual case.

          • John

            If thats your picture, you bring shame to the uniform in perpetrating lies against your fellow man.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Prove they are lies. With sources, as Ray has done.

            Which I know you won’t.

          • John

            His “facts” have been debunked over and over. Open your eyes and look for yourself. The studies are older than I am..LOL. If this drivel is what you and your fellow xtians call facts, its no wonder you lose every single time it goes to court.>>>>LOL!!!!

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Nice try. “Look for yourself” is just a poor man’s way of saying, “I can’t prove it, but I am going to say it anyway.”

            You are the one that said it, you are the one to prove it.

            Put up or shut up.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Actually, Ray never provided any kind of citation for his assertions so I agree.

            Ray: Put up or shut up!

          • Matthew T. Mason

            He provided sources. That’s enough. Can you do better? Can you do anything at all other than provide enough hot air for a balloon festival?

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            I’m still hoping Ray will provide citations from the 21st century. Everything he posted is more decades old and are not valid statistics in 2014.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            John 8:44
            Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

          • Jimmy

            You will not be joking on Judgement Day.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Nope, I’ll be celebrating that all the sanctimonious fools are leaving Earth so that the rest of us can live in peace!

          • Jimmy

            You will have no peace on Judgement day!I am not saying that am sinless but I tell The Lord I am sorry.You say you are a Buddist but some of the comments you say are quite nasty.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            “some of the comments you say are quite nasty…”

            Just mirroring the communication style of the other vociferous posters. But I use far fewer pejoratives.

          • vorpal

            This is how I feel about that.

          • Jimmy

            Ray you can not talk to this man.He has not the Holy Spirit.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            So true.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Well if you people are examples of folks who speak with the “holy sprit”, I’ll pass. Nothing but a bunch of sanctimonious freaks.

      • Jeff

        Ok. Bible quotes…thank you?

    • Indiana Conservative

      The above are the ramblings of a mentally derranged sick ididot liberal

      • Jeff

        1. The word you were looking for is “deranged.” One r next time.
        2. Also, “idiot.” I’m not sure what an ididiot is.
        3. Commas also work quite well.
        4. So do periods at the end of your sentence.
        But I digress (that means to go off topic). When insulting someone, you might want to make sure you’re not insulting yourself at the same time.

        • Matthew T. Mason

          Wow! Grammar troll!

      • Frank Keen

        They just found out that LIBERALISM is Now A Disease From A Well Known physiologist

        • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

          They also found out that people that watch Fox News are less intelligent than those that watch other news programs. True story.

    • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

      John 8:44

      Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.
      He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth,
      because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh
      of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

      • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

        “Ye are of your father the devil…”

        Seriously. Back on your meds. The delusions are coming back.

    • SouthTexasFrac

      Don’t say there is no “war” on religion when the whole premise of “marriage” is religious. Marriage is a religious ceremony. Being an American gave you certain rights. Those rights should not be infringed. NO WHERE do those rights say the government needs to acknowledge your sexual orientation.

      • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

        “the whole premise of “marriage” is religious.”

        Huh, really? You can marry in city hall and get a license from the government and be considered married without ever stepping foot in a church, but you cannot get married in a church and be considered legally married without a license from the government. What does that tell you? (hint: your marriage does not count unless you have a marriage license)

    • JJM123

      “crazy idea called the separation of church and state”

      AMENDMENT I
      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
      IMHO – This does not SEPERATE, it prevents an ordered National Religion (ie Church Of England) AND protects your freedom to worship in the church of your choice (provided it does not harm others).

      “miscreant federal judges arbitrarily overturn the will of the people in state after state by imposing same-sex “marriage” on them” Certainly sounds to me like ‘prohibiting the free exercise thereof’.

    • Matthew T. Mason

      “Bigotry disguised as “religious freedom” is still bigotry.”

      Ah, the old “if you disagree or disapprove in any way there’s something wrong with you” argument. And it comes from people who took their sexual behavior out of the bedroom (where it belongs), built a world around it, shoved it into my face and demanded acceptance of it without reservation.

      And you say there’s something wrong with us.

      ” And if you’d like to quote Leviticus, please know that you now cannot wear clothes of two different fabrics.”

      We may quote Leviticus, but that doesn’t mean it applies to us. That is, unless we are Jewish, which is what the book of Leviticus, part of Mosaic law, covers.

      ” Believe it or not, there is no “war” on religion, there is a fight for equal rights.”

      And considering the behavior of homosexual activists over the past 5 years or so, that can only be a strong contender for Lie of The Year.

      BZZT! Sorry, wrong answer. Try again.

    • ezekiel22

      Good Morning Jeff, I see you are still around trying to educate the unwashed masses. I see also that you still like to pick the parts of the Bible you like and ignore completely the parts you don’t. Typical.
      Homofascists is a good name for these jokers. They trample over everyones rights fot their own agenda. Of course like you they attempt to legitimize their actions by telling only half the truth. We do know that there is no so called separation of church and state. Really. I have read the entire letter written by Thomas Jefferson concerning that statement and nowhere does it focus on a separation of the church from the state as a complee divorcement. Only and I repeat only a wall that forbids the establishment of a church by the state. Think Church of England and Roman Catholic Church as well as the infamous Pew Tax. You will find plenty of info when you do the research. As a matter of fact you would do well to know that Mr. Jefferson did indeed endorse and campaign for the use of the Bible in public schools of which he was in charge. Haardly the actions of a man that wanted the church or christianity out of the public life entirely.
      You say that christians are not to judge. You could read the rest of the Bible in order to understand that yes we are instructed to judge sin without an apology. Furthermore we are told that we will be judging angels at a time after Christ’s return. So judging sin now will be good practice. Do not forget that the harlot caught in adultery was told to go and sin no more.
      When the gay lobby sees to it that any therapy to help gays adapt to a hetro lifestyle is made illegal such as was done in New Jersey they are indeed stepping on others rights. Of course misery does love company and they are trying to get as many as they can. I know gays of both sexes that do want to change and you guys are no help. The truth be told there is no conclusive evidence that God made people gay. In other words born that way. There is a mounting mountain of evidence that there are indeed circumstances that contribute to the decision to choose the gay lifestyle. Politically it is more efficacious to choose the victim card rather than the choice card. Moally it is reprehensible and even more so when one considers the lengths the LGBT bodies go to prevent those that want change to get the help needed. Goodninght.

      • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

        If you’re referring to David Barton’s book, The Jefferson Lies, it has been completely discredited by the academic community as hogwash. In fact, it was even pulled from publication. Just like Mark Regnerus’s anti-gay parenting study.

        Then there is ex-gay therapy. Well hey, as long as it is a choice then you can berate people about being gay and you are not bigots, but since intelligent educated folks with a background in science consider being gay an immutable trait, well that game is over.

        It’s funny that religious conservatives are attempting to rewrite history and falsify studies to justify their unpopular views. Well, sad actually, since they don’t seem to be getting away with it any longer.

        God bless.

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

    PLEASE consider the genesis: Had the framers established government and society upon Yahweh’s immutable morality as reflected in His commandments, statutes, and judgments (including Leviticus 18:22 & 20:13), there would be no homosexual agenda today (anymore then there was in 1600 America) because no sodomite or lesbian would dare petition the government for their “rights.” That this is true cannot be debated.

    That’s right! The Constitution is responsible for this and everything else that’s put America on the precipice of moral depravity and destruction:

    “…3. Every problem America faces today can be traced back to the fact
    that the framers failed to expressly establish a government upon
    Yahweh’s immutable morality as codified in His commandments, statutes,
    and judgments. (Would infanticide and sodomy be tolerated, let alone
    financed by the government, if Yahweh’s perfect law and altogether
    righteous judgments were the law of the land? Would Islam be a looming
    threat to our peace and security if the First Amendment had been
    replaced with the First Commandment? Would Americans be in nearly as
    much debt if usury had been outlawed as a form of theft? Would crime be
    as rampant if “cruel and unusual punishment” had not been outlawed and
    criminals were instead punished with Yahweh’s altogether righteous
    judgments? Would we be on the fiscal cliff if we were taxed with a flat
    increase tax rather than a graduated income tax?)….”

    For more, see our Featured Blog article “5 Reasons the Constitution is Our Cutting-Edge Issue.” Click on my name, then our website. This article will be found at the top of the page.

    Then find out how much your REALLY know about the Constitution as compared to the Bible. Take our Constitution Survey in the right-hand sidebar and receive complimentary copy of an 85-page book that EXAMINES the Constitution by the Bible.

  • Norm

    Up here in farm country we have a saying “c’mon down to the barnyard, c’mon down to the farm! You won’t see two roosters walkin’ arm in arm” Where did you come from Jeff? I assume you were born of a woman that was impregnated by a man.
    There are no children born of “gay marriage” unless you count women who spend a lot for invitro. Doesn’t it strike you as odd that homosexuality is a dead end for reproduction? (and don’t bring up adoption please-those children are born of a man and a woman)

    Please do not quote scripture and give validity to perversion and degeneracy. It’s not bigotry, It’s common sense and if I don’t agree with you, that’s ok with me and it should be ok with you. I happen to believe in the Lord and his goodness and his blessings and his guidance. I don’t “hope” there is a God, I know Him and pray that you would too. Sexual identity and celebration of sex (gay pride) is a mistake.

    • Jeff

      If reproduction is the sole purpose of marriage, please feel free to deny it to those who are infertile or past child bearing age. Your argument is invalid. It’s not “odd” that homosexuality is a “dead end” for reproduction, it’s basic science. Why that’s a point against gay marriage is beyond rational thought.

      • ezekiel22

        It is their choice.

      • Mark Luttrell

        THANKyou for a decently worded disagreement. And I can disagree too. Appreciated.
        Good point. Sterile, or infertility throws a block in reproduction. Then the marriage is companionship and sex. Even old pple who marry try to, I think.
        Brb

    • vorpal

      So what if there are no children born from same-sex partnerships? Who cares?

      If you don’t like a “celebration of sex” (which is a gross misrepesentation of gay pride and ignores the history and intention of the event), don’t participate in gay pride or Mardi Gras or spring break. Simple as that. As for the rest of us who don’t share your opinion or don’t believe in your religion, we see no reason to follow your big book of rules.

    • Mark Luttrell

      I agree. Sex and reproduction are two different things. Those who choose sex with the same gender, loose the ability to reproduce. Evolution will filter them out of the population eventually. UNLESS they can pass on the concept to following generations, …

      • vorpal

        Given that heterosexuals seem to consistently produce homosexuals at a fairly fixed rate, I don’t think that this is an issue.

        Also, gay people do not “lose” the ability to reproduce. Despite being married to a man, as far as I can tell, I have a fully functioning set of male genitalia between my legs and am thus capable of reproduction if I so choose. I no more lose my ability to reproduce than does a single heterosexual.

        • Mark Luttrell

          Well now I know. Would you have sex with a woman or artificial ensemination (no spell check on this lil android).
          A joke, pardon me but;
          J–k off in a supersoaker and do it from a distance.
          Ready. Aim. Fire…

          • vorpal

            LOL I’d prefer the super soaker for certain, but if I wanted to reproduce and had no other option, I suspect I could fight my own revulsion towards heterosexual sex and more specifically with the idea of putting my equipment anywhere near that of a woman, and at least find the strength within myself and fantasize enough to ejaculate into a woman. There is no way, though, that I’d be able to engage in and complete an entire act of sex with a woman. The thought is indeed disturbing and entirely alien to me.

          • Mark Luttrell

            So that’s a mental pic you dont like. Lol understood. You’ve been gay your entire life then(entirely alien).
            Exactly. That’s nearly what I had put on the other page.
            For you momentarily, reproduction.
            What it would take for me to change to gay. Come to think of it, I named off nearly prison circumstances. But I’m gettin skewerd anyway. Over christian antigay, my opinion, called (compared to, same thing) a monkey. Lol ill b gettin back to boo hoo. He or she is mad cuz I said choosing a name like that may mean Troll.

          • Mark Luttrell

            Tks. I’m a smarta$$. But hopefully a humorous one. Been seeing ur posts, actually reading. Lol. Think u got good points. Sometimes i disagree. I’m sure that goes both ways.
            I always look for good in pple. Good & bad in every bunch. Good luck on ur goals. C yaround fer sure.

  • DC/Tex

    The homosexual (not PC gay) “AGENDA” is the worst disease infecting the morals and family values of the USA and the world.
    Homosexuals WERE NOT BORN THAT WAY, they CHOOSE their UNNATURAL unhealthy lifestyle, so, homosexuality does not qualify as a civil rights discrimination issue.
    Homosexuals had equal rights, now they have special rights and want more. Every special right awarded to homosexuals infringes on our rights. Don’t believe me? Ask the baker that refused to bake a homosexual wedding cake.
    God loves everyone, as we all should, including homosexuals. God hates all sin, as we all should, including homosexuality and He says it is an abomination.
    Homosexuality will never be normal, accepted, or OK!

    • Jeff

      Please tell me when homosexuals had equal rights. I’m dying to hear what you’re gonna say next. Also, please cite a source for your baker story. See, in intellectual conversations, you have to back things up with proof. Faith doesn’t work here.

      • ezekiel22

        Come on Jeff you are not being honest here in the least. You already know the lawsuit, especially if you follow the gay issues. Being dishonest here also does not work as you will have people like myself pointing out your lack of veracity. BTW faith it works everywhere.

    • Sudo Nim

      If I could go the rest of my life without hearing “what God said” from a bunch of people who’ve never spoken to him…..I’ll die a happy camper

    • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

      The national government will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality. Today Christians stand at the head of our country. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit. We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press……in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of LIBERAL excess during the past few years.

  • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

    As in the days of Sodom and Gomorrah.

  • SteveN

    You sodomite sympathizers are living proof of just how far down the sewer America has slid. A guy dressed in drag demanding the everyone take him seriously? Is that what you classify as normal and the author of this piece for mentioning it as ‘abnormal’. What a truly sick, depraved bunch you truly are.

    • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

      You abusers of the word sodomite are living proof of just how far down the sewer America has slid.

      • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

        May the Lord rebuke thee.

        • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

          Is that a threat? Jesus would be SO proud of you.

          • Jimmy

            You do not know Scripture do you?

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            I’ve already stated that I’m a buddhist. Your Scriptures (that are newer than my teachings) have no power here.

      • SteveN

        Don’t like that word huh? Look it up in the dictionary pal. It’s what you are.

      • Billy Joe O’Dean

        I love the sound of “former representative.” “Former.” “Former.” “Former.” “Former.” Ahhhhh

        • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

          Yeah, look a little more closely to see why it’s former, rocket scientist.

        • James Maxwell

          Considering how politicians leech off the civilians until they
          are removed from office it does make you wonder why the
          “Former representative” was kicked out of office.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Do a little sleuthing and find out why, Jimmy. She lost her reelection bid after a SCANDAL!

    • edav38

      I think it is pretty Funny that Those who call themselves Christian, Rail about how we Must follow the Word of the Lord, but then completely Ignore that which tells you what the Lord Said, like Ezekiel. If you are going to take the Bible as the Word of God, and that the Word of God is Divinely Inspired to its authors, then how can you IGNORE what Ezekiel told you? And NO this is NOT Twisting the WORD, this is using the WORD to bring understanding. You Use SODOM Incorrectly, But, then you Ignorance Sympathizers, are Known for IGNORING what you Do Not Like,a nd what Does not Fit your RANTS, and doing as You Please, also known as ReWriting the WORD to Suit your Fights:

      Ezekiel 16:49-50
      King James Version (KJV)
      49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
      50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.

      • SteveN

        Sodomites are people who have anal sex. I never quoted anything from the Bible, only Websters Dictionary…duh.

        • edav38

          Which means you a JUST LIKE Liberals, who believe as they are Told to Believe. Just because a Dictionary Makes a Definition does NOT mean they are using the Word Correctly. The Term Sodomite, in relation to the definition that Websters, the New American Dictionary, and other dictionaries, use, is based on Faulty Understanding of the concept. Completely IGNORING what the Bible actually Says the Sin of Sodom is, which is NOT Homosexuality, ALONE, The Sin of Sodom, as I quoted from Ezekiel is DIFFERENT from what your Dictionary and General Belief is. A Belief is NOT always based on FACT, it is more often, in modern times, Based upon what OTHERS have Told a person to believe, Especially in the case of the Cities of the Sidim Plain, which include Sodom, Gamorrah and 3 other cities, all of which were destroyed at the same time, by God, for the Sins, as Ezekiel Defined them in Ezekiel 16:49-50.
          IF you are going to call someone out regarding what you are condemning, Make Sure that you are using FACTUAL information, NOT Biased information based on 3,000 years of Faulty understanding.

          If you need a History Lesson, Read the Bible, because saying what Websters is Saying is a Sodomite, you are getting to concept 100% Incorrect.
          Websters is Only an Authority, because people are UNWILLING to do some research for themselves.

        • vorpal

          The definition of “sodomy” is actually anal OR oral sex. Clearly, you didn’t reference Merriam-Webster’s, which states:

          “anal or oral copulation with a member of the same or opposite sex; also : copulation with an animal”

          Thus, most human beings are actually sodomites.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            “…most human beings are actually sodomites.”

            Not the guys on this board. Their wives won’t go down there.

            Pity.

          • ezekiel22

            And here you are chiding others for not being as classy as you would like. I believe that this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Good to see you are a former.

      • Matthew T. Mason

        Did you by any chance do a complete Bible search using the word, “Sodom?”

    • http://www.buellreview.com/ D Buell

      We are not as depraved as those Who claim to be Christian and then decide you can vote on Who gets rights in violation of Constoitutional law! Look in the mirror pal!

  • Keith Springer

    When you follow each and every rule in the bible to the letter I’ll admire your convictions before you’re sent to jail.

  • Eddie Wilson

    Ms. Miller, if you don’t like it and you feel that strongly about it, just resign your job. If you believe in the Lord and that He’s looking out for you, then resign. Have faith He’ll take care of you. That’s what I did at my job in December and everything turned out fine. No, it’s not the best financial option, but when you turn it over to the Lord, it all works out. Stop being dramatic about it and just quit. Let God worry about that man, and you worry about yourself.

    • WXRGina

      Resign my job? Really? You don’t even see the inanity of what you’re saying? Take a hike, Eddie.

      • Eddie Wilson

        I’ll hike, but I thank you for replying. God bless.

    • WXRGina

      Okay, I got your reply, Eddie, and I’ll elaborate. Your suggestion that anyone facing this kind of situation should just quit is not the answer. People keeping their mouths shut and giving place to mentally and spiritually disordered people who are aggressively pushing this freedom-robbing agenda are why we stand in this position today. Your assertion that those of us who are sounding the warning of this tyrannical movement are being “dramatic” shows that you are uninformed, deceived or disingenuous–I don’t know which.

      • John

        The only ones who are mentally and spiritually disordered are those, like yourself, who push their own special brand of overt bigotry through lies and obfuscation.

        • Matthew T. Mason

          But what lies and obfuscation? Be specific or just admit you are trolling.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Trolling…? You’re berating someone about trolling?

            That’s a laugh coming from you Matt.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            Yep. This is a website by and for Christian conservatives, of which you are neither. You came here.

          • John

            Is that the best you’ve got? Really? Pulling the “troll alert card” every time you have nothing to say only makesyou look all the worse.

      • Eddie Wilson

        Thank you for replying. I don’t believe I am deceived. I just believe that the warning was sounded some twenty to thirty years ago. This culture war is lost. Pure and simple. It’s lost. We the Christians have lost it. Now we just need to humble ourselves and accept that we have lost it. I know you are in Texas. I’ve been there. You’re blessed to live there, but Ms. Miller, things in Texas are not like they are in the rest of the country. Believe me. Outside of Texas, what you are dealing with now, everyone else really dealt with years ago already. Texas is its own isolated world apart from everyone else. I’m not dissing that or insulting that. God bless it. It’s a wholesome God-fearing place. But I’m pointing it out to say that you are going to lose. There is no point in fighting it. You are going to lose no matter how hard you fight it and no matter how many articles you write to protest it. You’re going to lose, and there is no sense stressing yourself out about it. It has seen fit to God to turn things over to the enemy. We cannot comprehend these things, only the Father understands why. I know I think I understand some reasons why, but only He knows why. The time when Christians could go around and talk about their faith openly and practice their religion openly and expect others to adhere to it is over, Ms. Miller. Now that is just simply the new reality. I am a Christian and I am telling you that. We have to accept that, because we are going to get no redress from the government in the years ahead. We are a minority and we have to accept the fact that we are going to be a persecuted minority in the future. The only way we are going to survive is not to be defensive, but rather to revert to the ways of the early Christians and be a community of love: love for all people. That means no longer trying to demonize people like that man in your office who wrongfully and sinfully chooses to dress like a woman because he is confused, but to just look at him and realize that he is so depraved and so lost and on the way to hell that in your heart you feel nothing but love for him and no judgement. That, in my humble opinion, is what the Lord is calling us Christians to do. You may disagree with me and tear what I am saying completely to pieces. Feel free. But I appreciate you reading and taking the time to respond. God bless and take care.

        • WXRGina

          Eddie, I’m not in Texas. Regardless, just because the battle seems hopeless in no way means we should ever stop fighting and speaking for Truth. Because more people did not speak out forcefully against this diabolical homosexual movement many years ago, we find ourselves in this disadvantaged position today.

          I’m not condemning to Hell the guy at work, because that’s between him and the Lord. The guy is pitiable, but what he is doing to his coworkers is dead wrong, and I am speaking against it.

          Eddie, I apologize for telling you to “take a hike,” because in your first comment I misread hostility, which I’m so very used to encountering, and you don’t appear now to be hostile at all.

        • vorpal

          It must be so difficult for you to be in the 82% minority of American Christians indeed.

      • vorpal

        Gina, I’m confused. You said: “People keeping their mouths shut and giving place to mentally and spiritually disordered people who are aggressively pushing this freedom-robbing agenda are why we stand in this position today.”

        I thought you were on the side of the far-right Christians?

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  • Christian cause their own suff

    I am so sick and tired of reading article after article about homofascism and how Christians are falling victim to it.

    If
    you live by an ideology which teaches you to turn the other cheek and
    love your enemies, why have the gall to complain about it when they verbally and even physically abuse you?

    Either put up and shut up, or grow a pair, get militant and fight back.

    Otherwise,
    you’re going to end up in handcuffs and locked up for your own passivity and foolishness….not because of persecution.

    And
    enough with the hypocrisy about non-militant resistance. Tell that to
    Christian soldiers killing strangers in foreign lands instead of
    defending their fellow believers at home. If it wasn’t for Christian
    passivity, gay “rights” wouldn’t exist. Matt Barber passed up his
    boxing talents to write articles and give speeches. Now gay activists
    are bullying the living day lights out of him to.

    • vorpal

      Given that a substantial number of Christians actively support acceptance of gay people and same-sex marriage, I think you are mistaken.

      Christians are largely anything but passive with respect to LGBT rights, but generally, those in opposition are so mired in hyperbole that they lose credibility, repel anyone who is slightly more moderate, and actively damage their cause. Thus, by extension, they likely end up benefitting the struggle for LGBT rights even more than LGBT activists do.

  • Progressive Patriot

    Hopefully, the Great State of Mississippi will soon join the others in the nation in offering equal rights under the law for legally married same-sex couples. As Windsor showed last summer, there is no compelling governmental interest to treat legally married same-sex couples differently. It is animus, plain and simple.

    • Jimmy

      You are no patriot.

      • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

        Patriots believe in freedom for all.

        • Jimmy

          No they believe in the constitution.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Well that’s good because the arguments that support marriage equality are based on the Constitution.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            They are? Where? What?

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            In the last few months, there have been more than a dozen rulings by Federal Circuit Court judges in favor of marriage equality all citing the 10th and 14th amendments of the Constitution. Why not google up a few of the rulings and read for yourself. You’ll be better prepared when the next marriage equality favorable SCOTUS ruling comes around.

            By the way, before you call them activist judges, know that a majority were installed by Republican Presidents Reagan, Bush 1 and Bush 2. Enjoy!

          • Matthew T. Mason

            I find that hard to believe, they cited the 10th Amendment. Obviously you have never read the Constitution, or you would know just exactly what the 10th Amendment says. You see, if these judges were in fact citing it, they would be saying marriage is a states’ rights issue.

            As for the 14th Amendment, I have heard the reasoning given, but the fact of the matter is, the amendment doesn’t mention sex (as in sexual behavior), which is why such reasoning is faulty at the very least.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            “I find that hard to believe…”

            Well get googling, then. The rulings are public information and you’ll see several common threads in the judges decisions.

            You can hide under a rock all you want believing the drivel that Ray is posting, but that will not change the fact that there will be more than 25 states with marriage equality by this time next year.

            Seeketh the truth and ye shall find it.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            No need to Google anything. Your citing the Tenth Amendment shows ignorance of the Constitution. Their citing of the 14th Amendment when sexual behavior is not mentioned shows a willingness to go outside the Constitution and into the creation of law, which is not permitted by the same document. Separation of powers and all that.

            You really need to actually read the Constitution.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Actually 10th amendment is a question and the answer has been consistent in Federal Circuit Court. States have the right under the 10th amendment to make their own laws, however they must pass Constitutional muster. Since June 26, 2013, 19 Federal Judges have ruled that the laws enacted by individual states to ban gay marriage violate the Constitution. Therefore, the 10th Amendment has been central to these cases. But hey, I guess I need to read the Constitution and all…

      • Progressive Patriot

        Well, thanks for the input. I will, however, respectfully disagree. There are many who love this nation deeply and have served her honorably who find this whole reprehensible marginalization of a swath of our citizenry based on religious pretext to be the height of tyranny and antithetical to the founding of our nation which was EXPRESSLY based on religious pluralism. There is NO religious test for public office — it is written right in the Constitution itself.

        Treating tax-paying LGBT citizens differently under the law with regard to their same-sex marriage is shameful and unpatriotic. The tyranny of the majority must be balanced by the inherent rights of the individual. Every time ! No true patriot could think otherwise.

        • Jimmy

          LGBT are terrorists period!Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed by God Jehovah because of homosexuality.

          • Progressive Patriot

            Quite the interesting perspective. There are currently gay and lesbian soldiers serving on active duty defending the nation’s freedom. Openly serving. Hardly the act of a terrorist.

            Members of the LGBT community are firefighters, police officers, paramedics, emergency doctors, pilots, bankers, engineers, and every strata of society. As tax-paying citizens, they are subject to equal protection under the law.

            Just saying.

          • Jimmy

            Homosexuality is a perversion!PERIOD!

          • Progressive Patriot

            Well, again, that perspective may be true for those coming from a religious framework. Remember, not all Americans are Christians, religious, or put any weight into commentary from books of holy writ.

            What about secular humanists or atheists or others who do not hold the LGBT community in reproach and are supportive of gay rights and marriage equality ? Their input is just as valid as those who consider it as you describe.

            Finding common ground is the most reasonable path forward for all, believers and not.

    • thisoldspouse

      There is no “equal right” to redefine reality.

      • Progressive Patriot

        Well, there is a right to be treated equally under the law. If someone is legally married to another person of the same gender, then the law should treat them equally. “Government” as an entity both of straight and LGBT persons has no compelling interest to disfavor one class of citizens over another. Bottom line.

        • thisoldspouse

          Homosexuals already ARE treated equally under the law. They can marry anyone – ANYONE – that everyone else is allowed to marry. How is that not equal?

          A federal judge ruling over a marriage counterfeiting case in Nevada put it succinctly. A homosexual man is not only held to the same equal standard of marriage qualification as anyone else, he may marry the exact same person as any other man, given willingness.

          • Progressive Patriot

            I think, perhaps, the lovely tongue-in-cheek nature of that federal judge misses the point entirely. In a number of states and the District, it is perfectly legal to marry a person of the same gender. That is established law. In three states, the right to marriage equality was approved at the ballot box.

            For those existing locales, the issue is settled law. Moving forward, given the DOMA decision last summer, it will remain to be seen how many additional states recognize marriage equality. There is no compelling governmental interest to invalidate a marriage of two same-sex Ensigns at Annapolis when the Great State of Maryland has already made a definitive statement about such couplings.

            Denying those two active duty O-1’s the right to openly serve as a married couple is the absolute definition of unequal treatment. It should rise to the level of HEIGHTENED SCRUTINY in order for the government to do so.

  • Jose Hernandez

    Homosexuality is nothing but an “UNNATURAL ALLIANCE”

    • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

      Then don’t do anything gay, Jose. Stick to the ladies and you’ll be OK.

      And stop judging others. Jesus wouldn’t approve.

      • Matthew T. Mason

        You don’t even know Jesus so keep your mouth shut.

  • Kyle

    In the past 48 hours, we just witnessed the extent right wing Christian fascists will go to keep LGBT people marginalized. They will starve children and they will deprive impoverished communities of aid and help, just to keep an organization (World Vision) from the simple thing of recognizing their already legal marriages… Y’all have lost all credibility, and yet you have the audibility to call the gays “fascist”? Shameless.

    • gawxxx

      they not only need to be marginalized but exterminated also ,

      • Kyle

        But the gays are the hateful Nazis, right? The cognitive dissonance would be funny if it wasn’t so very, very dangerous.

      • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

        E tu, Hitler?

    • thisoldspouse

      Give us a break with the lying. Homosexualized countries are now threatening to withhold funding to African nations, resulting in exacerbating their hunger and medical problems, if they will not bow to the homosexual altar.

  • CajunPatriot

    Gina, thank you for your report. However, your title should read: “Homofascists Turn Their ‘SAD’(Sexually Aberrant Deviant) Guns on Mississippi.” I hope my strong neighbors to the east have in the intestinal and spiritual fortitude to withstand the sustained onslaught from these reprobates and remain strong on their upholding of traditional family values.

    Your neighbors to the West stand with you in solidarity for your values, and ours. Stay strong and resist all compromise with evil!

    • WXRGina

      Thank you, Cajun!

  • barbaro70

    When this kind of homosexual and homosexualist nonsense takes place, normal people MUST take the opportunity to expose the basis for the homosexual problem that is taking place: Homosexuality and homosexuals are sterile, and that sterility produces a frustration in homosexuals that forces them to attempt to imitate normal people in their intimacy, but instead of producing life, homosexuals produce disease, spread that disease, and then produce early death. God, or evolution if you prefer, designed the genitals to be used in a complementary way, in a mutual way, and the homosexuals, egged on by their political homosexualist masters for their own purposes, commit the perversion of what in normal people is called sex and die in the process.

    • Sudo Nim

      I almost threw my $2000 iMac out the window. Please have consideration for the safety of computers before posting such nonsense.

      • barbaro70

        Mr. Nim: That is ok with us if you throw your $2000 iMac out the window, but then you would have to find a $300 Windows PC to read about homosexuality and homosexuals being sterile, and that sterility leading to frustration, frustration which leads to attempting to imitate the intimacy of normal people and only perverting that intimacy of normal people and instead of producing life, produces and spreads disease, and many suicides and ultimately a shortened life span.

        The reason for that is that mother nature, or God if you prefer, designed the genitals for mutuality and complementarity, not for the brutal and deadly uses that homosexuals put what in normal people are called genitals.

        You don´t want to miss any of that, do you?

        • John

          Your mommy needs to take your computer away little boy.

          • barbaro70

            are you kidding? my mommy is right here next to me on her own computer telling homosexuals and homosexualists on other blogs that they are sterile and that their sterility produces the frustration of knowing they are not normal and attempting to imitate normal people anyway, and instead of producing life, produce and spread disease and early death

            why would she take my computer away from me?

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Because your rhetoric of sterility and disease is based on simple animus towards gays and lesbians and it pays well, right Matt?

            PS: not for much longer

          • barbaro70

            Hey, Mr. Farmer: Our simple animus it not towards homosexuals necessarily, it is towards the cost to the taxpayer of the filth and messes and disease that homosexual produce and spread

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            So you admit animus! Well, why no concern over the cost of obesity? I presented CDC statistics in this thread and the significant $147 billion cost associated with obesity, yet you choose to berate the cost of gay men’s healthcare. Is it more than $147 billion? Has it even cost over decades $147 billion? No, the cost of the AIDS crisis (which the CDC dos not conclude to be a gay disease) has been insignificant in comparison. So, if healthcare cost is your concern, why not go after the obese (not withstanding the proprietor of this blog)?

            Nope, you are all about animus towards gays and lesbians.

          • barbaro70

            Mr. Farmer, repeating: Our simple animus it not towards homosexuals necessarily, it is towards
            the cost to the taxpayer of the filth and messes and disease that
            homosexual produce and spread. We indeed do hate the filth and messes and disease that homosexuals´ perversions produce and spread. Yes, indeed.

            If you find obesity to be a problem, YOU get together with Moochelle Obama and fight obesity. We know what we have to do.

            Don´t waste your time figuring out what we hate–we have that under control. We actually are racists, bigots, haters: We hate people of the fukhed race and Barack Hussein Obama, Moochelle Obama, Valery Jarrett, Eric Holder, Elijah Cummings, John Lewis, Sheila Jackson Lee, Barbara Lee, Charles Bolden-head of NASA looking for mohammedan astronauts to glorify their five minutes of fame in their mud hut villages in the 12th century, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, John Holdren, Kevin Jennings, you know who the fukheds are.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Thanks for confirming that your hate extends beyond gays and lesbians.

          • barbaro70

            yes, Former, be thick headed: our simple animus it not towards homosexuals necessarily, it is towards the cost to the taxpayer of the filth and messes and disease that homosexual
            produce and spread

            we indeed do hate the filth and messes and disease
            that homosexuals´ perversions produce and spread–do not doubt it

            and we also hate people of the fukhed race, Obama and Moochelle being prime exponents of the fukhed race, BUT YOU KNOW WHO THE FUKHEDS ARE

          • John

            zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz………..

          • barbaro70

            yes, John, you are asleep, but not asleep enough to send this post

            we know that you homosexuals and homosexualists are not asleep about the homosexual sterility, the sterility of homosexuality

            we know that you know that your perversions are only a pale attempt to imitate normal people in intimacy, we know that you know that you cannot, not only not imitate normal people in intimacy, but cannot be normal because your perversions are perversions of normalcy

            and then you either commit suicide or your friends´ with what in normal people are called genitals rip up your rear end and kill you

            we know

            and we know that you know

            and we know that you know that we know

            yes indeed

          • vorpal

            What’s a bigger problem, though? Is it:
            1. the homosexual sterility, or
            2. the sterility of homosexuality?
            It’s such a tough choice. Mentor me, barbie!

          • barbaro70

            here it is, vorpie: homosexuality, as a movement, as proselytization, is sterile, it does not produce anything meritorious or living, it is dead

            homosexuals, by their choice, are sterile, they cannot produce life

            so the sterility of homosexuality is the sterility of homosexuals

            and the sterility of homosexuals is the the sterility of homosexuality

            glad you asked

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            “If you find obesity to be a problem, YOU get together with Moochelle Obama and fight obesity…”

            Hoping that the number one client for obesity therapy is Matt Barber, but I digress.

            Keep it classy kids. Resumes out soon, I hope!

          • barbaro70

            hey, former, you are getting punch drunk after all the slapping around that we are giving you, so we might have to move on to another blog where the homosexuals and homosexualists try a little harder to be coherent–NOT that there is any way to refute the basic problem in homosexuality and homosexuals, sterility

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Thanks for providing clarity. Click!

          • barbaro70

            anytime you need help, former, just let us know–we are happy to remind you homosexuals and homosexualists about the sterility of homosexuality and the sterility of homosexuals being the basis for the homosexual problem and the desperate attempts that homosexuals make to appear normal to themselves, to each other, and most of all to normal people, but fail UTTERLY and only end up producing and spreading disease and dying young

            and we are also happy to remind you foolish libs/lefties about Obama and Moochelle being the prime exponents of the fukhed race, along with….well, you know who the fukheds are

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            If only your parents had been sterile, barbaro70.

          • barbaro70

            hey, formie: if our parents had been sterile, there would have been other normal people, and they are joining us every day, who would have understood that it is the homosexual sterility that is the basis for the homosexual problem–the desire to attempt to appear normal to themselves, to their homosexual friends, to everyone causing homosexuals to commit perversions that, instead of producing life, produce and spread disease, and then the homosexuals die 20 years short of the life span of normal people

            you homosexuals and homosexualist whine for special rights but when you are reminded that homosexuality and homosexuals are sterile, that removes any claim to special rights

          • vorpal

            Wow. You are growing up to be a fine young man indeed.

          • barbaro70

            Mr. Vorpal, we don´t need or want admiration from filthy homos.

    • John

      You are a laugh a minute!!! You are posting pure nonsense….LOL

      • barbaro70

        you can laugh all you want, but the real joke is the homosexuals whining for special rights because homosexuality and homosexuals are STERILE–the frustration of not getting what normal people get out of sex drives them to pervert the intimacy of normal people but instead of producing life, produce only disease and then spread it and die about 20 years early. It is obvious to anyone with eyes and common sense that the genitals were designed by Mother Nature, or God if you prefer, to be used in a complementary way, in a mutual way and the perversion of that, meaning the brutality of the homosexual practices, as documented by CDC, produces not life, but death

        oh, yes, homosexuals want to appear normal to themselves, to their multiple partners, to their partners´ rear ends or to their partners´ p3nises, but they are the freaks, the jokes, the laughingstocks–the homosexual whining simply is being laughed at

        • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

          “homosexuals are STERILE…”

          Huh, really? Well how do I explain to my naturally born daughter how she came about? Immaculate conception?

          Open to suggestions.

          • barbaro70

            the girl that you call your daughter isn´t really your daughter

            that girl´s father is a turkey baster

            in other words, what in normal people is called a sex act, intercourse, copulation, was in this case, between a woman and, not a man, but a turkey baster

            you are sterile

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            You do assume much. You know what they say, never assume it make an a… well you get the point.

            It was my sperm into a woman of my choosing. Ready to continue?

          • barbaro70

            oh, well, goodness!

            in that case tell your daughter that her daddy is not a turkey baster, that you actually did what most homosexuals call repulsive and climbed on her mother for a ride but have never repeated that

            on the other hand if you have a ´friend´ who cohabits with you and your daughter, are you telling your daughter that he is her mommy?

            interesting homosexual business

            do you not see why homosexuals are laughed at?

            you try, you must try, you need to try, to imitate normal people so that the low information folks will tolerate you–no, accept you–no. ADMIRE you, but you fail

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            More presumption: you assume, incorrectly, that I am gay and not married for the sixteen years that my lovely wife reminds me of everyday.

            Do you not see why anti-gay firebrands are laughed at, Matt?

          • barbaro70

            recapping

            we said: “homosexuals are sterile”

            you said: “what do I tell my daughter,” implying that you were homosexual

            we said: “tell her that her daddy is a turkey baster”

            you then said that you are normal

            so you better find out what you are so that you can tell your daughter who her daddy is, a turkey baster, a hired stud, an adopted child, or that her mommy is a man, or….

            you don´t want her to be confused like you, do you?

            the homosexual business is hard to follow because of the contortions that homosexuals go through because of their sterility to “have” children–and then of course there are transruottigenders, sexualtransbisexuals, tritranshomos, bitransfrakowitzes, etc, etc, etc, all confused, some dressing differently, some wanting to use female bathrooms and lockers when they have what in normal males are called male genitals, etc, etc, etc

            figure it out but don´t bother letting us know

            but the homosexual whining will stop

          • John

            You must be the comedian for this site…LOL. Your posts are pure entertainment! Where do you get your material?

          • barbaro70

            glad you asked: we get our material from the deviants, the perverts, in a word the homosexuals who are sterile and who try to imitate normal people in their intimacy but instead of producing life, produce only disease, spread it, and then die about 20 years sooner than normal people–AND HOW SMART IS THAT?

            we get our material from confused homosexuals who don´t understand and don´t want to understand that evolution, or God if you prefer, designed the genitals to be used in a complementary way, in a mutual way, not in the brutal, perverted way that homosexuals use what in normal people are called sex organs

            thanks for asking

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Oh, sweety, your comprehension and intellectual skills are severely lacking. Sorry about that.

          • barbaro70

            oh, Former, our comprehension and intellectual skills may be severely lacking, and you do not have to apologize for it–you have no standing to do that, but we are not like the sterile homosexuals who stick what in normal people are called penises up their buddies´ rear ends as a way of attempting to imitate normal people in their intimacy, or allow their buddies to stick what in normal people are called penises up their rear ends as a way of attempting to appear normal to yourselves, to your buddies´ rear ends and penises, and then die early either from disease or suicide as a result–THAT IS NOT TOO SMART, IS IT?

            we know very well how to evaluate our comprehension and intellectual skills and cannot worry about what homosexuals, who commit the most absurd, ridiculous, perverted, deviant acts in the name of their sterile homosexuality, think whether about comprehension and intellectual skills

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            I find your fixation on gay sex rather amusing. Have you considered speaking to a professional about your unnatural obsession with all things gay? It’s really not normal for a straight guy to be thinking about gay sex day and night, but there you are. Penis on your mind.

            Get help, seriously.

          • barbaro70

            Mr. Former: Once more, DON´T FLATTER YOURSELF, because we don´t have a fixation on homosexuals and their perversions, which can´t be called sex because sex is what normal people do. BUT WE ARE, WE CERTAINLY ARE, FIXATED ON THE DISEASE–THAT´S THE DISEASE, GOT IT?–THAT THE STERILITY OF HOMOSEXUALITY AND HOMOSEXUALS PRODUCE AND SPREAD, THE FILTH AND MESSES AND COST TO TAXPAYERS THAT HOMOSEXUALS PRODUCE, AND THEN THE NEVER ENDING WHINING FOR SPECIAL RIGHTS, AS IF THEIR PERVERSIONS AND DEVIANCIES MERIT SPECIAL RIGHTS.

            So here it is again: Our obsession is not “with all things [homosexual, because there is nothing gay or happy about homosexuality and homosexuals and the diseases they produce and spread]. Rather our obsession is with the disease, the sickness, the messes, the filth, that the sterility of homosexuality and homosexuals produce. Don´t flatter yourself that we are obsessed with your suicidal deviancies and perversions.

            Yes, “It´s really not normal for [normal people] to be thinking about [homosexual perversions, sickness, suicides] day and night…” and we don´t, but we do think and work day and night to fix the homosexual problem that the sterile homosexuals and their homosexuality are causing.

          • barbaro70

            We find your fixation on defending the indefensible, the sterility of homosexuality and homosexuals rather pathetic. Have you considered speaking with a professional who specializes in the perverions of homosexuals which produce and spread disease about your unnatural obsession with defending the indefensible, the sterility of homosexuality and homosexuals? It´s really not normal for a homosexual to be thinking about homosexual perversions day and night, but there you are. Penis on your mind.

            Get help, seriously.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Dear barbaro70, I’m not going to spend much more time with you because, frankly, you proven yourself to be worthless trash. But I will provide you with this parting thought:

            Sterility is a physiological condition, affecting both men and women, which prevents the biological process of reproduction from occurring. In the case of males, it’s the inability to produce sperm. In the case of women, the inability to produce eggs. Neither gays nor lesbian are inherently physiologically sterile. Your incorrect use is simply an ineffective attempt to create a new pejorative.

            Mules are physiologically sterile. You are simply a jack ass.

          • barbaro70

            Dear Former, you are not going to spend much more time with us because YOU CANNOT REFUTE THAT THE BASIS FOR THE HOMOSEXUAL PROBLEM IS THE STERILITY OF HOMOSEXUALITY AND HOMOSEXUALS.

            The sterility of “male” homosexuals comes, not from a physiological condition, but because homosexuals stupidly stick what in normal people are called genitals in other homosexuals´ rear ends. Or in the case of “female” homosexuals their sterility comes from the lack of complementarity, not from a physiological condition. Not at all.

            If you have a problem with the sterility of mules, then YOU FIGHT THAT BATTLE, while we continue to fight the homosexual problem.

            And we are glad that you are not going to spend much more time with us, because we have slapped you around quite enough, enough so you should have, and probably have actually, learned about the homosexual problem, we have spent enough time indulging your masochism.

          • barbaro70

            hey formie: baloney, you are not going to spend much more time with us because, frankly, you have proven yourself incompetent in discussing homosexual sterility as the basis for the homosexual whining, the homosexual production and spreading of homosexual diseases

            homosexuals are sterile because they confuse their buddies´ anuses as vaginas–Phil Robertson was right!

            if you consider the mules being physiologically sterile a problem go ahead and work on that

            we continue to work on the homosexual problem

          • vorpal

            I certainly hope that that no-good turkey baster is paying child support.

          • barbaro70

            vorpie, it sounds like you are jealous of the turkey baster because it can do what you can´t

            but the subject is not your jealously of the turkey baster, but rather the pathetic homosexual sterility that drives homsexuals to desperation to the point of attempting to imitate normal folks´ intimacy but failing utterly and instead of producing life, produce death, either by the filthy diseases you produce and spread or by suicide, and in the meantime whine for special rights

            that is the basis of the homosexual problem and when normal folks, including those who don´t want to hurt anyone´s feelings, are completely conscious of this perversion that forms the basis of homosexual living, then we will end the homosexual problem

          • vorpal

            First you have to gain enough experience points to reach level 50 so that you can defeat the homosexualist masters.

          • barbaro70

            Your desperation is producing incoherence, but then it is because your brains have been scramble through your love of anal penetration, as you said, “if it´s done the right way.”

            It´s not easy to respond to incoherence. We have to move on to more profitable sites. Get your masochism satisfied by your buddies´ rear ends.

          • vorpal

            You said: “your brains have been scramble through your love of anal penetration”

            I think you meant: “your penetration into (brutal) anal lovemaking” as we agreed upon.

          • barbaro70

            vorpie, go away–your homosexuality is just your infantile way of attempting to get in the way of folks having an intelligent post about the homosexual problem

            ain´t no love in the filthy homosexual perversions

            go get your masochism fix somewhere else

            see Perry´s post

          • vorpal

            So far, I’d say about 1% of the posts I’ve seen on here have had anything approaching the maturity of a 12 year old.

          • barbaro70

            vorpie, the subject is homosexual sterility, the inability of homosexuals to reproduce, the frustration that follows, the despair, depression, shame of knowing that homosexuals are not like normal people, no matter how hard homosexuals try

        • John

          HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

          • barbaro70

            of course, your attempt to laugh is hollow, we know that you homosexuals know that your sterility frustrates you to the point of attempting to imitate normal people in their intimacy and fail totally, and instead of producing life produce death

            we know that the homosexual perversion of what in normal people is called sex, drives you to a high degree of frustration and very often to suicide

            the CDC has all of the information on the sterility of homosexuals and homosexuality

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Hollow? Now that IS funny!

          • barbaro70

            Yes, Mr. Farmer, hollow. The forced attempt at laughter is hollow. The CDC has extensive information on most homosexuals going through life depressed, some–a great number, committing suicide.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            I’m just enjoying creating an internet record of how ridiculous the intellectual and political positions are of the followers of Matt Barber.

            PS: I have screen shots.

          • barbaro70

            well, Former, you just enjoy the heck out of your li´l ol´hobby there, and you can stick the screen shots up your rear end where your buddy puts his p3nis hoping to find ovaries

          • barbaro70

            how ridiculous is it for homosexuals, in their sterility, to attempt to imitate normal people in their intimacy and instead of producing life only produce and spread disease?

            how ridiculous is it for homosexuals to stick what in normal people are called sex organs in another homosexual´s rear end?

            how ridiculous is it for homosexuals to consider anal penetration–not anal intercourse, because the word intercourse implies mutuality–acceptable and demand admiration for it as a “new” way to use something, like using a lawn mower to cut a person´s hair?

            in a word, how ridiculous is it for homosexuals to live, if it can be called that, in such a way that they shorten the homosexual life span by 20 years?

            and there are many, many, many more how ridiculous is its about what homosexuals do, AND THEN THEY WHINE FOR SPECIAL RIGHTS

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Your so-called “statistics” about homosexuals have been debunked as false SO MANY times, that your attempting to perpetuate those bigoted viewpoints shows just how truly ignorant you really are. How ridiculous is it that you actually believe the crap you do. But go right ahead, live a life of delusion. Just live the rest of us out of it.

            PS: You know they discovered the Earth is round, right?

          • barbaro70

            hey, former: our statistics are solid and are based on the sterility of homosexuality and homosexuals, which in turn force homosexuals to commit perversions of what in normal people is called sex in an attempt to appear normal to themselves, and to their homosexual friends

            you homosexuals and homosexualists just dont want to understand that perversions produce, instead of life, death, and spread those diseases, and then either commit suicide or die early from their diseases

            just ask DOCTOR H. Scott Hitt, M.D., Bill Clinton´s AIDS advisor–how ironic is that?, dead at around 50 from “complications in the anal/rectal area” oh, no, you can´t ask him, he´s dead well then, ask Dr. Marshall Madsden, PhD, specialist in homosexual perversions at Harvard–oh? he´s dead too? my, my well then ask his dear, dear friend, Dr. Hunter Kirk, PhD in homosexual something or other–oh, no! he´s dead too? so young, both of them

            seems like the homosexual icons are dropping like flies, maybe it´s a flu epidemic, or they get lost in the inner cities and are victims of the knockout game, or maybe they had a bad case of indigestion, or…. what is it that is killing these homosexual icons, other than the suicide, of course

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Gonna nominate you for a Darwin Award, barbaro70. You’re certainly a strong candidate to win one.

          • barbaro70

            yes, do that Former, and maybe that will take up your time enough so that you do not post irrelevant information, meaningless information, information that does not, cannot, refute the basis for the homosexual whining, the homosexual frustration: THE HOMOSEXUAL STERILITY

            how terrible it is for homosexuals to know that their perversion of what in normal people is called sex produces the frustration, the desperation that produces and spreads disease, that shortens their lives by about 20 years, either by the homosexual diseases or by suicide–not too smart of those homosexuals

          • vorpal

            Babs, I thought we agreed on the term ANAL LOVEMAKING.

          • barbaro70

            Mr. Vorpal, your brains are scrambled from your love for “rolling in other people´s feces,” as you put it, and from the anal pentration you expressed admiration for, “if it is done right.” You are wrong about us agreeing with filthy homosexuals about anything, much less your brutal practice of anal penetration. Lovemaking is what normal people do, and homos are not normal. Got it?

          • vorpal

            Let’s compromise: brutal anal lovemaking, then.

          • barbaro70

            It´s just no fun slapping you around any more.

          • vorpal

            My goal – after our initial chatting – was just to waste your time, and given the thousands and thousands of words I pulled out of you with just a handful after awhile, I’d say Mission Accomplished!

          • barbaro70

            YOU would say Mission Accomplished, but you would be wrong, just as you are wrong in your homosexual perversions of, as you said you enjoyed, “rolling in your buddies´///note the plural/// feces,” and anal penetration, “if it is done right.” Normal folks would see that you were not able, in the least, to counter the point that the sterility of homosexuality and of homosexuals is the basis for the homosexual problem.

            There is a point, however, when it is no fun any more, slapping you around, it´s just too, TOO, easy.

            You are just a pathetic homosexual, flailing, and a homosexual fool at that–and everyone here, except the frothing at the mouth secularist, humanist lib/lefty homosexualists know that.

          • vorpal

            I love you, Barbaro. Let me know when you actually start trying in any meaningful way to address the HOMOSEXUAL PROBLEM of the HOMOSEXUAL STERILITY and STERILITY OF HOMOSEXUALS so I can point and laugh at your utter failure.

          • barbaro70

            but you will not be able to laugh, because we are more and more successful successively every day–you will choke on your rage, that is, unless you commit suicide first or die from your love of “rolling in someone else´s feces,” as you so eloquently told us, or from your rear end being ripped up by your buddies´ pleasing you with your love of anal penetration, “if it´s done right,” as you so eloquently confessed

            of course, we are not, definitely not, working on solving homosexual sterility, because there is only one way to fix that, and that is through the homosexual stopping choosing relations with other perverts

            go away, child., go roll in someone else feces, go get your masochistic fix of anal penetration, it´s just no fun slapping a fool like you around

          • vorpal

            And yet you continue to “slap me around” while ultimately failing to make any progress in the “homosexual problem” all the while. The homosexualist masters shall forever reign supreme!

          • barbaro70

            Oh, no, Mr. Vorpal, we are indeed making progress in fixing the homosexual problem. You simply choose to swallow what your homosexualist masters tell you, but normal people, the 99%, are never going to let those like you who, as you declared, “love to roll in your buddies´ feces,” and love anal penetration, “as long as it is done right,” and who knows what other perversions of a noble human activity, tell us how institutions must be reshaped to suit your perversions.

        • http://www.buellreview.com/ D Buell

          Special rights Barbaro70? Um yeah, those must be the rights of the Church to pay no taxes while they propagandize issues with made up facts while buying and influencing political elections so they can decide to vote on Who actually gets rights in violation of constitutional law……………………………………..

          • barbaro70

            Mr Buell: If you find the rights of the Church to pay no taxes while they propagandize issues with made up facts while buying and influencing political electrions so they can decide to vote on who actually get rights in violation of constitutional law, why then YOU FIGHT THAT BATTLE. We continue to work, and work HARD, to fix the homosexual problem, the problem based on the homosexual sterility and the sterility of homosexuality.

          • http://www.buellreview.com/ D Buell

            Barbaro70, Science has proven that Being gay is a born into condition that is MINIMALLY 40% genetic! And Gay people are the children of straight people, so maybe to fix the problems we should be selectively breeding and sterilizing those STRAIGHT people with defective gene pools! how about it? You know straight people with Gay kids?

          • barbaro70

            Mr Buell, science has not proved anything, that is ANYTHING, that indicates that there is any, that is ANY, genetic basis for homosexuals to, as a result of their sterility and in a pathetic attempt to appear normal to themselves, to each other, to everyone, stick what in normal people are called genitals into the anus, the extreme of the digestive system which is intended by evolution and by God, or by evolution if you prefer. to eliminate feces from the organism.

            Oh, yes, homosexuals and homosexualists claim that it is so chic, so modern, so avant-garde, so progressive, so clever, to use what in normal people are called genitals for such new, unusual purposes, but that, instead of succeeding at imitating normal people in their intimacy and producing life, produces and spreads disease and early death.

            As to homosexuals being the children of normal people, of course, that is nothing more than the if-it-feels-good-do-it, moral relativism culture that the libs/lefties have always wanted, but which is not going to last much longer. When normal people, nice, kind folks who don´t want to hurt anyone´s feelings, are constantly reminded that the homosexual problem is caused by the sterility of homosexuality and of those homosexuals, then they will understand that the homosexual whining for special rights is founded on perversions.

          • http://www.buellreview.com/ D Buell

            Why not just round up people you hate and stone them to death? Is that not part of your Bible?

          • barbaro70

            Mr. Buell, you have not been paying attention: We do not use the Bible for any of our discussions. We refer to common sense, which is, and eyes, both of which indicate that homosexuals and homosexuality are sterile, and in order to attempt to appear normal, but fail totally, homosexuals commit perversions of what in normal people is called sex, and then instead of producing life, produce and spread disease and early death.

            As to rounding up people we hate, we don´t hate anyone, but we do hate, that is HATE, the homosexual perversions which produce and spread disease which taxpayers have to pay to clean up.

  • Dannyboy

    What does the homosexual movement think of multiple partner marriage? They favor it, but won’t admit it. They have no reason to oppose it. Once they say that “love” is the only criterion for marriage, then you have approved any and every type of “marriage” relationship.
    If a person is “born” gay, how do homosexuals explain bisexuality?

  • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

    The national government will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality. Today Christians stand at the head of our country. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit. We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press……in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of LIBERAL excess during the past few years.

    • Russell Sayce

      Hmmm……Is that why you’re a former representative?

      • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

        Oops forgot to include the citation…

        Written by Adolph Hitler. You can read the entire text in “The Speeches of Adolph Hitler”, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872

        Surprised it got an up vote?

        • Russell Sayce

          Someone probably thought it said something about burning liberals and gave it a thumbs up…..It’s a rough crowd : )

        • Matthew T. Mason

          Trouble was, Hitler wasn’t a Christian. He was a Pagan. And none of this is relevant, just another example of Godwin’s law.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Actually, I never stated he was a Christian, however google (again, education) will tell you whether or not he was, he played the Pope and other Christian institutions like a harp. Godwin’s law and all…

            PS: I wonder who it was that added the swastika to the gay flag in the picture that accompanies this article. Feeling stupid yet?

          • Matthew T. Mason

            PS Who cares?

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Well you’re the one that brought up Hitler not being a big deal. I assume it’s because of the swastika on the photo that accompanied this blog post.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            “Well you’re the one that brought up Hitler not being a big deal.”

            Uh, no, fool. Obviously you have no idea what Godwin’s law is: In any debate, someone, sooner or later, will bring up the Nazis.

            You didn’t bring up just any Nazi. You cited Hitler himself.

            You really should never take a knife to a gun fight. *smh*

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Matthew, you continue to embarrass yourself. You’re the one who brought up Godwin’s law so let’s recap the definition.

            From Wikipedia:

            “Godwin’s law (or Godwin’s Rule of Nazi Analogies)[1][2] is an Internet adage asserting that “As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1″ [2][3]—​ that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism.

            Promulgated by American attorney and author Mike Godwin in 1990,[2] Godwin’s Law originally referred, specifically, to Usenet newsgroup discussions,[4] it is now applied to any threaded online discussion, such as Internet forums, chat rooms and blog comment threads, as well as to speeches, articles and other rhetoric.[5][6]”

            So I ask? Who put the swastika on the picture of the gay flag associated with this blog post? Looks like BARBWIRE started the conversation at the bottom of the intellectual food chain.

            Hope you enjoy bottom feeding.

          • Matthew T. Mason

            And the definition you gave is merely a longer version of what I gave in a nutshell. Basically you repeated what I just said.

            I do not care who put the swastika on the flag. You mentioned it. You mentioned Hitler. And now you are trying to act as if you are intellectually superior?

            Gina’s right. You are just a HRC troll. Shut up and go away.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

            Who the hell is Gina? I have no affiliation with HRC. I just happen to find your rhetoric appalling. I suppose it would be easier to call my engagement political, but let me assure I’m not affiliated with any group.

            Funny your assumption is that I am a political opponent. You would never consider that there are regular folks that consider your views repellent?

            Welcome to the real world.

          • http://www.buellreview.com/ D Buell

            Bravo!

  • James Maxwell

    If Rump Rangers and Carpet Munchers want to live an cavort in sin that is their

    right in our nation, but that doesn’t make it a marriage nor does it mean that I

    have to accept it. I Marriage is and always will be between a Man an a Woman.
    Anything else is a corruption of nature and as non breeding species they will

    dies out of old age or unknown diseases. Their only hope of survival is to

    sway other to also become corrupt.

    • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

      “Rump Rangers and Carpet Munchers”

      Classy, James Maxwell, very classy.

      • James Maxwell

        I just call you as I see you. If it offends you then that is your
        problem. perhaps you will pull your head out your friends nether regions and wonder what happened.

        • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/nancy-elliott-anti-gay-ne_n_460544.html Former Representative Elliott

          I weep for your children who will have to explain and make excused about you to your grandchildren.

          • James Maxwell

            Sadly for such as your “former” self my children, grand children and great grand children are doing fin and getting
            a solid education and training in Firearms, fishing, gardening
            and how to be Men and Women who can take pride in
            themselves and their nation. Those such as your
            self can crawl back in to the sewer and wonder why life
            was so “UNFAIR” to your mental condition. But don’t
            worry, your daddy o’socialsit will find a place for you
            on his plantation.

  • Luvikas Maybe Ksc

    I challenge anyone. Anyone on this or any other ‘Christian’ blog/news page to a debate. My goal? Disproving your Bible. I will melt you like a snowflake in your imaginary Hell. Let’s do this. I know more about your book of crap than most people who call themselves Christian ever will and I will literally challenge ANY of you to an open debate via ANY forum of your choosing. Have a radio show? Invite me on. A television show? Sure, let me iron my suit. I don’t care if you are the most learned apologist on the planet. I will SMASH your religion into pieces before your very eyes. Let’s go. -Lucas Paul Lawhead, Howell, MI

    • Jeff Allen

      People have made the same challenge/claim for centuries, and you guys can ONLY win when you:
      1. Throw out a barrage of false arguments, then… (“throw enough mud, and hope something sticks”)
      2. There is never enough time to answer, let alone remember, all of the lies in a timed debate…
      3. And nobody can have a ready answer memorized for all of the thousands of falsehoods or misunderstandings that might be thrown at them. It’s easy to take mindless, overly-emotional “sound bite” pot shots, but many of the answers actually require more logical, detailed analysis. (that could be true for either side of any debate). (Only a multi-part debate would be truly enlightening. Each part having 4 or 5 specific biblical passages decided on beforehand. This way each side would have the time to marshal their best responses. Then, each participant would meet in a well-prepared debate. NO gotcha moments, rhetorical tricks, and devious deflections…or certainly a lot less of this kind of thing. And any off-topic comments would need to be banned from the current debate — they could be tabled for a future round. Two moderators (one chosen by each side) would need to enforce this rule, since liberals typically prefer to break rules, anything is permissible for the godless.)

      I have never heard an anti-Bible argument that holds any water. Sure, I’ve heard plenty of your deceptions, but then I do a little historical research or I look at the biblical bigger picture, and immediately your fallacies are revealed. For example, here’s a simple one: Mark 10:46 says that Jesus was LEAVING Jericho when He healed Blind Bartimaeus, but Luke 18:35 states that Jesus was ENTERING Jericho when this miracle occurred. A little historical study reveals that this is not a contradiction at all. There was actually a new and an old city of Jericho at the time. So, Jesus was leaving one and entering the other. So, agreed upon passages would guarantee your defeat. (Admittedly, there will be Christian answers that you don’t like or accept. This would include topics such as the wrath of God because people like you fail to understand the seriousness of sin. But this kind of debate would prove that there are no contradictions and that logical answers do exist for all of your lies.)

      I will admit that you are accurate in only one way: Many Christians do not know their Bible as well as they should. But that’s not me. I’ve read it 20 times, once a year since 1994. And you, and every one like you, are just wild-eyed God haters. PERIOD!

    • thisoldspouse

      Your goal has already been attempted, crashed and burned, many years ago. You’re little late to the game. Feeling a little embarrassed now?

  • Luvikas Maybe Ksc

    How do people like this not realize that they are literally the laughingstock of the thinking world? The only people you impress with your hatred are other members of your increasingly whacked out cult. I would like to offer an open challenge to any “Christian” on any blog, forum, radio station, television show or news website. My purpose? Discrediting your Bible and everything you believe in. It becomes increasingly obvious that very few “Christians” are at all familiar with their own holy text. The only prop I will bring to said debate is a copy of YOUR Bible and my knowledge thereof. I will melt you like a snowflake in your own imaginary Hell. -Lucas Paul Lawhead, Howell, MI (Get in touch, I look forward to making you look even more foolish than you make yourselves look. Please, please, please bring it on. As public a venue as is possible would be preferred.)

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